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    Hey! I am interested in your research. Always wondered what Sociotypes had got to do with the Vedic Nakshatras and didn't really find anyone finding the correlation between them on the internet other than your post here. You can add this to your list, mine has always fluctuated between INFP and INFJ however recent test typed me an LII-INTj. Personally though I have been going through changes in perspective and am confused and lost while making decisions but want to know myself better. Would be great to know what you think of this!

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    I know that there is no correlation between astrology and Socionics type, but here are my guesses about which stereotypical zodiac sign matches each Socionics type.

    Alpha Quadra:

    ILE: Aquarius or Gemini

    LII: Aquarius

    ESE: Libra

    SEI: Taurus or Libra

    Beta Quadra:

    SLE: Aries

    LSI: Virgo or Capricorn

    EIE: Leo

    IEI: Pisces

    Gamma Quadra:

    LIE: Capricorn

    ILI: Scorpio

    SEE: Leo

    ESI: Virgo or Cancer

    Delta Quadra:

    LSE: Capricorn or Virgo

    SLI: Taurus

    IEE: Sagittarius or Gemini

    EII: Cancer





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    SEI. Enneagram 2 or 6 idk.

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    I can't believe I just discovered this.

    What is the goal of this post though? Say our nakshatra and what our type is?
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    I can't believe I just discovered this.

    What is the goal of this post though? Say our nakshatra and what our type is?
    What is nakshatra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    What is nakshatra?
    Nakshatras are 27 subdivisions of the Vedic astrological chart. While Indian astrologers don't use the western zodiac wheel, it has been used in conjunction with it in modern times.

    Its a long story but the link below should help provide a better answer.

    https://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/astrology/nakshatras-constellations/

    Astrosage is a good site to find out what your birth chart is in the vedic system.

    https://www.astrosage.com/
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Nakshatras are 27 subdivisions of the Vedic astrological chart. While Indian astrologers don't use the western zodiac wheel, it has been used in conjunction with it in modern times.

    Its a long story but the link below should help provide a better answer.

    https://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/astrology/nakshatras-constellations/

    Astrosage is a good site to find out what your birth chart is in the vedic system.

    https://www.astrosage.com/
    Thank you, these links seem useful. I’ve been trying to learn more about astrology just for fun but haven’t made much progress lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Thank you, these links seem useful. I’ve been trying to learn more about astrology just for fun but haven’t made much progress lol.

    IMO if you want to get started on astrology I wouldn't start with Indian astrology since its very complicated and a little different from western astrology.

    A good astrology reference site to look at is astro.com they have a lot of free information and you can create your birth chart on there for free.

    https://www.astro.com/horoscope
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by eiemo View Post
    I know that there is no correlation between astrology and Socionics type, but here are my guesses about which stereotypical zodiac sign matches each Socionics type.

    Alpha Quadra:

    ILE: Aquarius or Gemini

    LII: Aquarius

    ESE: Libra

    SEI: Taurus or Libra

    Beta Quadra:

    SLE: Aries

    LSI: Virgo or Capricorn

    EIE: Leo

    IEI: Pisces

    Gamma Quadra:

    LIE: Capricorn

    ILI: Scorpio

    SEE: Leo

    ESI: Virgo or Cancer

    Delta Quadra:

    LSE: Capricorn or Virgo

    SLI: Taurus

    IEE: Sagittarius or Gemini

    EII: Cancer

    Here are mine:

    Alpha Quadra:

    ILE: Aquarius (Ne sub) or Aries (Ti sub)

    LII: Gemini (Ne sub) or Virgo (Ti sub)

    ESE: Libra (Fe sub) or Taurus (Si sub)

    SEI: Leo (Si sub) or Aries (Fe sub)

    Beta Quadra:

    SLE: Capricorn (Ti sub) or Leo (Se sub)

    LSI: Capricorn (Ti sub) or Libra (Se sub)

    EIE: Taurus (Fe) or Cancer (Ni)

    IEI: Aquarius (Ni) or Aries (Fe)

    Gamma Quadra:

    LIE: Capricorn (Te) or Libra (Ni)

    ILI: Pisces (Ni) or Leo (Te)

    SEE: Gemini (Se) or Scorpio (Fi)

    ESI: Taurus (Fi) or Cancer (Se)

    Delta Quadra:

    LSE: Sagittarius (Si) or Pisces (Te)

    SLI: Gemini (Si) or Scorpio (Te)

    IEE: Leo (Fi) or Pisces (Ne)

    EII: Libra (Fi) or Taurus (Ne)

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    On the topic: I suspect each nakshatra carries the energy of a particular type. Say, Rohini for example, could carry SEE-Se energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eiemo View Post
    I know that there is no correlation between astrology and Socionics type, but here are my guesses about which stereotypical zodiac sign matches each Socionics type.

    Alpha Quadra:

    ILE: Aquarius or Gemini

    LII: Aquarius

    ESE: Libra

    SEI: Taurus or Libra

    Beta Quadra:

    SLE: Aries

    LSI: Virgo or Capricorn

    EIE: Leo

    IEI: Pisces

    Gamma Quadra:

    LIE: Capricorn

    ILI: Scorpio

    SEE: Leo

    ESI: Virgo or Cancer

    Delta Quadra:

    LSE: Capricorn or Virgo

    SLI: Taurus

    IEE: Sagittarius or Gemini

    EII: Cancer
    When are people going to leave the Libra = SF meme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QamsX View Post
    When are people going to leave the Libra = SF meme?

    Dunno, but I know two ESIs who are Virgos. The Virgo description that I've read is similar to Stratiyevskaya's description of ESIs, IMO.

    I'm an Aries, by the way. Hard to imagine a Capricorn LIE. Lol. Maybe an LIE-Ni.

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    Try to guess my sign dear astrology experts

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    Quote Originally Posted by qaz00 View Post
    Try to guess my sign dear astrology experts

    Capricorn.

    And I don't even believe in Astrology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qaz00 View Post
    Try to guess my sign dear astrology experts

    Which one?
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Which one?
    Doesn't matter, anything you want. I'm testing accuracy of this doubtful and undeservedly popular ancient typology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qaz00 View Post
    Doesn't matter, anything you want. I'm testing accuracy of this doubtful and undeservedly popular ancient typology.

    Lol the accuracy may vary with the absence of all birth information. I think just by guessing your approximate age you have Uranus in Aquarius.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    Lol the accuracy may vary with the absence of all birth information. I think just by guessing your approximate age you have Uranus in Aquarius.
    That's just guessing my age, not proving predictive power of astrology.

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    Pisces Sun/Pisces Moon/ Virgo Rising

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    Satabhisha Nakshatra


    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Inhabiting the realm of Aquarius, Satabhisha nakshatra, ruled by the planetary power of Saturn and divine power of Varuna; symbolizes spiritual and physical healing. The lunar node of ‘Rahu’ also has its influence on Satabhisha nakshatra.[/COLOR]
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    Nakshatra Malayalam Tamil Telugu Hindi
    Shatabhisha ചതയം (Chatayam) சதயம் (Satayam) శతభిష (Satabhisa) शतभिषक् (Shathabhishak)

    [/COLOR]
    Basic information about Satabhisha Birth Star

    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Also known as the ‘veiling star’; Satabhisha nakshatra involves the general characteristics of mysticism, spirituality, secretive vision apart from healing. The star symbol of ‘empty circle’; representing this nakshatra pertains to the realm of illusory perception or ‘maya’. Attraction for the cosmic reality and a mysterious inclination towards concealment are the other general characteristics of Satabhisha nakshatra. Etymologically connoting the concept of medication or ‘bhesaja’; Satabhisha nakshatra influences varying forms of aquatic life.[/COLOR]
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    Yeah, I suppose it's time to get the thread back on topic lol.

    My Sun and Ascendant signs are in Bharani.

    My Moon is in the Shravana Nakshatra.

    I have Rahu in Vishakha and Ketu in Krittika.
    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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    My rising sign changes between Vedic and regular astrology. I will pick whichever one suits me better and/or makes me feel more special lol:

    - Scorpio sun
    - Aquarius rising
    - Taurus moon

    or

    - Scorpio sun
    - Capricorn rising
    - Taurus moon

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    All my signs change in Vedic astrology.

    In Western:
    Pisces sun
    Libra moon
    Virgo rising

    In Vedic:
    Aquarius sun
    Virgo moon
    Leo rising

    I usually stick with western since it just seems easier to me and I fit Pisces sun, Libra moon so much. I also have my moon in the 1st in Western astrology which would totally change in Vedic. Also Vedic seems to be a lot harder to understand and get used to.

    Side note: When I first looked into socionics I was like "the way how IEIs are described is such a stereotypical Pisces". And I would say Pisces and Libra are the two types that correlate with SEI to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eiemo View Post
    I know that there is no correlation between astrology and Socionics type, but here are my guesses about which stereotypical zodiac sign matches each Socionics type.

    Alpha Quadra:

    ESE: Libra
    Spot on if I'm ESE

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    I know it's been a very long time but, i've always been curious about the correlations between different personality typing systems. Reminds me of when I stumbled upon this quiz about angel numbers and how they relate to our personalities. It was eye-opening to see the connections it drew. If you're intrigued by personality correlations, you might find this quiz insightful too: https://angelnumbersinfo.com/quiz. Who knows what interesting insights you might uncover.
    Last edited by ThomasWalsh; 03-25-2024 at 08:40 AM.

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    Oh, so finally something up my alley on this forum, LOL.

    If anyone wants to find some correlations between personality typing in different systems and astrology, then you should probably not go by Sun sign, but by Ascendant, then check the Ascendant lord, and see where the other big 3 are in your chart: Sun and Moon, and see the rulerships. So, for example - I'm a Libra Sun, Gemini Moon, Scorpio Rising in Tropical/Western astrology. My chart is ruled by both Pluto in the First House (intensity) and Mars in 9th House in Cancer (less driveful). My Sun in whole signs system is in 12th House, which emphasizes the isolation. Moon is in 8th House, which makes my mind and how I see the world through careful "digging".

    However, in Vedic/Sidereal Astrology, I'm a Uttaraphalguni/Virgo Sun, Rohini/Taurus Moon, Svati/Libra Lagna. Those are my Nakshatras for each placement from the big 3. You're supposed to mainly look into the Moon sign, as it is the most important in Vedic Astrology.

    Now, the Rohini Moon might make me more inclined towards sensuality, but I don't think this interpretation resonates. Though, it being in 8th Bhava/House makes tons of sense, since my emotions and mind usually run deep. It's also the placement of researchers, which I'm pretty good at.
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    I'm an Aries here, that doesn't even make sense for me

    For my moon, it's Cancer, which again doesn't make sense

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