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    Is she singing about an LIE? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Gamma Anthem


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    Not sure if this couple are ILI and SEE or not...

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    SEE heart break

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    From the deep recesses of the heavy, intense sounds of Gamma Fi-Te. They’re direct duals, SEE-ILI who found each other based on their goal of wanting to make music that captures how they felt within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolita View Post
    From the deep recesses of the heavy, intense sounds of Gamma Fi-Te. They’re direct duals, SEE-ILI who found each other based on their goal of wanting to make music that captures how they felt within.

    beach house always seemed like an IEI band to me. very dreamy and atmospheric.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    beach house always seemed like an IEI band to me. very dreamy and atmospheric.
    I think that’s the mistake but the reasoning behind the atmosphere is due to Fi which Victoria brings out from her creative Fi. Even the reasoning is Gamma over Beta. There is no desire to influence others over expressing personal values.

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    SEE to ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    SEE fed up with xLIs passivity

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    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepsis View Post
    I actually like that song as a devout Catholic, but for rather ironic reasons. See, while I do love the likes of Lemmy and Nietzche, they do sadly fall a bit short. I wholeheartedly agree with Nietzche's injunction that we ought to "say yes to life" but in rejecting God he became ultimately incapable of being able to do so. Lemmy, for all his musical talent and piercing insights, was in much the same boat but from the opposed angle being an SF type over an NT type.

    It actually confirms my faith upon the ultimate analysis. Had Lemmy and his ilk actually came to an honest priest (like, say, Fulton Sheen for instance) and made an honest inquiry in good faith they likely would have come to the conclusions I have upon hearing their response.

    Indeed, most who claim "God is on their side" are mistaking the lord above for the lord below. I do agree with the line "let right or wrong alone decide". There is indeed an objective standard. There is an absolute and objective "right" along with an absolute and objective "wrong" as it were. It is also, funnily enough, laid out plainly and clearly in the Catechism, the writings of the Doctors of the Church, and the encyclicals of the Popes.

    Too bad the archbishop I mentioned died long before this song was made but one of my favorite bands Stryper named an album and its title track in a line he delivered in an audio format that cut to my very soul. Sheen wasn't wrong when he cried out with adamant certainty and righteous fury:


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    This music video has a mixture of gamma/beta concepts:
    GD part: LIE
    Taeyoung part: EIE
    Top part: too weird to type
    Daesung part: IEI
    Seungri part: gothic IEI?
    last part: LIE

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    ILI music. Sparing Se and huge space for Ni. Calming and eerie.


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    ILI or ESI I leave it to you all to decide. If you forced either of those types into a position of leadership I can tell you this. I will not demand another charge first. If anyone must charge, it must be me. and produce similar forecasts.

    That man ate damage so that his subordinates would not. If you cannot salute such a figure on an absolutely primal and tearful level you ain't a gamma type. If you cannot tear off a finger to save a most brave and deserving soldier under your command you ain't a Gamma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    I greatly enjoyed the song! Please send me more! I'll have to read more about Sir Adrian to tell if he was an ILI or ESI.

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    Speaks to me as an ILI singing about a SEE

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    The entire genre From Soft pioneered is quite Gamma as is the character this song is about....

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    Mospeada. I consider this anime is Gamma, since the main character look like LIE, with his dead girl friend Fi lead (EII?), and most of the side characters are Gamma (I count 3 SEE and 1 ESI in the main team lol)

    (The guys in the video image are SEE)



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    Look like ESI Se



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    ESI-LIE song


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    LIE/Fi dual-seeking

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