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    Ah yes, the Se PolR type that organizes thousands of people to rally for a cause out of idealism
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    Ah yes, the Se PolR type that organizes thousands of people to rally for a cause out of idealism
    The LII does not tolerate any manifestations of abuse and arbitrariness, since he considers these to be the origin of unfairness and injustice and, consequently, the original cause of all misfortunes and evils.

    Being the intolerant opposer of any unfair, in his opinion, and based on abusive force dictatorships, the LII tries to instill everywhere his own “dictatorship of fairness”, that is based on raising the quality of “ethically fair” self-awareness. Abusive force in such a dictatorship is applied only to those who are unable for some reason to bring up this quality in themselves, that is, only towards the “predators”.

    The LII considers that volitional influence is justifiable if it is just and fair.

    The LII condemns any abuses of power, force, and influence. He does not tolerate crude pressuring, authoritativeness, and commanding tone and resists any attempts at forceful influence – both volitional and ethical.

    The LII is critical of any methods of crude and petty influencing. It is impossible to subordinate him to volitional pressure. Any attempt to pressure him inevitably leads to a conflict. The LII does not yield to crude force even if it presents a threat to him life. He won’t allow to humiliate himself, to be “taken by his throat” – better he will die.

    The LII won’t allow for others to encroach on his rights – he immediately demonstratively resists this (as a kind of preventive measure).

    The LII not only does not tolerate and endure volitional pressuring, but he also tries to safeguard himself from any forceful actions. While at this, the measures the LIIs undertakes to shield and protect himself often exceed the measure of influence exerted on him. For example, the LII may refuse to help with a minor service simply because he assumes that such service may become a part of the “system of relations”, and then his acquiescence and concession will become the norm of behavior for everyone else, and this will be unfair towards him.

    Protection of his territorial rights is also an important issue for the LII. The LII is ready to look however inhospitable, impolite, unfriendly, and inconsiderate, but he won’t allow a stranger to enter into his house with his “trunk forward”. The LII is wary of any uninvited and unwanted visitors, because they “steal” his time, his resources, his space and infringe on his personal freedom.

    The LII feels himself defenseless in situations of sudden volitional pressure that he hasn’t been able to foresee and account for. In such cases, the LII often acts in an excessively and unjustifiably yielding manner, which he analyzes regretfully later on and tries to hence forth be more farsighted and prudent, and not repeat the same mistake.

    The LII fears giving any precedent or reason for volitional action towards himself; therefore he sometimes looks a person without any weaknesses (“Iron Felix“). Dislikes when someone else plays on his weaknesses. Cannot tolerant wimps, complainers, does not allow to evoke pity in himself (the LII dislikes “cheap” emotional tricks).

    The LII does not allow himself to show force towards a weaker person. He tries to influence by words and by persuasion. Physical punishment is used only as the most extreme measure.

    For LII it is difficult to talk in a commanding tone. Imperious intonations are not characteristic of him. Although, if he loses his temper and flares up, he may say unduly sharp and harsh things.

    He does not tremble before his bosses and supervisors, but holds himself with dignity and does not fawn before them. (“I’d love to serve. Servility is what I hate.”*) If someone raises his voice at him, he immediately “tunes out” and “disconnects”. Often an impression arises that he doesn’t even react to the charges that are presented to him.

    * Editor’s note: a quote from Alexander Griboyedov’s play Woe from Wit. Translation by A. Vagapov.

    The LII demonstratively ignores intrusive advice and moralizations. He’s especially wary of, and dislikes, those who “always know how everything should be”. The LII finds it very difficult to insist on something, be assertive – he knows all too well that this is not his method. For him it’s always unpleasant to demonstrate his power, will, determination. He never allows himself to be intrusive and does not like this quality in others.

    Usually feels uncomfortable whenever his volitional qualities are discussed by strangers. As a rule, he tries to avoid talking about it. Fighting for his rights requires the LII to constantly overexert himself, which, in turn, often leads him to physical fatigue, a condition that is very unpleasant to him and which he tries to avoid. Regulates his level of strain: tries to know his own strength and capabilities, resists being overloaded, and tries to rest in time when he feels that his energy is running out (self-preservation instinct). The LII resists even an oversaturated entertainment program.

    When LII’s dual ESE becomes his partner, the problems of overload, overexertion, volitional pressure and defense get resolved in the most natural way: the ESE energizes the LII with his own energy and activity, constantly maintaining his emotional and physical vitality. The ESE encourages the LII, doesn’t let him become apathetic, provides him with a very flexible routine of physical and emotional exertion, and keeps him in a state of optimal activity and excitement.

    The ESE is the only one who can very precisely and naturally stimulate LII’s activity, the only one who can easily stir him up, get him fired up, get a reaction out of him and entertain him. The ESE can easily relax the LII and calm him down, can create optimal conditions for the LII to work and rest fully.

    Defending LII’s interests, ideas and views, the ESE can easily overcome even those difficulties that seem most insurmountable. When the ESE and the LII defend justice, barriers and obstacles simply do not exist for them. As history shows, LII’s ideas easily gain popularity with the support of ESE’s volitional pressure.

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    Fits pretty well doesn't it? You don't know shit.

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    do you expect me to read that wall of nonsense? you could use your brain once in a while instead of parroting random descriptions. how the fuck a type like me is supposed to care about big projects or movements when I can barely focus on reality for 5 minutes at a time is beyond me.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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