A thread to record random IRL conversations between EII's and LSE's.
EII/LSE Conversations
A thread to record random IRL conversations between EII's and LSE's.
Overheard in a Kroger store.
The twenty-something female EII behind the counter was talking to her workmate.
"I made an entire plate of food, but I only ate half of it."
Passing older male LSE: "That's because you're wasteful!"
EII, sarcastically "Yeah, that's the reason."
I told my LSE friend that I just want to work a job that I actually want. He told me "You think I like my job?!" implying that I should just take any job I can get. I told him he choose to work his job, so if he doesn't like it he could choose to work somewhere else. He then goes off on me about how he didn't choose to work there but he did it to man up and take care of his mother. It kinda turned into a little argument after that. But if that isn't classic Fi vs Te idk what is.
@aster, he's right, of course. Basic math only uses zeros and ones.
me: gets ice cream
hubs: looks in shopping bag "this is for me!"
me: don't eat it all in one sitting; goes for a walk - 10 minutes; comes back
hubs: I ate the ice cream you got ME.
me: you weren't supposed to eat all of that
hubs: it was only a pint besides it was for ME.
-
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
(EII) Crossed paths with a particularly brash LSE because my friends play flag football and I join them from time to time.
1st conversation-
He was trying to herd a bunch of tipsy people and failing. Caught up with him and said, "What do you want?"
LSE: "What? Why do you care?"
EII: "They won't follow you unless you give them a reason"
LSE: "I'm trying to take them to pocha (Korean drink/food place)"
EII: "Then, say that instead"
LSE: "Oh"
Few months later-
Predictably, he noticed my attraction to another player (SLI) and cornered me. I didn't want him to getting involved, so I bluffed.
EII: "What if you are the one that I like?"
LSE: "What? You like me? Since when?"
EII: "So then?"
LSE: "Well, you are objectively attractive- everyone knows that
... but..." (for the record, I am average at best)
EII: "I'm not your type because I'm not Asian, right?"
LSE: "Well, yes"
EII: have no reason to be upset, but feels like a bee sting to the face
Conversations between LSE/EII
Apologies if there's already a similar thread. Couldn't find one.
specimens:
(best friends)
28 y/o EII male
29 y/o LSE male
LSE: Have you ever confronted anyone EII?
EII: Uhhhh what-what- You mean confrontation as in this dude yesterday said I sucked at *random thing (forgot)* so I told him that's not good advice and I thought it was just rude.
LSE: Would you be open to the idea of insulting people like that?
EII: In-Insulting people? Like randomly?
LSE: No, like, 'you're an idiot,' and 'I don't want to talk to you again.'
EII: *flustered* Ummm
LSE: Or like, 'you're lowering the average IQ of this room.'
EII: You would tell him that he's lowering the average IQ of the room?
LSE: Yes.
EII: *laughs* No, I.... don't think I've ever done anything that-that- Look look, LSE, just because he was rude doesn't mean I want to do it back to him.
LSE: No, no, no. Some people who are rude need to be put in their place.
EII: *slightly shocked exhale*
LSE: You know, people have a place in the world. Have you ever heard the phrase, 'know your place.'
EII: Yeah, it's usually a little mean sounding. I- I don't like it, it's....
LSE: Well it's a quote because there's some truth in it. And by some truth, I mean a lot of truth. Some people have their place.
EII: Uh huh
LSE: And some people DON'T know their place. And they have to be PUT in their place every now and then.
EII: Riiiiight, but I'm sure other people can do the deed and...
LSE: Okay EII, let's say one of your friends is mean to another one of your friends. What do you do?
EII: I message both of them and try to make them feel better.
LSE: Yeah, but one person is being realllllly unreasonable. What would you do?
EII: Yeah I would message them and try to understand why. Typically when someone's very unreasonable, they just had a very bad day. It's pretty rare for someone to go, 'wow, I had a great day. Time to go pick on this guy.' Usually they had a tough day. They were feeling bad, didn't have enough food to eat or something. And then they take it out on someone, and I'm not saying that makes it okay. But what I'm saying is, it's rarely ever the happy people who are unreasonable. It's usually people are going through something... it doesn't make it okay! It doesn't make their behaviour okay but I feel like they're already going through some bad stuff already. It doesn't excuse the mean behaviour, but I feel like it's people who go through the worst that also act worst, y'know.
LSE: I can see that. Yeah I can see that. You know one time...
*not the end of the convo but I forgot the rest*
some yin and yang shit y’all
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-ConversationsOriginally Posted by Cybel
they can probably be merged
This reminds of my EII mom. Typical conversation.
EIE: This person is really pissing me off. He's a fucking idiot. Why are people so rude?!
EII: Maybe he's just having a bad day. Did you reach out to him to find out what really happened?
EIE: No. The person is just being stupid. But I guess you have a point.
EII: Maybe you can reach out to him when you feel better or not.. whatever you decide.
EIE: Oh ok.
thanks mod
LSE: You can't bang a personality.
~
LSE: Recently I went through *something bad* and I put it on social media. So I get messages from girls saying, "You're a nice guy," or, "You're a great guy-"
EII: And they're right about it, 'cause you really are
LSE: Yeah shutthefuckup.
EII: *laughs*
LSE: Then they share their own bad experiences with me, like in a heartfelt manner, and it's very-
EII: That means they trust you.
LSE: So 50% of my DMs are girls sliding in and 50% of the girls messaging me are like, people trying to share intimate negative experiences they had. So I have this weird- so it's like this weird dichotomy and I'm really worried about responding to the wrong DMs with the wrong kind of response.
EII: Oh! I'm just gonna say it- you're afraid you're going to hit on a girl that is feeling really sad.
LSE: *giggles* Haha yeah.
EII: *laughs* Well that just shows how considerate you are and that you really just want to make people comfortable, right?
LSE: *serious tone* What I'm trying to say is... I thought I would be happy if I had girls DMing me but I don't feel... it. It's very superficial sense of fulfillment.
EII: Right.
LSE: I feel like DMing will never make me interested in girls.
EII: You heard it here first! *jokingly* Don't DM LSE or it's over.
Last edited by Tzuyu; 12-12-2020 at 04:18 AM.
This seems like a kind of conversation I would have with an LSEthanks mod
LSE: You can't bang a personality.
~
LSE: Recently I went through *something bad* and I put it on social media. So I get messages from girls saying, "You're a nice guy," or, "You're a great guy-"
EII: And they're right about it, 'cause you really are
LSE: Yeah shutthefuckup.
EII: *laughs*
LSE: Then they share their own bad experiences with me, like in a heartfelt manner, and it's very-
EII: That means they trust you.
LSE: So 50% of my DMs are girls sliding in and 50% of the girls messaging me are like, people trying to share intimate negative experiences they had. So I have this weird- so it's like this weird dichotomy and I'm really worried about responding to the wrong DMs with the wrong kind of response.
EII: Oh! I'm just gonna say it- you're afraid you're going to hit on a girl that is feeling really sad.
LSE: *giggles* Haha yeah.
EII: *laughs* Well that just shows how considerate you are and that you really just want to make people comfortable, right?
LSE: *serious tone* What I'm trying to say is... I thought I would be happy if I had girls DMing me but I don't feel... it. It's very superficial sense of fulfillment.
EII: Right.
LSE: I feel like DMing will never make me interested in girls.
EII: You heard it here first! *jokingly* Don't DM LSE or it's over.
LSE to EII: You're really bad at self-preservation.
EII: My dog and I might be related.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
Finding the right-fit dual was damn hard, but grateful to have been with LSE for a year.
TDLR; I got a rare pepper from a chef friend (LIE) who smuggled the seeds into the country and I wanted to gift it to chef boyfriend (LSE). But, he dropped off the earth for 2 weeks (among other issues), and we had a phone call to clear things up.
LSE: "I didn't know something was wrong"
EII: "hjjhfdsjhfvdjhfjhs..... don't treat valued relationships like this.....dshduhsd"
LSE: "You're right. It's my fault. I didn't mean to make you feel sad or disrespected. I'm not going to do that again."
Later-
EII:"....(changed behavior blah blah) that I need from you. What do you need from me?"
LSE: "I need you... to eat carbs. They are essential for optimal body function."
We were both in agreement and at ease by the end-
EII: "So, do you want the pepper then?"
LSE: "Of course, I'm going to eat that shit"
EII: "One bite?"
LSE: "Uh huh.."
EII: "Sweat all over your body with a fiery bathroom trip later?"
LSE: "...twerking.. my ass"
EII: (I laughed a lot)
LSE: "I'll twerk for you if you let me try your cooking"
EII: "My cooking? Nah, nah- bad idea"
LSE: "Test day is coming, EII. Get ready for it."
EII: "Is that the deal we are making?"
Last edited by sojourn; 10-08-2021 at 10:58 AM. Reason: poor grammar lol
Me: *asks somewhat vague but earnest question about a topic that was LSE's field of study*
LSE: *lights up and begins talking*
LSE: *decides he's been too specific, backs up and adds more context*
LSE: *even more context and how it ties to the original question*
Me: *eyes start glazing over*
LSE: *more explaining, with improvised diagrams involving coasters and placemats*
Me: *internally wonders if there's a better way to ask the same question to get a quicker answer*
LSE: *examples and anecdotes, each with their own explanations*
Me: *lays head on table*
LSE: *brief concerned expression*
LSE: *finishes rabbit trail #42*
LSE: Does that make sense?
Me: I have to pee.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
Aw man, Minde- this is adorable, but also, this is too real haha!!LSE: *more explaining, with improvised diagrams involving coasters and placemats*
Me: *internally wonders if there's a better way to ask the same question to get a quicker answer*
LSE: *examples and anecdotes, each with their own explanations*
Me: *lays head on table*
LSE: *brief concerned expression*
LSE: *finishes rabbit trail #42*
LSE: Does that make sense?
Me: I have to pee.
God these read like the uncanny valley of conversations for me. Hell with the tone of a kids TV show.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
