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    Default Stackemup Typology (Socionics-Side) Lays Out The Core Tenets Of American Socionics

    American Socionics asserts and underscores Three Core Tenets.

    1. Jung, not Aushra

    The nuts and bolts of Jung's definitions for the functions control in Socionics. The core differences from MBTI is that in Socionics Jung's functions are organized under model A, so Jung's functions are filtered through different roles.

    Russian Socionists, mainly Aushra and her students, have essentially refused to give Jung his proper due as the pioneer, father and definer of all the functions used in Socionics and engaged in a good deal of historical revisionism. They are seeking to usurp Jung's definitions of the functions with Aushra's definitions of the functions. That's fine, but don't call it Socionics and nobody needs to be legitimizing it as socionics.

    Gulenko, for example, has conceded the point. After an extensive study, he published a paper which essentially concluded that the functions used in both MBTI and Socionics have its origin in Jung's definitions. The Aushra wing of Russian Socionics regards his paper as a type of heresy.

    American Socionics doesn't need to conduct a study into that question. Its blatantly obvious. These are Jung's functions, Jung's definitions. The major innovation here is the organization of JUng's functions into Model A. The Aushra wing of Russian socionics is the most prominent in not wanting to give Jung credit for being first in time to identify and define the functions. In American socionics, people who deserve the credit get the credit, so we give Jung credit for being first in time to identify and define the functions because he was the first in time to identify and define the functions.

    That makes sense, right. If you come up with a new theory of intertype relations, American Socionics will credit you for it. The Aushra wing of Russian Socionics might try to lay claim to your theory as something they came up with.

    2. VI, not conjecture

    For decades, Russian socionists have been trying to crack the VI templates for every socionics type and subtype. I mean, yeah, Aushra has VI templates. Socionics.com has VI templates. But they were terrible.

    Stackemup Typology (socionics-side) has cracked the valid VI templates for every socionics type and subtype.

    Socionics New Wave (Stackemup Typology) (socionics) on Pinterest

    Click here for more information on my VI templates.

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-VI-Templates

    3. Cognition, not Behavior

    Socionics pertains to information metabolisms. It speaks to cognition. However, at a certain point, perhaps due to being confined to its own one-dimensional, one typology closed universe, a lot of Russian Socionists began invading the domain of behavior and personality.

    A good example of this is founded in russian socionics' conflation of Si with Type 9....You see it in so many descriptions and discussions.

    Given that Stackemup Typology ushered in the era of the typology multi-verse, avoidance of allowing situations to disturb one's mental tranquility is pure enneagram nine. Nines negate the impact of their actions through the defense mechanism known as isolation. They disassociate...it allows them to be aggressive without really having to experience the impact of that aggression. For example, in this Coronavirus epidemic, you will find a lot of e9s positively reframing the pandemic so as to avoid having to attribute blame to any one person or country. (Said positive reframing keeps them out of touch with having to experience Anger).

    But now if you're reading certain serious Russian Socionists, what I just described all falls under the nature and scope of Si.

    Take the attribution of avoidance to Si. Avoidance is behaviorally-related rather than cognition-type related...because the crux is 'to avoid', to avoid disturbing situations. To avoid is a behavior, so, thus, does not infer any particular cognition and has no significance socionically. People with vastly different styles of cognition can engage in avoidance. Yet, this was the direction Si and moreso SEI ended up becoming taken in.

    This is an overall problem. The nature and scope of descriptions for functions in Russian Socionics has become excessively broad and accorded to itself unfettered access into domains of enneagram type. The nature and scope of descriptions for functions in American Socionics is more specific and focused on cognition.

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    You make it sound like stackemup typology is some kind of original authority in the socionics realm, but it looks like it's just a pinterest updated by you and nobody else. What's the point in making it sound like a society if it's just one person with no particular recognition?
    It's your interpretation of socionics, not something new. It's like the socionics equivalent of the "CognitiveType" system, except for the fact that it's sloppier.

    This is the impression you give. If it doesn't correspond to how it's supposed to be, I suggest you to create a proper website and start writing something instead of just posting tons of questionable pictures on pinterest with no explanation.

    You present your thoughts as if they were objective truths and you don't really seem to question yourself. There's plenty of people who like to listen to people like you so they don't have to take responsability for their thought. You got the potential to do something, but making such posts won't really help.

    I expect something more from a person who says he's the new wave of american socionics.

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    The following are not core tenets of American Socionics, but are considered significant (each point on its own could fill pages):

    1. Stackemup Typology (Socionics-Side) recognizes Smilexian Socionics and Socionix as early settlers of American Socionics.

    2. Although a lot of Expat's better ideas came from the early settlers of American Socionics, American Socionics has no affiliation to expat (Smilingeyes used to bury Expat in socionics debate years back)

    3. I cracked HotelAmbush and the merry band of anti-Jungians in debate years ago whey they tried to topple the First Tenet of American Socionics.

    4. I demolished Soupman in debate when Soupman tried to argue the positoin of fake socionics that Trump is SEE.

    5. Russian Socionics is stuck in the past with dilapidated VI templates.

    6. My VI templates is the Nuclear Weapon of Socionics. Russian Socionics is still playing with toy missiles.

    7. World Socionics doesn't exist. American Socionics does not fall under the umbrella of world socionics. There is no "world socionics."

    8. The world of Socionics is divided up into American Socionics and Russian Socionics.

    9. American Socionics is True Socionics. Russian Socionics is Fake Socionics.

    10. Stackemup Typology (Socionics-side) was formerly Socionics New Wave.

    11. Stackemup Typology [(Socionics-side)(Enneagram-side)] ushers in the Era of the Typology Multiverse.
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    Hmmm I know, let's call this "Socionics with American characteristics".

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