VI Discussion

[Braingel]

I saw less Ni in videos than I expected... Probably EIE, I'm not sure of subtype anymore. As an alternative maybe ESE-Fe is possible, definitely not IEI.

For my post above..

The best video of me is the first one, because it is closest to my face and I am not under heavy stress... The second video is blurry, and the third video is pretty awful because I was under serious stress and the bags under my eyes probably cloud things. I just think the most accurate way for people to type me is to read my Quora, but that was not what this thread is about..

I definitely use Ni very strongly, which will be seen in my IME. IEI-Fe I think works fine, because it is Fe sub, and then EIE-NI as alternative is not that horrid..

[qaz00]

For my post above..

The best video of me is the first one, because it is closest to my face and I am not under heavy stress... The second video is blurry, and the third video is pretty awful because I was under serious stress and the bags under my eyes probably cloud things. I just think the most accurate way for people to type me is to read my Quora, but that was not what this thread is about..

I definitely use Ni very strongly, which will be seen in my IME. IEI-Fe I think works fine, because it is Fe sub, and then EIE-NI as alternative is not that horrid..

For my VI method 3rd video was best as it showed your style of expression when reacting emotionally (it's where type differences become most apparent), also closest to the face doesn't mean better, body movements are very helpful in figuring out temperament. You have some sort of directness/intensity that just doesn't fit my internal image of IEI. Also voice tone and sentence construction reminds me of extraverted types. I skimmed through your texts and I'll add SEE to possible types, EIE>ESE>SEE is my final word.

[Braingel]

For my VI method 3rd video was best as it showed your style of expression when reacting emotionally (it's where type differences become most apparent), also closest to the face doesn't mean better, body movements are very helpful in figuring out temperament. You have some sort of directness/intensity that just doesn't fit my internal image of IEI. Also voice tone and sentence construction reminds me of extraverted types. I skimmed through your texts and I'll add SEE to possible types, EIE>ESE>SEE is my final word.

The issue with SEE and ESE is my Ni is absolutely not 1d.. EIE-Ni is not a horrible typing, but I think IEI-Fe still is what I am, also basing upon how people in person met me..

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[Braingel]

For my VI method 3rd video was best as it showed your style of expression when reacting emotionally (it's where type differences become most apparent), also closest to the face doesn't mean better, body movements are very helpful in figuring out temperament. You have some sort of directness/intensity that just doesn't fit my internal image of IEI. Also voice tone and sentence construction reminds me of extraverted types. I skimmed through your texts and I'll add SEE to possible types, EIE>ESE>SEE is my final word.

I definitely am Beta NF, IEI-Fe or EIE-Ni..

My Ni is one of my greatest aptitudes, though I cannot always consciously harness it

Here is an example of my Ni..

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Then a bit more reading, but:
https://www.quora.com/Does-something...ara-Soylular-3

https://www.quora.com/What-should-I-...ara-Soylular-3

https://qr.ae/pG2rM1

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-clinic...ara-Soylular-3

https://qr.ae/pGAV9D

https://metaphysicsandholistics.quor...share=c4c5df06

https://qr.ae/pGCTpj

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-tre...__=22447422435

That would take a bit of your time, maybe like 12 minutes, so do not feel obligated, of course.

[qaz00]

I definitely am Beta NF, IEI-Fe or EIE-Ni..

My Ni is one of my greatest aptitudes, though I cannot always consciously harness it

Here is an example of my Ni..

Screen Shot 2021-06-13 at 14.44.04.png

Then a bit more reading, but:
https://www.quora.com/Does-something...ara-Soylular-3

https://qr.ae/pGAV9D

https://metaphysicsandholistics.quor...share=c4c5df06

https://qr.ae/pGCTpj

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-tre...__=22447422435

That would take a bit of your time, maybe like 10 minutes, so do not feel obligated, of course.

Apophenia and interest in esoteric things are not Ni, there's definitely some correlation but not causation. I just don't see high dimensional Ni in your way of thinking (on a cognitive level), I only see stereotypically Ni-related activities, it's like your Fi/Fe area issues pushed you into Ni area exploration. These are just my impressions that may be wrong as I don't know you that well and my typing methods are very vibe based and chaotic and make way less sense when I'm trying to write them up than in my head

[Braingel]

Apophenia and interest in esoteric things are not Ni, there's definitely some correlation but not causation. I just don't see high dimensional Ni in your way of thinking (on a cognitive level), I only see stereotypically Ni-related activities, it's like your Fi/Fe area issues pushed you into Ni area exploration. These are just my impressions that may be wrong as I don't know you that well and my typing methods are very vibe based and chaotic and make way less sense when I'm trying to write them up than in my head

I see.. Well, the reason why I see myself as a high Ni user is having do with my neglect of sensory matters. My room is grossly messy, I do not really notice things in my environment, and environmental comfort is not very much a focus as for me (there will be things in my environment that I will only see for a first time upon several years of having lived there, like my parent's new house, and I only recently saw a tennis court that is nearby our neighborhood and they drove past it hundreds of times. Then the same was case with a picture of my deceased grandma and I felt the frequency of her trying connect with me and then when I look up as soon as I know, I see the picture of her right in my parent's glass cabinet and I had never seen it in the house).. I notice patterns and trends within things and am a very future thinker.. My default mode is noting patterns and trends, and I do not even think about it and have to literally force myself to gain conscious over it, it is coming as easily as does one breathes.

It would require a bit of your time's extension, but reading eventually some links which it seems maybe you read a few by how you worded this, would help better to illuminate my Ni demonstration.. I also grasp the whole, not details, and I relate to the Vortical-Synergetic cognitive style.. Process/Result is also an important Renin, and I definitely believe I am result which also is why I gravitate unto IEI>EIE.. My Te is poor in some aspect and LIE also heavily supervise me.. The biggest example is a guy in community named Stugg, a moderator on personality database...

I live in filth, completely unscathed by it.. My ESE mother always is picking up after me, driven bonkers by my messiness.. Whereas I pay no attention as to what is around me.

My room has gotten to near my knees before, and my mother and grandma had to clean it and made me do it with them as well (which I loathed), and I never pick up after myself and will just keep being messy.. It is in part of why I cannot as of this yet live alone.. Apart of it is my ASD executive functioning, but I am unbothered by it, which a sensory type would be. A sensor probably would at least want others help them manage it, whereas I do not seek it out.. My mother has to get fed up and then clean it or demand I do such.

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This is my old room, you will see it was up to my knees
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I cannot organize myself for the life of me. And it has been this way since early childhood. It is how I in fist of places became special ed for my Aspergers; my inability to organize myself. My PolR has to be a T or an S... LIE-Ni's are more gracious towards me than LIE-Te, but both give me hard time and nit pick me, or just ignore me and seemingly internally laugh and feel sorry for me, but do not take me seriously because of my disordered approach.

[Braingel]

By the way, this picture is of me as a little girl, before I had any trauma and was in well health:
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