The16types Consensus: Famous People Types List

[qaz00]

I decided to make this list because the other ones I found are outdated, incomplete, their authors used bad or unknown methodology and are generally a bad representation of typings on the forum.

The list consists of people who are typed with >50% convergence, I also took into account how the other typings are distributed (for example when a person is typed 50% one type and the rest of votes are spread equally on other types it's a more certain typing than for a person who has 60% votes on one type and 40% on other type).
I checked all Famous People threads to find these with at least 3 typings on one type and the required convergence, then I searched for typings in other parts of forum to confirm the typing (only used Google search to save time, maybe one day I'll recheck it with forum search to improve accuracy). I also checked the already existing lists. I slightly reduced requirements for people who have a rare type for their gender with less examples on the list.

I tried to estimate the value of each vote, how much it should influence the score, some things I considered are:
- typings by users who explain how they came to a conclusion are more valuable than these who just write a type
- typings based on information about person are better than VI-only ones
- votes in polls are usually less thought-out than typings in discussions
- typings from users who go against consensus very often or show other signs that they're bad at socionics are less important, in most extreme cases even ignored

I excluded people who are difficult to type properly because of insufficient information about them, mostly random youtubers and historical figures (I have a requirement that a photo of the person must be available).

Less certain examples on the list are marked by numbers:
(1) - <5 typings
(2) - people who barely made it to the list


Alpha

ILE
David Deutsch
Weird Al Yankovic
Jon Stewart
Andy Samberg
Douglas Adams
John Maynard Keynes
Albert Einstein
Bill Maher
John Kenneth Galbraith (1)
A. J. Jacobs (1)
Paul Bettany (1)
Julius Sumner Miller (1)
Hans Zimmer (1)
Boris Johnson (2)
Nikola Tesla (2)
Bertrand Russell (2)
Edward Norton (2)
Nicolas Cage (2)
John Cleese (2)

Tina Fey
Keri Russell (1)
Ellen Page (2)
Jessie J (2)


SEI
Luciano Pavarotti
Josh Groban
Bob Ross
Mitch Hedberg
John Candy
Usher (1)
Daddy Yankee (1)
J. Cole (1)
Harmony Korine (1)
Beck Hansen (2)
Adam Sandler (2)

Hilary Duff
Ashlynn Brooke
Faye Wong
Alizee
Björk
Alyson Hannigan
Scout Niblett (1)
Lenka Kripac (1)
Dakota Johnson (1)
Sofia Coppola (1)


ESE
Mel Brooks
George Benson
Seth Rogen
Ron White
Brian Blessed
Bill Cosby
Michael Palin
Robin Williams
Jackie Chan
Stan Lee
Sam Johnson (Congressman) (1)
Nathan Fillion (1)
Mandy Patinkin (1)
Tom Cruise (2)

Betty White
Amy Sedaris
Mariah Carey
Hayden Panettiere
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall (1)
Heidi Klum (2)
Rachael Ray (2)
Amanda Bynes (2)
Salma Hayek (2)
Christina Hendricks (2)


LII
J. Robert Oppenheimer
Steve Albini
Noam Chomsky
Paul Dirac
Andrew Wiles (1)
Sven-Göran Eriksson (1)
Andrew Bird (1)
Vincent Gallo (1)
Robert Fripp (1)
Ted Kaczynski (2)
David Byrne (2)
Larry King (2)
Al Gore (2)

Ann Ward (1)
Natalia Poklonskaya (1)
Anastasia Soare (1)
Emmy Noether (1)
Angela Merkel (2)


Beta

SLE
Joran van der Sloot
Vincent "the Chin" Gigante
Johnny Cash
Henry Rollins
Winston Churchill
Vladimir Lenin
Joe Rogan
Benito Mussolini
Donald Trump
Ernest Hemingway
Marlon Brando
Bronco Mendenhall (1)
Joshua Jackson (1)
Bruce Dickinson (1)
Newt Gingrich (2)
Pablo Picasso (2)
Ryan Reynolds (2)
Fred Durst (2)

Sandra Bernhard
Megan Fox
Courtney Love
Roseanne Barr
Madonna
Pink
Inna Shevchenko (1)
Otep Shamaya (1)
Sharon Stone (2)
Chelsea Handler (2)
Rachel Weisz (2)


IEI
Osama bin Laden
Charles Baudelaire
Edgar Allan Poe
Jeff Buckley
Thom Yorke
Albert Camus
Lil Wayne
Ian Curtis
Alex Turner
Kurt Cobain
Cillian Murphy
Ben Folds (1)
Bernard Williams (1)
Jaden Smith (1)
Conor Oberst (1)
Enrique Iglesias (2)
Jared Leto (2)
Herman Hesse (2)
Tupac Shakur (2Pac) (2)
David Lynch (2)
Nas (2)

Anaïs Nin
Tori Amos
Utada Hikaru (1)
Fuyuko Matsui (1)
Yalda Hakim (1)
Vera Farmiga (1)
Evangeline Lilly (1)
Janelle Monáe (1)
Zoe Saldana (1)
Fiona Apple (2)


EIE
Fidel Castro
John Waters
Ra Uru Hu
Klaus Kinski
David Bowie
Mika
Freddie Mercury
Adolf ******
Salvador Dalí
John F. Kennedy
Bono
Auguste Comte (1)
Billy Graham (1)
Rainer Werner Fassbinder (1)
Emmanuel Macron (2)
Steve Jobs (2)
Oscar Wilde (2)
Morrissey (2)
Michael Douglas (2)

Lucille Ball
Diamanda Galás
Charlize Theron
Shirley Manson
Jane Fonda
Toni Morrison (1)
Mylène Farmer (1)
Tyra Banks (2)
Oprah Winfrey (2)


LSI
Daniel Day-Lewis
Vladimir Putin
Bear Grylls
Mads Mikkelsen
Sting
Joseph Stalin
Mike Pence
James Dean
Takeshi Kitano (Beat Takeshi)
James Hetfield
Michael Savage (1)
Nicholas Hoult (1)
Carl Schmitt (1)
Gary Sinise (1)
Kevin McKidd (1)
Clint Eastwood (2)
Ed Harris (2)
Christopher Langan (2)
Lemmy Kilmister (2)

Linda Fiorentino
Lucy Liu
Emily Blunt
Lisa Eldridge (1)
Catherine Zeta-Jones (2)
Victoria Beckham (2)
Hillary Clinton (2)


Gamma

SEE
David Lee Roth
Elvis Presley
Robbie Williams
Charles Bukowski
Kevin Hart
Rob Dyrdek (1)
Diego Maradona (2)
George Clooney (2)
Kanye West (2)
Phil Anselmo (2)

Amy Schumer
Cardi B
Jennifer Lawrence
Elizabeth Taylor
Selena Quintanilla-Perez (1)
Trisha Paytas (1)
Hannah Arendt (1)
Lindsay Lohan (2)
Anna Nicole Smith (2)
Miley Cyrus (2)
Paris Hilton (2)


ILI
Ben Stein
Trent Reznor
Franz Kafka
David Cronenberg
Stanley Kubrick
Gordon Brown
Alan Moore
Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (1)
Stanisław Lem (1)
David Mitchell (1)
Tobey Maguire (2)
Niels Bohr (2)

Elly Jackson (La Roux)
Jada Pinkett-Smith
Carrie-Anne Moss


LIE
Sacha Baron Cohen
Jay-Z
Bill Gates
Denzel Washington
Bob Baldwin (1)
Michael Bloomberg (1)
Gang Dong-won (1)
Robert McNamara (1)
Cody Wilson (1)
Rahm Emanuel (1)
Yaron Brook (1)
Dustin Diamond (1)
Devin Townsend (1)
Garry Kasparov (2)
Idris Elba (2)
Elon Musk (2)

Joanne Woodward
Martha Plimpton (1)
Lena Headey (1)
Kelly Clarkson (2)


ESI
Paul Newman
Wayne Goss
Stromae
Johnny Marr (1)

Michelle Malkin (1)
Angel Olsen (1)
Laetitia Casta (1)
Sarah Blasko (1)
Leslie Feist (2)
Céline Dion (2)
Meg Ryan (2)
Rihanna (2)
Florence Welch (2)
Brigitte Bardot (2)


Delta

IEE
Mark Twain
Gotye
Billy Connolly
Eric Andre
J. D. Salinger
Jimmy Wales
Michael J. Fox
Mark Ruffalo (1)
Keir Gilchrist (1)
Pete Loeffler (1)
Austin Winkler (1)
Richard Ayoade (1)
Dave Grohl (2)
Jason Mraz (2)
Elijah Wood (2)

Maeve Binchy
Lena Dunham
Drew Barrymore
Carrie Fisher
Ellen DeGeneres
Cher
Anne Frank
Parker Posey (1)
Gal Gadot (1)
Ricki Lake (1)
Jennifer Garner (2)
Claire Danes (2)
Vanessa Carlton (2)
Alanis Morissette (2)


SLI
Chris Leak
Timbaland
Colin Firth
Harrison Ford
Ulysses S. Grant
Wayne Gretzky
Kimi Räikkönen
John Slattery (1)
Marc Maron (1)
Richard Dean Anderson (1)
Steve McQueen (1)
Heath Ledger (2)
Chuck Norris (2)

Frances Farmer
Jan Garavaglia (Dr. G)
Beatrix Potter
Grace Kelly
Jennifer Connelly (2)


LSE
John Madden
Mitt Romney
Jair Bolsonaro
O. J. Simpson
David S. Linthicum (1)
Armin Meiwes (1)
William F. Buckley Jr. (1)
Mike Rowe (2)
Bruce Willis (2)
Matt Damon (2)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (2)
Thomas Edison (2)
Liev Schreiber (2)
Rick Perry (2)

Jane Seymour
Cindy Crawford (1)
Jeri Ryan (1)
Natascha McElhone (1)
Suze Orman (2)
Susan Sarandon (2)
Martha Stewart (2)


EII
Fred Rogers (Mr. Rogers)
Jeremy Irons
Alain de Botton
David Duchovny
Andy Goldsworthy (1)
Antoni Kępiński (1)
Howard Zinn (1)
Eckhart Tolle (2)
Hayao Miyazaki (2)
Adrien Brody (2)
Robert Pattinson (2)

Sophie Marceau
Virginia Woolf
Rebecca Hall
Mia Wasikowska
Lee Young-ae (1)
Johanna Kurkela (1)
Margaret Atwood (1)
Sissy Spacek (1)
Cate Blanchett (2)

[Sol]

This list is interesting to be. But it's baseless to think it as serious.
I made alike theme on socioforum. Many opinions there were under influence of authors who wrote books, besides Russians generally have better choice of sources to study about types, so for Russian forums this works some better. English forums have high influence of more doubtful sources, including MBTI lists based on worse theory.

Also in the beginning I looked at lists from popular authors. And checked where they match. The accuracy of all authors seems to be below 50%. It's anyway was better than nothing for a novice.

The list consists of people who are typed with >50% convergence

Typed by very majority of incompetent noobs, with much of doubtful heretic theories, very speculative methods, often doubtful and limited data as public info about famouses.

Also with high level of conformism wich strongly reduces the meaning of the match level, what is expected from noobs without large _own_ typing experience (when types initially were identified purely themselves without external opinions, and with high assurance). The lack of info predisposes too. People are lesser assured to trust themselves and such easier agree with others. Plus emotions and personal contacts. This conformism is expressed to external sources where those opinions could be seen and between people on this forum.

> typings by users who explain how they came to a conclusion are more valuable than these who just write a type

Not when those conclusions have low quality of the analyse and of the data used for it. Mainly those are useless very speculative reasonings. Not when among main methods were which do not suppose explanations being intuitive as VI and hence not much to say and without intuitive data logical arguments may be not enough to convince. Not when logical analysis (in case you value it much for typing) could be used among methods but it's hard and boring to write details enough to convince on a forum for random people.

Your approach ignores important details of objectivity. It's closer to F, and speculative Ti minds than Te types, one of which you suppose at yourself at now moment.

> typings based on information about person are better than VI-only ones

Only when: the other data is quality (generally it's not about famouses, except some behavior you may see yourself), a typer has good skills to use other info interpretation (it's not for 99% of forum members as those have small typing experience and heretical bs in heads), a typer also used behavior VI with skills which are not significantly worse (it's not for 99%).

Also to use more info does not mean to rise the accuracy significantly. You may use a single method as VI with high enough accuracy. With a training you understand better when you can be assured, while nonverbal itself often has enough and correct data to identify types.

In sum
The naive approach not valid for good accuracy by _objective_ reasons.
Mainly, it's a collection of _conformistic_ incompetent opinions, often based on low quality data.

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It's possibly to use a match to some arise an accuracy.
You need to use only opinions of experienced typers, at least. Not of random people on forums, definetely. You may limit those typers by any methods preferences you'd want.
But even with experienced ones you'll get big problem of a conformism. So you'd need to make a list of not those who were publicly typed already - on forums or exist in lists. Famouses are doubtful to be used for this.

If you need good examples of types, - any typer would recommend to look in his list. I recommend my list of bloggers.
If you'll make a videointerview and will get my assured opinion about your type's traits, then you'll can check the degree your IR related impressions fit to IR theory with my examples. Such you'd got a chance to notice are my examples correct enough. It's not IRL close communications with examples and not only types influence so this may distort your impressions. I have no 100% accuracy, but to notice expected IR effects it should be enough.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

This is excellent work.

I probably disagree with about half the typings I have an opinion on, and would generally feel doubtful about the ones I agree with.

Unfortunately, the process will take into account typings over an extended period of time (the forum's history), and its typings are probably mostly not independent from each other (people are liable to be influenced by what has already been said). @thehotelambush's Sedecology website is a promising project.

[Exodus]

Sedecology also allows you to compare typings, and to create benchmark lists (I'm going to add more flexible settings for this soon).

This list, and generally lists based on opinions of random people, are not that great to be honest - garbage in, garbage out.

Here are the ones I agree with:

Weird Al Yankovic
Douglas Adams
Bertrand Russell (maybe)
Mitch Hedberg (maybe LII)
Alizee
Björk
Stan Lee
Paul Dirac
Andrew Wiles
Donald Trump
Edgar Allan Poe
David Lynch
David Bowie
Freddie Mercury
Adolf ******
Bono
Steve Jobs
Christopher Langan
Elvis Presley
Jennifer Lawrence
Trisha Paytas
Paris Hilton
Ben Stein
Stanley Kubrick
Bill Gates
Garry Kasparov
Ellen DeGeneres
Harrison Ford
Arnold Schwarzenegger

And the ones that seem wrong:

Jon Stewart - probably not ILE
Harmony Korine - IEI or maybe ILI, definitely not SEI
Tom Cruise - I favor EIE but maybe ESE isn't crazy
Amanda Bynes - more likely SEE
Oppenheimer - IEI
Ted Kaczynski - LSI (universal consensus on Sedecology btw)
Joe Rogan - maybe SEE
Chelsea Handler - I think LIE, or if not then SEE
Jaden Smith - maybe EIE, definitely Beta NF in any case
Tupac Shakur - EIE
Toni Morrison - ESI
Charles Bukowski - more likely EIE
Kanye West - EIE
Carrie-Anne Moss - I'm unsure but maybe ESI or IEI - ILI wasn't one of the types I had in mind
Brigitte Bardot - EIE
Mark Ruffalo - EII maybe
Carrie Fisher - SEE or maybe EIE, not IEE
Jennifer Connelly - maybe EII, SLI is reasonable though
Jair Bolsonaro - no way, probably SLE
Robert Pattinson - seemed more like an Fe ego type

So, slightly more than half. That's not that great, but maybe better than I expected.

[khcs]

The entries in the Famous People Types List are all inaccurate. Use them at your own risk.

[Pookie]

Good methodology.