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    Default Anyone here signed up for Gulenko's beginner course before?

    https://socioniks.net/article/?id=261

    A friend and I are planning on going for Gulenko's online course. If by sheer chance you're went for it before, we're curious on how your experience has been! Some questions for thought:

    1. Informativeness of the online course vs learning on your own (e.g. through socioniks site, G's book, community translations and discussion)?
    2. How fruitful do you think the online course actually is, vs attending lessons irl in Kiev?
    3. How understandable/helpful are the materials after you've translated them yourself?
    4. Any negative experiences, your initial expectations vs reality?
    5. To what degree would you consider the experience worth it overall?

    Thank you very much :)

    (also posted on reddit)

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    To think that spending money on socoincs will give you greater value I think is a huge illusion. Jack Oliver Aaaron just says 'I see' in all his interviews and doesn't offer anything really constructive in response. Gulenko is better than JoA but that isn't saying much. It's better to be vomited on than shat on- but I still don't want to be puked on.

    Yes usually, in a generic sense- 'you get what you pay for' but buying a course on socionics isn't exactly the same thing as buying a diamond ring that would look good on you or whatever. And anyways that sort of half-truth is what scammers use to fuel their scams.

    There is a lot of naive housewife-y type people that "socionists" are exploiting for money. If not socionics they would just spend their money on an Esther Hicks self help book or something though or Teal Swan's book. Nature culls the weak.

    "bandd you are just some loser with Te polr and a minimum wage job- what do you know of true value?" But see here- I think Te polr is a type of thing that enables one to see what true value really is, just like how a LIEs Si polr helps them push toward the goal-line where others fail and give up. A type's polr is many times a hidden strength that way.

    This sorta illusion around money surrounds Disney too- they are changing a whole bunch of crap with Te and making it a shitty park to go too- not that it was all that cracked up to be in the first place. By overcharging you so much money it makes a goy think they are getting a good service and that it is worthwhile but they are really just getting scammed. 'Disney Delta' indeed lol.

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    I think the only place where one should bother with such thing, is if they live in Russia, where there are literal Socionics degrees
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    Sounds interesting. Please tell us afterwards how it was. I guess it depends if you like G or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Sounds interesting. Please tell us afterwards how it was. I guess it depends if you like G or not.
    I'm not sure how to listen to a course given in Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR400AF View Post
    I'm not sure how to listen to a course given in Russian.
    It's conducted over skype, and if I'm not wrong it has a live translation feature. Additionally they'll send transcripts of each lesson, they're in russian though

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    Does this mean people get to argue with Gulenko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmcbbyld View Post
    It's conducted over skype, and if I'm not wrong it has a live translation feature. Additionally they'll send transcripts of each lesson, they're in russian though
    Okay I got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Does this mean people get to argue with Gulenko?
    If it's in the form of civil question-asking, lol

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    Gulenko is so universally hated on this forum I can only perceive this as trolling lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Gulenko is so universally hated on this forum I can only perceive this as trolling lol.
    Yeah, there's a really strong mob mentality thing going on here. I think if someone had the intention to troll, there are much better tones to use than the one I'm speaking in. But at least I tried asking, in the communities I know of.

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