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    The following is a story of what followed after posting an article on BLM a few months back

    Sorry, but my story will not be silenced. The purpose of me posting this is to exploit how many intolerant pussies roam these forums, behind the safety of their computer screen.

    I left out a TON of details, but this is the gist of what happened:

    Part I

    I thought it was just a regular day at work.

    I particularly loved this job; the location, the area, the people that I’ve worked with. Little did I know it’d also be my last day at work.

    All went well until during the day,

    I was visiting the forum and I see “Takedown” posting.

    It felt kinda suspicious because at the same time, people at work were

    acting “off:”

    –Co-workers hovering behind my back
    –Receiving strange mail that had a loud “bomb” beeper sound
    –Text messages getting deleted
    –Phone calls from Strange #s that repeatedly called
    –People with masks I’ve never seen before coming in
    –People with masks in their car waiting outside
    –The gate to close the shop was jammed
    –A software called “Drive uploader” was mysteriously installed onto my gmail.

    This was no coincidence.

    Some coordinated effort was happening in the background;

    Smoke screens, whistle blowers, fabricated stories weaved into similar stories, gaslighting, multiple characters, makeup artists, stalkers etc; these were all built-in and designed to confuse me.

    I decided to close early, and I sent my co-workers packing home early.

    I called the police and they escorted me out.

    All was well on the drive home except I noticed strange people following me in their vehicles.

    Was this paranoia?

    No because the next days that followed:

    –I got cyber-hacked…. (i remember the forum being completely silent that day)
    –A lot of shit happened hacking-wise, I'll leave the details out
    –I went to eat at Ihop and strange vehicles were circling around near us.

    At that point I was full of suspicion and I called the police again.

    An ambulance came (even though I resisted they kept insisting that I go
    get checked out)

    This was not paranoia that was baseless… But a sequence of events that justified
    this paranoia.

    I went to the hospital out of my will.

    On the way to the hospital, vehicles were following us (sounded like motor-cycles),
    they threw rocks at the vehicle.

    Later I was seen by the psychiatrist.

    I told her everything that happened, but by the look on her face, I could tell
    she wasn’t buying anything I was telling her.

    She didn't do shit.

    “I was in this alone” I thought.

    All I wanted to do was to physically punch the person/people that were involved in this, and injure them to the point that their eye sockets would come off, dangling down their face

    After being “evaluated” I was waiting in the waiting room to be escorted out…

    I thought “hmm…. why is this taking so long?”
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    Still waiting and waiting…

    I was in the psychiatric waiting room area, waiting to be escorted out.

    I was there for hours and hours.

    All of a sudden I got a flash of insight – something was off in the environment; the sounds , the nervousness I could read on the medical staff’s body language…

    There’s no way a patient could be waiting for this long to leave a hospital I thought.

    Then it dawned on me.

    My life was in danger as each passing hour was going by.

    They were gonna turn me into the mob outside.

    Yes there was a violent angry mob, waiting for me outside the hospital and nobody was doing a thing about it

    In a hurry I decided to run into the bathroom and call 911 (something that should’ve been done A LONG time ago)…
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    I was freaking out in the bathroom

    “How is nobody doing ANYTHING about what’s going on,” I thought to myself

    There were motorcycle noises, including shots of rifles RIGHT outside. This medical staff must be mentally ill.

    “Hey, Peter, we need u to come out of the bathroom” The whole medical staff was outside the bathroom I was in
    “I got diarrhea, leave me alone”
    One of the guy nurses decided to unlock the bathroom (wtf) and placed me in one of those quiet rooms with chairs and a TV.

    It was chilly. I requested a blanket and tried to calm myself down/sleep.

    But then I heard it:

    “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!”
    I must have had psychosis at that point or maybe I was mishearing things but I heard the crowd outside, loud and clear.
    “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!”
    I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I couldn’t believe what was going on.

    The only thing I could do at that point was pray.

    I told God,

    “If it’s in my destiny to get killed, so be it. But please, if you can, protect me.”

    All of a sudden,

    The room was filled with cops… about 3-4 on one side, about 2-3 on the other side.

    You should have seen the look on the medical staff’s face; one of shame and saltiness, that this supposedly “crazy” person just out-smarted all of them. The medical staff was extra nice to me from that point forward.

    But it didn’t end there.

    I looked up the TV screen and I saw a man wearing all red, carrying some kind of weapon, walking towards me.

    So, I guess this person was going to kill me if it wasn’t for the split second decision to go into the bathroom to dial 911.

    I felt sick…. From looking up at the TV, to hearing the chants outside

    “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!” “We want Peter killed!!!”
    It felt like some dream… But I felt safe from that point..

    The next thing I knew, I was strapped in one of those roller seats and inside another vehicle and headed to another hospital…
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    Sounds like something out of one of the Bourne movies.

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    Should not have pissed of the Ministry for State Security my Friend.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

    Stay Strong!

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    So what happened next? Are you writing this from the second hospital?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsme View Post
    Should not have pissed of the Ministry for State Security my Friend.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

    Stay Strong!
    The Ministry for State Security can suck my dick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Sounds like something out of one of the Bourne movies.
    Yeah, it was exactly that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    So what happened next? Are you writing this from the second hospital?
    All good stories have cliff hangers
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    Tell me when you get shot.

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    paranoid schizophrenia is exciting!



    No cliffhangers, plz continue the story! (ง •̀_•́)ง

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    paranoid schizophrenia is exciting!



    No cliffhangers, plz continue the story! (ง •̀_•́)ง
    Here's a preview


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    Tell me when you get shot.
    that's it?

    weakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


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    LOL this thread.

    There are entire reddit communities devoted to targeted persons.

    Mostly its the dopamine function gone totally haywire in connection to the ego complex trying to defend the self from perceived harm. A break down of what is "self vs other". There are probably PTSD factors here.

    People are also targeted in reality, but most are not that special. Do not be naive here, organizations are fully aware that over active pattern seeking is seen as a mental illness and exploit the advantages this brings. Although, how often this happens for normal Joe Blow is probably minimal.

    Unfortunately the medical community in regards to mental health really lack much brilliance and glibly categorize everything they see out of the DSVM as a malfunctioning persons in relation to the greater accepted cultural norms. All delusions in their eyes are self reinforcing ones, then they right a medical script, maybe prescribe some probiotics, get said person into CBT and give them vitamin B.

    A ton of hack Uni trained psychologists and psychiatrists standing on the shoulders of giants here. The prevailing idea is that said broken persons are "suffering" from broken perception unit and each thought they have is mearly fantasma. Never mind internal logic. Jung was actually the most compassionate, as he penned out the concept of synchronicties in regards to the individuals self narrative. This gave room for a lot more grace and integrity. That bug that flew through the window and landing on the table held meaning in the dream scape.

    Author's such as Philip K Dick has explored this topic frequently.

    "Kill the Others" Reads the billboard sign, as the President tells you that if you see "the Others, you must be one of them." Gaslighting is not unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raTG13 View Post
    LOL this thread.

    There are entire reddit communities devoted to targeted persons.

    Mostly its the dopamine function gone totally haywire in connection to the ego complex trying to defend the self from perceived harm. A break down of what is "self vs other". There are probably PTSD factors here.

    People are also targeted in reality, but most are not that special. Do not be naive here, organizations are fully aware that over active pattern seeking is seen as a mental illness and exploit the advantages this brings. Although, how often this happens for normal Joe Blow is probably minimal.

    Unfortunately the medical community in regards to mental health really lack much brilliance and glibly categorize everything they see out of the DSVM as a malfunctioning persons in relation to the greater accepted cultural norms. All delusions in their eyes are self reinforcing ones, then they right a medical script, maybe prescribe some probiotics, get said person into CBT and give them vitamin B.

    A ton of hack Uni trained psychologists and psychiatrists standing on the shoulders of giants here. The prevailing idea is that said broken persons are "suffering" from broken perception unit and each thought they have is mearly fantasma. Never mind internal logic. Jung was actually the most compassionate, as he penned out the concept of synchronicties in regards to the individuals self narrative. This gave room for a lot more grace and integrity. That bug that flew through the window and landing on the table held meaning in the dream scape.

    Author's such as Philip K Dick has explored this topic frequently.

    "Kill the Others" Reads the billboard sign, as the President tells you that if you see "the Others, you must be one of them." Gaslighting is not unknown.
    best screen name ever

    Quote Originally Posted by raTG13 View Post
    LOL this thread.

    People are also targeted in reality, but most are not that special. Do not be naive here, organizations are fully aware that over active pattern seeking is seen as a mental illness and exploit the advantages this brings. Although, how often this happens for normal Joe Blow is probably minimal.
    A ton of hack Uni trained psychologists and psychiatrists standing on the shoulders of giants here. The prevailing idea is that said broken persons are "suffering" from broken perception unit and each thought they have is mearly fantasma. Never mind internal logic. Jung was actually the most compassionate, as he penned out the concept of synchronicties in regards to the individuals self narrative. This gave room for a lot more grace and integrity. That bug that flew through the window and landing on the table held meaning in the dream scape.
    Yup. Mental illnesses (such as depression) comes with the advantages of being more empathetic / being able to see details normies overlook. Many of the great leaders of our times had bipolar disorder / mental illness:

    --Sherman
    --Turner
    --Churchill
    --Lincoln
    --Gandhi
    --MLK
    --Roosevelt
    --Kennedy
    --H itler

    etc etc

    See "First Rate Madness" by Nassir Ghaemi

    Unfortunately the medical community in regards to mental health really lack much brilliance and glibly categorize everything they see out of the DSVM as a malfunctioning persons in relation to the greater accepted cultural norms. All delusions in their eyes are self reinforcing ones, then they right a medical script, maybe prescribe some probiotics, get said person into CBT and give them vitamin B.
    Lolz. Pretty much. Nobody really believes me (especially the doctors) when I tell them what happened.

    It's like no, I'm not being paranoid because I'm just crazy, I'm being paranoid because there was literally a dude with an assault gun walking towards me lol

    And yea, the cookie-cutter approach is really annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raTG13 View Post
    LOL this thread.
    I don't find it funny



    People are also targeted in reality, but most are not that special. Do not be naive here, organizations are fully aware that over active pattern seeking is seen as a mental illness and exploit the advantages this brings. Although, how often this happens for normal Joe Blow is probably minimal.
    Truly overactive pattern-seeking *is* a mental illness. It doesn't always have to be fully prevented because in certain psychotherapies you do make use of it, but overactive beyond a point is overactive. No two ways about it.


    Unfortunately the medical community in regards to mental health really lack much brilliance and glibly categorize everything they see out of the DSVM as a malfunctioning persons in relation to the greater accepted cultural norms. All delusions in their eyes are self reinforcing ones, then they right a medical script, maybe prescribe some probiotics, get said person into CBT and give them vitamin B.

    A ton of hack Uni trained psychologists and psychiatrists standing on the shoulders of giants here. The prevailing idea is that said broken persons are "suffering" from broken perception unit and each thought they have is mearly fantasma. Never mind internal logic. Jung was actually the most compassionate, as he penned out the concept of synchronicties in regards to the individuals self narrative. This gave room for a lot more grace and integrity. That bug that flew through the window and landing on the table held meaning in the dream scape.
    Jung probably wasted some time there with analysing bugs like that but I think getting out of such a state without medication does require a lot of time anyway

    I think it's stupid not to give medication to a psychotic person because they are unlikely to come out of it on their own unless they are like some fucking special genius

    Basically, the psychotic state is high stress for the brain, sure you could say it's trying to figure itself out, but it's still done under high stress load due to unfavourable circumstances, so it's really idiotic to not give medication to them to lessen that stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireee View Post
    The following is a story of what followed after posting an article on BLM a few months back

    Sorry, but my story will not be silenced. The purpose of me posting this is to exploit how many intolerant pussies roam these forums, behind the safety of their computer screen.

    I left out a TON of details, but this is the gist of what happened:

    Part I

    I thought it was just a regular day at work.

    I particularly loved this job; the location, the area, the people that I’ve worked with. Little did I know it’d also be my last day at work.

    All went well until during the day,

    I was visiting the forum and I see “Takedown” posting.

    It felt kinda suspicious because at the same time, people at work were

    acting “off:”

    –Co-workers hovering behind my back
    –Receiving strange mail that had a loud “bomb” beeper sound
    –Text messages getting deleted
    –Phone calls from Strange #s that repeatedly called
    –People with masks I’ve never seen before coming in
    –People with masks in their car waiting outside
    –The gate to close the shop was jammed
    –A software called “Drive uploader” was mysteriously installed onto my gmail.

    This was no coincidence.
    Correct, no coincidence. Memory failures, phenomena similar to "deja vu" and such.


    Some coordinated effort was happening in the background;

    Smoke screens, whistle blowers, fabricated stories weaved into similar stories, gaslighting, multiple characters, makeup artists, stalkers etc; these were all built-in and designed to confuse me.

    I decided to close early, and I sent my co-workers packing home early.

    I called the police and they escorted me out.

    All was well on the drive home except I noticed strange people following me in their vehicles.

    Was this paranoia?

    No because the next days that followed:

    –I got cyber-hacked…. (i remember the forum being completely silent that day)
    –A lot of shit happened hacking-wise, I'll leave the details out
    –I went to eat at Ihop and strange vehicles were circling around near us.

    At that point I was full of suspicion and I called the police again.

    An ambulance came (even though I resisted they kept insisting that I go
    get checked out)

    This was not paranoia that was baseless… But a sequence of events that justified
    this paranoia.

    I went to the hospital out of my will.

    On the way to the hospital, vehicles were following us (sounded like motor-cycles),
    they threw rocks at the vehicle.
    Sounds like misinterpretation of sensory information getting mixed up.


    Later I was seen by the psychiatrist.

    I told her everything that happened, but by the look on her face, I could tell
    she wasn’t buying anything I was telling her.
    She probably had similar evaluations to the above.

    Though this story would be pretty good for a fiction book too if you want some compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpyvic81 View Post
    I don't find it funny
    I say funny in a non-funny sarcastic sense.

    Truly overactive pattern-seeking *is* a mental illness. It doesn't always have to be fully prevented because in certain psychotherapies you do make use of it, but overactive beyond a point is overactive. No two ways about it.
    Absolutely. When it becomes a debilitation then it needs treatment. That's not to say there isn't some insight there, are we not training computers to compute strings of causes for us? This is why drug induced psychosis is a tragedy, you get the vision, but you fry your circuits, and add in PTSD which triggers paranioa, and everything becomes circumspect. Thats a frightening way to live, no way around that. You can't even trust your own internal logic at that point, even if what you see is true, you would be required to actively IGNORE it as a way out of paranoia.

    Example
    -->
    Somebody is out to get "me". "I" need to protect "my"self. Everything that goes wrong, or bad, was about "me". "I" am causing the bad things to happen. "Others" see "me" (through the mind), and are "looking at me" through my thoughts. And so on.

    There are people that suggest this state is a failed Enlightenment. And conversely, a degraded enlightenment, and if its early adult on-set, a failed development. Or something of the sort. In the end, fear underlies this all and its triggered by high alert pattern seeking. A person cannot even trust their own mind, even if they are correct, or incorrect. It almost doesn't matter either way. Ultimately they are both frozen in place, and stimulated to movement. They can't "be" in relation to the people, world, and system around them, and so are "broken" in a pragmatic sense. And this is in part true, one must fit in, in order to survive.



    Jung probably wasted some time there with analysing bugs like that but I think getting out of such a state without medication does require a lot of time anyway
    Ya he might have, but at least he opened the door. Same way Freud did when he showed us that childhood carries forward throughout the entire life of a individual.

    On this note, we used to think that it was God speaking to us through individual sign and symbols. Jung might have understood that people's own window of perception bring forth the signs the unconscious speaks to the conscious, and can do so through the awake state. I have been led to believe its a marriage of the two. Spooky action at a distance and I think we are only just starting to explore this with the science apparatus. There are alpha types, such as Rupert Sheldrake that discuss the possibility of the "bicameral mind." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)

    So, the problem lies thusly: is the external, non-casual world effected by x factors outside of our knowledge of them, does the outside world outside our minds and bodies have the ability to metaphysically change reality outside of the known mechanical means.... or, does our psychology expand into ways far more powerful then we give them credit, or is it a marriage of the two? Because, the phenomena of a a-casual seemingly effecting the casual through synchronicity DOES happen, and it happens to many people, right, and I think its at least worth a look at instead of outright assuming, through epistemological ways, that it's pure fantasy.

    Do I REALLY effect reality through my conscious/unconscious thought, or, is my mind only THINKING its doing this?
    Science has not answered this question. I can tell you it thinks it has. In my view, it hasn't. People are to afraid of a post-physical explanation and it comes with to much "God" baggage.

    In the same way, it cannot even explain what dark matter and energy are, or why mass warps space-time, or why looking at the results changes them, or how particles appear and disappear, and on and on.

    I agree to do it on your own without drugs is the challenge, but it's not impossible. Funny enough, the internet can and does bring you what you need to see. The spirit ghost, sorry, I mean algorithms are that good now. The method? Ignore what you see, and return to nature. Nature is the medicine, as corny as that sounds.

    I think it's stupid not to give medication to a psychotic person because they are unlikely to come out of it on their own unless they are like some fucking special genius
    If the emotional turmoil becomes so great the person cannot even function, then by all means give them a sedative to at least give the organism a fucking break from the mind. But remember, this is a band aid only, as the majority of pharmaceuticals are.
    User beware, these drugs come with their own consequences that will be adding to the hardship in the end. Nothing comes for free. Nothing. You get the relief, but also get the inevitable consequences they bring. That is not a moral statement. Things are the way they are. The "system" is not set up to be equipped for harmony. Its edict are all about efficiency and speed of treatment.

    Basically, the psychotic state is high stress for the brain,
    Yikes, right? Those of us in the know have seen it. But, maybe there is a plan here, and maybe some things were meant to happen. Emotions are the energy of change, and the energy of remaining the same.

    sure you could say it's trying to figure itself out, but it's still done under high stress load due to unfavourable circumstances, so it's really idiotic to not give medication to them to lessen that stress.
    Sure, but that is where I'm sure the vast majority of University trained technicians stop. There isn't enough brilliance, or insight to go further, although I'm sure most think they are doing it.

    I'm intrigued by the use of psilocybin, as well as ayahuasca. I think society deserves its new shamans, and not as some hokee, woo bullshit. The solutions are going to have to be multifaceted and staged for the person. And we are going to have to start thinking in terms of many seasons of time passing to get there. It won't happen over night. I think realistically you are looking at about 8-12 different seasons of time passing with working on it. A grouping of seasons in this context is winter to spring, spring to summer, summer to fall, and fall to winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raTG13 View Post
    Absolutely. When it becomes a debilitation then it needs treatment. That's not to say there isn't some insight there, are we not training computers to compute strings of causes for us? This is why drug induced psychosis is a tragedy, you get the vision, but you fry your circuits, and add in PTSD which triggers paranioa, and everything becomes circumspect. Thats a frightening way to live, no way around that. You can't even trust your own internal logic at that point, even if what you see is true, you would be required to actively IGNORE it as a way out of paranoia.

    Example
    -->
    Somebody is out to get "me". "I" need to protect "my"self. Everything that goes wrong, or bad, was about "me". "I" am causing the bad things to happen. "Others" see "me" (through the mind), and are "looking at me" through my thoughts. And so on.

    There are people that suggest this state is a failed Enlightenment. Or something of the sort. In the end, fear underlies this all and its triggered by high alert pattern seeking. A person cannot even trust their own mind, even if they are correct, or incorrect. It almost doesn't matter either way. Ultimately they are both frozen in place, and stimulated to movement.
    Yeah, there is a view that psychosis is a version of transformation and healing but I really think it's at best only an attempt of the brain to do so, while under high stress. The higher the stress and the less external help, the less guaranteed for the attempt to actually do a healing transformation much.


    Ya he might have, but at least he opened the door. Same way Freud did when he showed us that childhood carries forward throughout the entire life of a individual.
    For sure


    On this note, we used to think that it was God speaking to us through individual sign and symbols. Jung might have understood that people's own window of perception bring forth the signs the unconscious speaks to the conscious, and can do so through the awake state. I have been led to believe its a marriage of the two. Spooky action at a distance and I think we are only just starting to explore this with the science apparatus. There are alpha types, such as Rupert Sheldrake that discuss the possibility of the "bicameral mind." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)

    So, the problem lies thusly: is the external, non-casual world effected by x factors outside of our knowledge of them, does the outside world outside our minds and bodies have the ability to metaphysically change reality outside of the known mechanical means.... or, does our psychology expand into ways far more powerful then we give them credit, or is it a marriage of the two? Because, the phenomena of a a-casual seemingly effecting the casual through synchronicity DOES happen, and it happens to many people, right, and I think its at least worth a look at instead of outright assuming, through epistemological ways, that it's pure fantasy.
    I do think our own psychology is very powerful and that we don't still understand a whole lot about it. Clicked on that link but this bicameralism theory doesn't seem logical in that to believe it you'd have to completely abandon evolution theory


    Do I REALLY effect reality through my conscious/unconscious thought, or, is my mind only THINKING its doing this?
    Science has not answered this question. I can tell you it thinks it has. In my view, it hasn't. People are to afraid of a post-physical explanation and it comes with to much "God" baggage.
    Well either you believe in a tangible reality out there around you or you don't


    In the same way, it cannot even explain what dark matter and energy are, or why mass warps space-time, or why looking at the results changes them, or how particles appear and disappear, and on and on.
    Gonna take time to explain the entire universe


    I agree to do it on your own without drugs is the challenge, but it's not impossible. Funny enough, the internet can and does bring you what you need to see. The spirit ghost, sorry, I mean algorithms are that good now. The method? Ignore what you see, and return to nature. Nature is the medicine, as corny as that sounds.
    I don't know what this method involves specifically.


    If the emotional turmoil becomes so great the person cannot even function, then by all means give them a sedative to at least give the organism a fucking break from the mind. But remember, this is a band aid only, as the majority of pharmaceuticals are.
    Yeah a band-aid of course, but it's needed


    User beware, these drugs come with their own consequences that will be adding to the hardship in the end. Nothing comes for free. Nothing. You get the relief, but also get the inevitable consequences they bring. That is not a moral statement. Things are the way they are. The "system" is not set up to be equipped for harmony. Its edict are all about efficiency and speed of treatment.
    Well the system gives us what we want.....popping a pill is so much easier for most people than going deep in therapy and introspection and correcting thinking errors and processing emotions and so on


    Yikes, right? Those of us in the know have seen it. But, maybe there is a plan here, and maybe some things were meant to happen. Emotions are the energy of change, and the energy of remaining the same.
    Sometimes this is true


    Sure, but that is where I'm sure the vast majority of University trained technicians stop. There isn't enough brilliance, or insight to go further, although I'm sure most think they are doing it.
    Getting insight that works out logically and is implementable in practice takes time.



    I'm intrigued by the use of psilocybin, as well as ayahuasca. I think society deserves its new shamans, and not as some hokee, woo bullshit. The solutions are going to have to be multifaceted and staged for the person. And we are going to have to start thinking in terms of many seasons of time passing to get there. It won't happen over night. I think realistically you are looking at about 8-12 different seasons of time passing with working on it. A grouping of seasons in this context is winter to spring, spring to summer, summer to fall, and fall to winter.
    With serious psychiatric conditions it does need years to get better I imagine

    I can't comment on the drugs stuff

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