This is a subject worthy of an own thread.
@shotgunfingers LSI-H
@Ebony IEI-C
@Suspiria EIE-C
@Chakram LSI-N
@Paranoia Agent ILI-C
@thegreenfaerie LSI-H
@Uncle Ave LSI-C
@aster IEI-N
@justalitnerdxx IEI-H
Gulenko's typings of forum members AKA Big G SquaD
This is a subject worthy of an own thread.
@shotgunfingers LSI-H
@Ebony IEI-C
@Suspiria EIE-C
@Chakram LSI-N
@Paranoia Agent ILI-C
@thegreenfaerie LSI-H
@Uncle Ave LSI-C
@aster IEI-N
@justalitnerdxx IEI-H
Last edited by Reyne; 12-07-2020 at 03:40 PM.
soo, what is it that you guys want to know?
Tell us more about your love life ; )Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
I like how on the page for English speakers to get typed, his shirt says ‘American’. Idk why I just thought it was hilarious.
> shotgunfingers - LSI-H
most possibly ILE
For example. Base T do not jump easily to different types in own profile - they are the most reasonable in logical themes as what is your type. They prefer to think good to decide something as assured and said publicly. So to say not assured opinions (without pointing it's not assured) or change it easily - is not about base T type. While you jumped to rather different types and several times per a short time. It's good reason to reject base T and to suppose P type.
There are low matches between today experienced typers, - so there should be significant % of mistakes (mb ~50%). Besides heretical doubtful hypotheses may be used by them to reduce an accuracy. Gulenko uses a lot of heresies.
So the best is to study to type people yourself and to check your own type by IR effects with people IRL. Where those people should be typed by VI also, as nonverbal behavior is linked with types and adds useful info. Only then there is good base to be sure in your own type.
Interesting, where @Reyne would be typed by him
Last edited by Sol; 11-14-2020 at 12:19 PM.
I disagreed with the ILE typing mainly because I'm some kind of a political revolutionary and not a inventor or a scientist. I'm too cautious and overthink before I do anything, prefer to have one elegant and rigid solution, than to take risks and have many options. I also disagreed with Fi PolR, because comparing myself to other Fi PolR types I seemed to be more aware and just deliberately trying to start fires in order to push my agendas.
Somone in my typing thread mentioned that "he does not invent tho". I though that was funny.
True, Gulenko uses model G, which is not model A. The recommendation is to forget model A, as it is flawed. I was typed according to model G.There are low matches between today experienced typers, - so there should be significant % of mistakes (mb ~50%). Besides heretical doubtful hypotheses may be used by them to reduce an accuracy. Gulenko uses a lot of heresies.
Tbh I just wanted to understand why I was the way I was, I'm not interested in pursuing duality or anything ITR related, so further comprehension of the system is less useful to me.So the best is to study to type people yourself and to check your own type by IR effects with people IRL. Where those people should be typed by VI also, as nonverbal behavior is linked with types and adds useful info. Only then there is good base to be sure in your own type
EDIT:
Last edited by SGF; 11-14-2020 at 03:00 PM. Reason: typos
My intention is to wait until more forum members get typed by him. If Gulenko's typings of them seem to make sense I may buy the service.Interesting, where @Reyne would be typed by him
Coward, using us as lab rats.
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
Imagine if he types you SLE. I may aswell throw my money in the air and burn it spitting alcohol in front of a lighter.
I've been thinking the same thing honestly. I was already seeing myself as LSE because I used the phrasing "in real life" twice in my video. Who knows, who knows ♡
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
Doing that would get you some heat, while being typed by Gulenko might not.
Yeah, his cognition is clearly and incredibly at odds with all self-typed LSI I have seen so far, especially the ones typed correctly.> shotgunfingers - LSI-H
most possibly ILE
For example. Base T do not jump easily to different types in own profile - they are the most reasonable in logical themes as what is your type. They prefer to think good to decide something as assured and said publicly. So to say not assured opinions (without pointing it's not assured) or change it easily - is not about base T type. While you jumped to rather different types and several times per a short time. It's good reason to reject base T and to suppose P type.
There are low matches between today experienced typers, - so there should be significant % of mistakes (mb ~50%). Besides heretical doubtful hypotheses may be used by them to reduce an accuracy. Gulenko uses a lot of heresies.
So the best is to study to type people yourself and to check your own type by IR effects with people IRL. Where those people should be typed by VI also, as nonverbal behavior is linked with types and adds useful info. Only then there is good base to be sure in your own type.
Interesting, where @Reyne would be typed by him
I can see his reasoning behind most of what he says, so we might share some common ego function, but I often find that Ti base always have something I can't do reverse engineering to, in order to know their thoughts for example.
Last edited by BrainlessSquid; 11-14-2020 at 04:35 PM.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Popularity of this guy's typing services is my strongest motivation to research socionics atm. I see it as a great opportunity to earn easy money
Popularity of this guy's typing services is my strongest motivation to research socionics atm. I see it as a great opportunity to earn easy money
You need reputation. And experience (like several decades) is a key factor in becoming a good typist.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I think good typists are not good interviewers and good interviewers are not good typists. Hence I'd say that this operation should be performed by team of compatible members [=not butt licking or just disagreeable]. Analysis does not open people and proper interviewer can not invest time in detached analysis.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
People should understand that large part of theories about types which Gulenko uses is not Socionics.
Just his baseless fantasies, what may predispose to make stronger and more mistakes than other experienced typers.
Also do not trust when he claims your pair as your dual without having appropriate typing data for typing. He seems has such misleading predisposition.
Sol, what leads you to believe that Gulenko is wrong and Jung and Aushra are correct? I always see you post this but I don't see you justify why you lean towards orthodoxy other than to say other things are baseless, which itself is a claim that has to be justified.
you could probably combine both by interviewing the person first and then watching the video again and evaluating it from an impersonal perspective. the question with all of this is the time, though. let's say you are doing an hour long interview (I think you should at least take 40 minutes to get to know a person more in-depth), and you take 1 or 2 hours judging everything in your mind, that's quite a lot of time. you would probably have to have a very flexible job to do that, or charge a lot of money to make it worth it, and sometimes you kinda know the type after a minute. it's a bizarre entrepreneurial concept. you also cannot make certain typings too often too (like me typing a lot of people here IEI), otherwise people lose interest.
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
There is Gulenko's claim about duals (by his typing) which have problematic relations so often, that he doubts to recommend this match of types.
"It happens that duals can't support each other, but drown in endless arguing. Practice gives such a spread that I become more and more cautious in recommendations, and for duality relationship too." (Gulenko, 2001)
If to take the hypothesa about ~50% average accuracy today (based on experiments), then it's ~25% as common chance to get correct types for duality. Even if the accuracy is better, - it should be some tens % of mistakes where at least 1 of 2 in a pair got wrong type and hence IR is not duality with thought types (duality can be still, but accidentally).
What to do? The best is to check own types by yourself, with usage of common behavior, nonverbal impressions and IR effects with good known people irl. If you'll get good fit to types theory - good chance of your correct type. Same for 2nd human. It's difficult, long (~1 year) but today only this gives very high chance of your correct type.
Gulenko or other typer may help in this process, same as a test. Better typer is alike more accurate test. Significant chance of a mistake will stay anyway, so to check your type yourself by IR will be important.
In case you want be mistyped (more possibly) for money, don't miss other possibilities:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...yping-services
Your input to Socionics will be videointerviews which can be useful to understand types by other people.
I’ve already made up my mind, I’m going to do it. But Christmas is coming up, so I hate to spend that amount of money right now.
Hmmm. Based on his 90's(?) profiles I was only able to squeeze myself into ILE initial and EIE initial. Based on later information former is gazillion times more likely.
So yeah I wonder what makes this whole ordeal so hard.
Anyways, good like I hope daddy Godlenko won't bite your head off and if he does I hope he is gentle.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Example for me he wrote:
What that means:
• Contact, terminal, connective — dominant subtype (D)
• Contact, initial, ignorative — creative subtype (C)
• Distant, terminal, ignorative — normalizing subtype (N)
• Distant, initial, connective — harmonizing subtype (H)
Contactness — a feature drawing personalities to tense situations;
predisposition to danger, facing challenges, activity. Trait shared by
creative and dominant subtypes.
Distantness — a feature withdrawing personalities from tense
situations; predisposition to balance, inner control. Trait shared by
normalizing and harmonizing subtypes.
Initiality — a feature orienting personalities to undertaking new
activities easily; predisposition to being at one with what comes to you.
Trait shared by creative and harmonizing subtypes.
Terminality — a feature of personalities with orientation to bring
whatever they have begun to completion; predisposition for controlling
one’s world. Trait shared by dominant and normalizing subtypes.
Connectiveness — the feature orienting a personality towards social
suggestibility; results in increased agreeability. Trait shared by dominant
and harmonizing subtypes.
Ignorativeness — the feature orienting personalities towards utilitarian
behavior, focus on one’s personal understanding and interests. Trait shared
by creative and normalizing subtypes.
its funny how they coincide.
i like lse for susi
I'm getting typed too
Ohhh an exclusive club for the people typed by Gulenko!
I think that no matter what, the process of typing is a very revealing thing that people choose to go through so they can understand themselves better. Being in the role of a psychologist would understand the gravity of the business relationship and sympathize with their client. Gulenko is very nice and kind, and I can tell he’s like that when treating individuals because I’ve watched his lectures in front of groups and his analysis of types and specific persons are from a fair point of view.
I watched his video lecturing a group of SLE women, his supervisors, and we all know he’s Se PoLR. I can sense he sorta felt on edge lol but despite that, even he was polite from what he says about the SLE woman’s flaws and he understands the motivations, too. I think that’s a great testament to his fairness. Just because he don’t like something doesn’t mean he can’t understand and be helpful. I think for fun I’d get typed by him but it would be pointless for me because I sense he’ll take one look at my video and conclude SLE and probably respond, “I have typed many woman Marshall. They are everywhere in Russia”
I think this should be the "Officially Typed Members Thread", if people want to go that route and are that curious about it.
I do agree with this wholeheartedly, the process of typing is very revealing and provides insight. It's very important for a person to go with a distinguished individual who's method's they can respect, who also has experience in the field. Individuals like Jack (his older method was great!), Gulenko, Timur, Olga, etc.
I think he understands that socionics is very revealing when people are typed. I'm sure he wouldn't want to be too flippant during a lecture, and say something careless to a person regardless of type that could come off as insensitive. Not just because it looks bad for Socionics, or may seem like a misapplication, but also since it may affect a person's self esteem in the long term. He seems to have a deep understanding of things like this.I watched his video lecturing a group of SLE women, his supervisors, and we all know he’s Se PoLR. I can sense he sorta felt on edge lol but despite that, even he was polite from what he says about the SLE woman’s flaws and he understands the motivations, too. I think that’s a great testament to his fairness. Just because he don’t like something doesn’t mean he can’t understand and be helpful. I think for fun I’d get typed by him but it would be pointless for me because I sense he’ll take one look at my video and conclude SLE and probably respond, “I have typed many woman Marshall. They are everywhere in Russia”
There are many Beta women in Russia from what I understand, especially Beta ST, so that's true
Last edited by Vex; 11-22-2020 at 01:39 AM.
Socionics is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have, but I have it.
I can't click “like” on peoples posts due to the poor functionality of the site on my end. Just know that if you quoted me and were nice to me that I’m psychically sending you a like from my heart.
I wonder if Gulenko accepts crypto as mode of payment.
only if you accept a video result delivered by a Klingon native speaker with instantaneous Russian translation
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
I asked. Only wire transfers and direct bank transfers.
Gulenko is professional but he doesn’t have to be in a room full of his supervisors
With DCNH, that changes over time due to situational and environmental factors. The constant is that you are your type.
For those that have done this, how long did the process take from when you sent them your video and they gave you your results? Just curious.
6 days including the weekend.
That's not so bad @Megatrop
It's honestly not that easy in terms of ROI. It's 90% marketing and most people won't pay that much for typing. The market is still quite small.Popularity of this guy's typing services is my strongest motivation to research socionics atm. I see it as a great opportunity to earn easy money
You could probably just write a book on some random topic and get way more passive income for less effort.
"Gulenko's mistypings of forum members AKA Big G SquaD"
~50% may be easily with Internet typing, even with a video
to type better helps IRL commuication and good knowledge of a human
while intensive usage of wrong heretical typology hypotheses may arise mistakes in unpredictable degree
"G-man"
nice
If he types me right, you owe me a bottle of vodka + blinchiki and pelmeni. Deal??
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
And I think I saw the G-man in Half Life.
@qaz00, this is why astrology can get you a lot more money. ツ
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