Socionics Beta types Examples

[Ikite iru]

this guy kinda looks like a mix of julian assange and ted kaczynski (which is amusing to me).

[Sol]

Taro Mariia - ESTP


Olga Levitina [left] - ESTP
or ISTJ

[Ikite iru]

I wonder how many IEI on youtube people here need to see before they grasp that almost everyone on youtube is an IEI. Is this Ne ignoring? People being unable to grasp broad patterns and instead having to see everyone in-depth to make that conclusion? Who knows.

[Sol]

Louise Dwyer (Talking with Famous People) - ESTP

Psychology with Dr. Ana - mb INTP

I wonder how many IEI on youtube people here need to see before they grasp that almost everyone on youtube is an IEI.

You claim the similar not for YT only, but in general.

YT in recent time has interesting specifics. I suspect it uses among reasons to recommend bloggers - a similarity of faces, and mb other visual similarity of scenes. The look and the behavior impressions are mixed partly and so recommended people have arised chance to be wrongly suspected to have same type. Also people of same types may to have higher % in recommendations too, in case YT algorithms are influenced by nonverbal behavior too.
It will be the same for watched blogger of _any_ type. If you'll look someone with some type (including far from IEI), then you should notice more of recommended bloggers which have similarity in the look and hence can be suspected as having that type with higher %.

[Finaplex]

Louise Dwyer (Talking with Famous People) - ESTP

Louise Dwyer - yes to ESTp, at face value. She reminds me of Pink, which is likely one of her influences. Sometimes in socionics, neurones that wire together, fire together. Same with people and information elements.

and in what Universe is she my dual?, lol

[Finaplex]

Olga Levitina [left] - ESTP
or ISTJ

I'm getting a real Teal Swan vibe here. ...

[Sol]

Carrie Fisher - mb INFP

In movies people may give other impressions. Damned internet and interviews have leaded to doubts about someones. She was among 1st typed to EII.

in what Universe is she my dual?

My main version of your type was SEI. Supposed by photos and some behavior. You may make a theme with a video for more objectivity.

[Finaplex]

My main version of your type was SEI. Supposed by photos and some behavior. You may make a theme with a video for more objectivity.

Here I will help you out, because this is best anyone on the site can hope to achieve "...theme with a video for more subjective attempt at objectivity"

[Ikite iru]

Me thinks EIE. Looks somewhat similar to Taylor Swift imo

[nifl]

Lars Hjortshøj on the right may be EIE

[godslave]

Tony Samara - IEI (I hesitated between that and SEI)

The second Interview is more interesting.

[The Reality Denialist]

IEI and EIE

[nifl]

Mollie Adler is IEI


Jen Taylor - IEI

[Jimbean]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/INtuIHj7OXc/

Lauren Southern, SLE
Not 100% sure though

[Jimbean]

Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson, both SLE
I've met Alex Jones and I'm 100% sure that he is an SLE

[nifl]

Alex Jones is an F type

[Ikite iru]

when you browse youtube for a while, you tend to notice that there's specific groups of content creators. video game streamers that film themselves while playing a random game, drama channels that seek emotional engagement with their environments, educational channels that explain random topics that you will never need to know in your entire life and also tons of other stuff and there's too many to count and I don't particularily care about them. this channel is from a guy that has a more philosophical perspective and of course he doesn't share his face, but he still seems to have a desire to convince random people of his perspective, but why? why do certain people feel the need the engage with an unknown audience? could it be that the topic is irrelevant, and that the desire to do that is already an indication towards a certain type? and the topics are subtypes that exist within a type? and some do not seem to get along with each other, while others are sympathetic towards one another? it's almost like there's a deeper layer to it all, and putting 8 billion people into 16 boxes is more of an authoritarian thing for people like sol who think Putin is gods gift to earth. whatever. Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson are IEI. that's all for now

[misanthropex6]

SLE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J96nd91U5kE
EIE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbdKi5Ynk88
IEI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW9sF_1KfaE
LSI:
https://youtu.be/N723si1wAG8

[Ikite iru]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaUNYKbQj9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHS_1DYdxzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzArhzPjDak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5dEhUlH684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUPj-zFP8g

nobody is going to watch all these videos obviously, but it seems clear to me that people who have the same interests are more alike. there's no way these open-minded artistic people are going to get along with conservative, unimaginative realists. it's unrelated to socionics' intertype relationships but important to keep in mind. socionics seems almost archaic when you observe all these people on the internet. it might be better for people to group themselves with others who are similar to them, and the sociotype in itself comes second. I have met artistically inclined LSE or IEE, so it's not like they don't exist. they just don't broadcast themselves to a global audience so they don't end up being celebrities who are mainly IEI

[nifl]

I have met artistically inclined IEE, so it's not like they don't exist. they just don't broadcast themselves to a global audience so they don't end up being celebrities who are mainly IEI

a difference between IEE and IEI according to Alive: IEI are more inclined to extraverted activities
with this understanding, his scepticism towards Socionics is not hard to understand

[Ikite iru]

hey sol, there are countless of other smiley's you can use. such a shame you lack any kind of identity. must be a weird life having no original thoughts and just mindlessly following a decade old theory without ever questioning it.

[misanthropex6]

a difference between IEE and IEI according to Alive: IEI are more inclined to extraverted activities
with this understanding, his scepticism towards Socionics is not hard to understand

The fuck? That's why y'all have to learn to think for yourselves, not to take anyone's opinion for granted. 8 functions (7 because role is essentially useless) and people can't understand simple objective logic, so at least there's MBTI mysticism waiting for them.

[Ikite iru]

The fuck? That's why y'all have to learn to think for yourselves, not to take anyone's opinion for granted. 8 functions (7 because role is essentially useless) and people can't understand simple objective logic, so at least there's MBTI mysticism waiting for them.

technically people are good at 5 out of 8 functions when you look at model A. role, vulnerable and ignoring are very difficult to use. I suspect that different people have different weaknesses, though. in case of IEI, who dominate this site, it would be for example: Si role, an inability to undertand signals of your own body in regards to health, not going to the doctor when you are sick, or thinking you have cancer after a google search, thinking alternative medicine is the answer when you should do treatment or not doing treatment at all, being unable to life a normal, boring, comfortable life and overestimating your ambition (due to suggestive Se). ignoring health while doing things, like working 15 hours or playing a video game the whole day, there's really a myriad of ways it can show. Te PolR: men who waste their money online on women that don't give a rat's ass about them (simping), women going highly in debt to pursue a degree that ultimatively won't bring them any financial benefit, or not seeing anything wrong with making a lot for farting in a jar as an "influencer". very prone to waste resources or being late to appointments or missing them or making big purchases that didn't turn out so well, easily prone to risk life savings for a huge return that most likely won't happen. Ne ignoring means that they are pretty much ideologically married to their perspective and don't change it easily, especially when concrete information is missing. deal terrible in flexible vagueness, a religious fanatic in his convictions so to speak. there's really a lot of ways in which a function can be a strenght or a weakness. I haven't even remotely mentioned all of them.

this is why I hate the idea that Te=facts and Ne=ideas. it's so oversimplified it borders on ridiculousness

[godslave]

I don't know if she's famous but at the time I'm posting this, she' a youtuber with 64 k subs. God knows how many other minions she has on other social medias.

I Transfered this post from "Famous Beta ST Ladies" to here because I posted there by mistake (I thought it was this thread !)

Yesterday, I was exploring the meaning of "having a crush" and how people interpret it. One of the first videos of my YT search was this one just below. Its title intrigued me so I watched it and that young lady kinda fascinated me. She had me at "delulu" !

I have similar way of explaining things.

(Edit : What the freak what that shining thing in the background at 3:14 ??!!! It looked like an asteroid or disintegration of some king of space artefact. It was probably the reflection of a truck headlights though, but still, weird shape. )

I've just watched the following videos (just before posting this).





My gut tells me SEE but EIE might fit her (depending on the EIE "type image" one might have).

I want to point out that if EIE (or at least not a Delta type) is indeed a best fit for her, then we'll have evidence that "being the best version of oneself" is not an idiom exclusive to Deltas contrary to the claim of some socionics pros. Imho, that claim is bs. That idiom is neither quadra nor type related.

[Ikite iru]

one thing that I find interesting about "rationalist" like Ben Shapiro in america is that it seems they collectively do not believe climate change exist. as if the idea of it existing is threatening their whole ideology so it gets blocked out of their mind. similar to how emotional IEI are proponents of collectivistic ideologies, "rational" IEI are ideologically married to "freedom", "individualism", "facts". I don't think these people decide it conciously. their mind just works that way and when they are in power, they are enforcing it onto the public, thinking everyone must potentially feel the same.

[Distance]

SLE

[youfloweryourfeast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuYpsUuRtdY

There was this YouTube video that came up on my TV and it was funny at first, the girl is more funny though I think she is def EIE. The guy is SLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVhAVSkXYVs&t=1535s

[godslave]

IEI (?)

I don't know who that young lady is. Her video was suggested by Youtube algorhythm. I guess it's because I recently clicked on some of those "I hate my life" videos which apparently are quite numerous. People crying (often in their cars) about Te issues for the most part...

[nifl]

Naomi Jon - SEE
ILE is the alternative

[The Reality Denialist]

IEI (?)

I don't know who that young lady is. Her video was suggested by Youtube algorhythm. I guess it's because I recently clicked on some of those "I hate my life" videos which apparently are quite numerous. People crying (often in their cars) about Te issues for the most part...

Well, I suppose YT algorithm can help you to find lots of identicals. Now, all you need to do is... to spam the theme in. Cry in the wilderness, as per Jung on NI.

[godslave]

This was a YTSuggestion, I don't know who that young lady is... (< déjà-vu ).

At the end of that video she asked people to comment if they find it useful. I though about leaving a comment saying that it was indeed useful and I used it as an example of a certain type in a typology forum but then for some reason I thought that it might add to her misery and suffering to know about socionics right now.

Then I wanted to see what her channel is about and the first video I clicked was this :



IEI (?)

[The Reality Denialist]

This was a YTSuggestion, I don't know who that young lady is... (< déjà-vu ).

The bottomless pit of Ni, ignoring Ne.

[godslave]

The bottomless pit of Ni, ignoring Ne.

It was meant to be humoristic ! I was totally aware that I wrote the same thing in the post prior to that one ! That said maybe you were joking too

Unless, I completely miss the point of what you are saying, that's very possible too.

PS. Fwiw, I have to say that I really appreciate your typing and comments !

[Karu]

I think her type is EIE with Dominant as subtype being a good guess. Other EIEs can be much less expressive than people like her.

I think she's ultimately right in her overall point of view but if you go through her videos and listen to her story, she only 'discovered' the way she'd been played for most of her life when she got older.

This is how Se valuing in some Beta NFs puts them in danger of lowkey exploitative dynamics when some others just... don't have the strength nor the interest. Hence they unbeknownst to themselves, evade the risk.

[The Reality Denialist]

It was meant to be humoristic ! I was totally aware that I wrote the same thing in the post prior to that one ! That said maybe you were joking too

Unless, I completely miss the point of what you are saying, that's very possible too.

PS. Fwiw, I have to say that I really appreciate your typing and comments !

Well, well... it was totally neutral standpoint from me... I'd say just keep feeding the algorithm, and you will reach alive in IEI typing stats (and develop a new sort of delusion: delusion by the algorithm. I'd bet this delusion has already reaped some souls).

[youfloweryourfeast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8iK3ZrInko he looks like them

[nifl]

The Past is a Foreign Pantry - IEI

[qaz00]

The Past is a Foreign Pantry - IEI

Gamma-Delta territory... closest to SEE-Fi.

[Distance]

Gamma-Delta territory... closest to SEE-Fi.

That whole thought wander is Ne IMO.

If she is SEE than so am I, aye, i for an aye, says my eye.

[Distance]

LSI