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  • ILE (ENTp)

    6 22.22%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    0 0%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    0 0%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    0 0%
  • IEI (INFp)

    1 3.70%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    13 48.15%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    2 7.41%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    1 3.70%
  • ILI (INTp)

    0 0%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    2 7.41%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    0 0%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    1 3.70%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    1 3.70%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    0 0%
  • EII (INFj)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    wowwwwww. If you think it's pointless to explain typings, why do you even bother giving your opinion? This is a great way to avoid intellectual accountability.
    Please. You can't have intellectual accountability without reasonable, factually coherent standards in practice for distinguishing sensible arguments from the senseless.

    There aren't any such standards on this forum. As it stands, all type arguments boil down to one personalized POV vs. another's personalized POV. Everyone sees whatever they want see, evidence be damned.
    ok, everyone knows that socionics is not super-scientific but plenty of people are able to communicate their reasoning for types, whereas you just say "oh, it's obvious" or "this has a Te vibe to it". When what you go on is "vibes" and "feels" I can understand why you would think socionics is all subjective. And if it really is as subjective as you think it is then there is no reason to even tell us what your typings are, since no one is going to listen to you. But there is plenty of material describing information elements and such, that one can always refer back to.

    Kinda makes sense that a person recently diagnosed with cancer and realizing the end of their mortality, would talk about death. Don't you think?
    Reread the article: Jobs was preoccupied with his mortality long before he was diagnosed with cancer.

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    Gilly's on a Beta NF rampage against "Ashtonians" and Delta NF again

    I've got Steve Jobs as Fe-EIE too; hell, that "1984" Apple ad's enough in and of itself for me to nail Beta NF typing down and lean to EIE. The wearing of the same clothing style for over a decade points me right to Polr, the manner in which he presents things with all of that grandiosity and all points me to Beta, and the subtype I got by mostly taking into account a charisma so powerful that the phrase "reality distortion field" is used in reference of it, a little bit by how I find him, more than the average of all people I know well enough to go off of, to talk as if in front of an audience moreso than to talk directly to people (which indicates Accepting subtype), and a good deal of my typing just kinda came from the gut...

    Hell, come to think of it, that Apple ad isn't too dissimilar to Gilly's sentiments towards the "Ashtonian" menace:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    Right now I myself have been labeled an EII by Ineffable
    Right now he's 0 and 13, oh hell yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    He typed me LIE. He could be wrong.
    He typed Galen LSI, Hydrangea SLE, k0rpsey SEE, put me and nanashi together in IEE, and typed assloads of people as their Duals it wouldn't be the first time, and it sure as hell won't be the last...
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    If you want a comparison of Steve Jobs to an actual ENFj in a position of power, why not compare Steve Jobs to Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, Martin Luther King or Carly Fiorina?

    All of them are quite different from Steve Jobs, right?

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    Howsabout Mr. Adolph?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Also Ghandi was in no way EIE
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1e View Post
    Right now I myself have been labeled an EII by Ineffable
    Right now he's 0 and 13, oh hell yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    He typed me LIE. He could be wrong.
    He typed Galen LSI, Hydrangea SLE, k0rpsey SEE, put me and nanashi together in IEE, and typed assloads of people as their Duals it wouldn't be the first time, and it sure as hell won't be the last...
    This is funny... but I wonder why it's happening? I wonder why he notices particular things jumping out at him and giving him the 'Aha!' moment. I just wonder what it is that he's seeing, and how he defines it. But yeah... it'll happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Howsabout Mr. Adolph?
    How about no? He's a terrible example of any type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    I've got Steve Jobs as Fe-EIE too; hell, that "1984" Apple ad's enough in and of itself for me to nail Beta NF typing down and lean to EIE. The wearing of the same clothing style for over a decade points me right to Polr, ...
    I had the same -PoLR issue with a girl I knew from middle school. We were in middle school in the late 80's and early 90's. She still has exactly the same shoulder-length bob hairstyle that she had back then, to this day, and I always hated it. I love to watch hair as it progresses and changes, and I love long hair, so she's triggering my ultimate pet peeve. I finally understood it when I figured out that she was EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Howsabout Mr. Adolph?
    How about no? He's a terrible example of any type.
    Unfortunately, I can't give a link or a reference to this. There was some show that I watched on The History Channel or something, many years ago, where they talked about this one guy who was a major big Nazi person, I have absolutely no idea what his name was - and anyway, they talked about all the different drugs he was using. He was using all these extreme stimulant drugs and cocaine and stuff.

    This is important to know. Prescription psychiatric drugs cause people to commit murder-suicides, such as the Columbine High School bombing, and it's just as likely that 'recreational' drugs caused the Nazis to be as insanely violent and murderous as they were. I'm not saying that people are incapable of committing murder unless they use drugs. However, rampant drug use in a group of people in power could cause them to become insanely violent to an extreme the way the Nazis were. It changes their entire way of feeling, so that they become incapable of feeling anxiety and guilt, and all that they feel is an intolerable, unbearable restless irritation and discomfort called akathisia.

    So it is not merely something about a particular personality type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Howsabout Mr. Adolph?
    How about no? He's a terrible example of any type.
    Lol are you kidding me? He's as close to an archetypal EIE as Hamlet.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post

    How about no? He's a terrible example of any type.
    Lol are you kidding me? He's as close to an archetypal EIE as Hamlet.
    In his personal life, yeah you might be right but there're much better examples such as Nelson Mandela and MLK Jr.

    Also, if you don't think Ghandi is EIE what type do you think he is?

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    Haha, ENFjs are awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    If ******'s not good enough, how about Black ******?

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    lol. The guy standing behind him (to his right) looks like an alien. Look at his head.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post

    Also, if you don't think Ghandi is EIE what type do you think he is?
    IJ-Ne, EII>LII.
    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Right now he's 0 and 13, oh hell yeah
    He's got one right, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Right now he's 0 and 13, oh hell yeah
    He's got one right, at least.
    Of the ones I explicitly mentioned, you and him agree on none

    I looked at your list and his list. As of August 30, 2:22 AM Eastern Daylight time, obviously only counting instances in which you and him both typed the same person, his typing matches yours 10 times, and his typing mismatches yours 14 times.

    Why would you defend someone who, by your own standards, is only correct 41.7% of the time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post

    He's got one right, at least.
    Of the ones I explicitly mentioned, you and him agree on none

    I looked at your list and his list. As of August 30, 2:22 AM Eastern Daylight time, obviously only counting instances in which you and him both typed the same person, his typing matches yours 10 times, and his typing mismatches yours 14 times.

    Why would you defend someone who, by your own standards, is only correct 41.7% of the time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post

    Also, if you don't think Ghandi is EIE what type do you think he is?
    IJ-Ne, EII>LII.
    Yeah, EII would be the next logical choice. Good job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    If ******'s not good enough, how about Black ******?

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    Because we're trying to move past assigning type to war criminals which poisons the type which is exactly what you're accomplishing by posting rabble that like, you're skewing the perception of the types heavily and very negatively.
    Last edited by MisterNi; 08-30-2011 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post

    Of the ones I explicitly mentioned, you and him agree on none

    I looked at your list and his list. As of August 30, 2:22 AM Eastern Daylight time, obviously only counting instances in which you and him both typed the same person, his typing matches yours 10 times, and his typing mismatches yours 14 times.

    Why would you defend someone who, by your own standards, is only correct 41.7% of the time?


    That table should be changed - I most certainly do not type you as ILI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
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    That table should be changed - I most certainly do not type you as ILI.
    I think it's hard to say since ESC usually only posts in technical threads. What type would you type ESC as then if not ILI?

    Also, we should probably move this to a new thread since this one's about Steve Jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    That table should be changed - I most certainly do not type you as ILI.
    I think it's hard to say since ESC usually only posts in technical threads. What type would you type ESC as then if not ILI?

    Also, we should probably move this to a new thread since this one's about Steve Jobs.
    LII

    edit: I guess ESC will now forever doubt my credibility, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
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    poli Ive never really seen you give an explanation for anything, it does makes a lot of what you say seem mindlessly parroted or off base. it's almost like you're allergic to reason.
    Actually, poli frequently explains himself (recent example off the top of my head), and does so in his own words. You may not like his explanations, but it's false to say he never gives them.

    You're just doing some bullshit of casting aspersions on a motherfucker in an attempt to publicly smear them.

    Vague allusions to information elements don't qualify as explanations to any reasonable person
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    nice ad hominem though ;p
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    Vague allusions to information elements don't qualify as explanations to any reasonable person
    Those aren't vague, really. The language is probably a little derailed for someone who has a completely different understanding of the functions and doesn't grasp why its being said. ie. if you know , then you know that its concepts tend to revolve around and deconstruct direct facts and empirical observations, and in doing so arrive at others, which does not hold a typing of SEI in too much favor. I could very simply draw out every detail for you like a painting you can hang on your wall. I'll just copy it from Jung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    I'll just copy it from Jung.
    Wait, so remind me, CAN you think for yourself or not?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Who's "we"?
    We as in the socionics community

    And I disagree that it 'poisons' the type
    Well then you'd be very wrong.

    —type portrayals should be inclusive of all shades of human character and conduct.
    They should, but they frequently aren't. Hence the focus on more positive aspects first then moving on to more contentious aspects later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond View Post
    FWIW:

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    Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big
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    The First Story is About Connecting the Dots.

    I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed
    around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So
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    It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed
    college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She
    felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so
    everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his
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    Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they
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    And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college
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    After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I
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    saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it
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    it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I
    could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and
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    It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the
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    Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy
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    Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I
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    None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life.
    But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh
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    It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never
    dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never
    had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows
    just copied the Mac, it's likely that no personal computer would have them.

    If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this
    calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful
    typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots
    looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear
    looking backwards ten years later.

    Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect
    them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow
    connect in your future. You have to trust in something--your gut,
    destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and
    it has made all the difference in my life.

    My Second Story is About Love and Loss.

    I was lucky--I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started
    Apple in my parents' garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10
    years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2
    billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our
    finest creation--the Macintosh--a year earlier, and I had just turned 30.

    And then I got fired.

    How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we
    hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with
    me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions
    of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When
    we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And
    very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was
    gone, and it was devastating.

    I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let
    the previous generation of entrepreneurs down--that I had dropped the
    baton as it was being passed to me.

    I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for
    screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought
    about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn
    on me--I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not
    changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And
    so I decided to start over.

    Fired From Apple

    I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple
    was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of
    being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner
    again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most
    creative periods of my life.

    During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another
    company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would
    become my wife. Pixar went on to create the world's first computer
    animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful
    animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple
    bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at
    NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I
    have a wonderful family together.

    I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired
    from Apple. It was awful-tasting medicine, but I guess the patient
    needed it.

    Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm
    convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I
    did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work
    as it is for your lovers.

    Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way
    to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the
    only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found
    it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart,
    you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just
    gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you
    find it. Don't settle.

    My Third Story is About Death.

    When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: 'If you live
    each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right.'

    It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I
    have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: 'If today were
    the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do
    today?' And whenever the answer has been 'No' for too many days in a
    row, I know I need to change something.

    Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever
    encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost
    everything--all external expectations, all pride, all fear of
    embarrassment or failure--these things just fall away in the face of
    death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are
    going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you
    have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to
    follow your heart.

    Diagnosed With Cancer

    About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer.

    I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my
    pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me
    this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I
    should expect to live no longer than three to six months.

    My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is
    doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids
    everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just
    a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it
    will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.

    I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy,
    where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and
    into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells
    from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that
    when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying
    because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that
    is curable with surgery.

    I had the surgery and I'm fine now.

    This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the
    closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now
    say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful
    but purely intellectual concept:

    No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to
    die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one
    has ever escaped it.

    And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single
    best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old
    to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too
    long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away.
    Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life.
    Don't be trapped by dogma--which is living with the results of other
    people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out
    your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow
    your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want
    to become. Everything else is secondary.

    When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole
    Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was
    created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park,
    and he brought it to life with his poetic touch.

    This was in the late 1960s, before personal computers and desktop
    publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and Polaroid
    cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before
    Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools
    and great notions.

    Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog,
    and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue.

    It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their
    final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind
    you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous.
    Beneath it were the words: 'Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.' It was their
    farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I
    have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin
    anew, I wish that for you.

    Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.

    Thank you all very much."

    The Stanford (University) Report June 14, 2005


    Type please??
    Holy shit I've been on this board for so long! 2005??

    Reading this quote I have no idea on his type.....ILE?

    ILE

    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    There are 2 camps:

    ILE vs EIE

    Those who vote ILE do so out of impressions. Those who vote EIE do so out of justification.

    I go with the former, EIE just requires too much thinking to justify.

    ILE->Innovation, Vision, Essence, Meaning, Significance, Importance, Possibilities
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
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    the sun
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    love
    dreams larger
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    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
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    A couple years ago I was put in charge of decorating the college for Valentine's Day. I made some gorgeous, fancy decorations from construction paper, glue, scissors, and imagination. Then I covered a couple cabinets with them. But my favorite was the diagram of a human heart I put up. So romantic!

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    You're an idiot
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    There are 2 camps:

    ILE vs EIE

    Those who vote ILE do so out of impressions. Those who vote EIE do so out of justification.

    I go with the former, EIE just requires too much thinking to justify.

    ILE->Innovation, Vision, Essence, Meaning, Significance, Importance, Possibilities
    No. Those who vote EIE do so out of not being morons.

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    The ILEs want him because he's a nerd.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    The ILEs want him because he's a nerd.
    They can have Gates maybe. Jobs is way too good and natural with Fe to be ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    The ILEs want him because he's a nerd.
    They can have Gates maybe. Jobs is way too good and natural with Fe to be ILE.
    Gates is fine as ILE I think. I dunno, I havent done much research into him, I know Rick thinks he is LIE, but ILE could work. I haven't examined him closely at all.

    The ILEs are just dying to claim someone who has good Fe and is nerdy and smart yet successful and famous. They do the same thing to me
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post

    They can have Gates maybe. Jobs is way too good and natural with Fe to be ILE.
    Gates is fine as ILE I think. I dunno, I havent done much research into him, I know Rick thinks he is LIE, but ILE could work. I haven't examined him closely at all.

    The ILEs are just dying to claim someone who has good Fe and is nerdy and smart yet successful and famous. They do the same thing to me

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    It's true! ArchonAlarion/Jake and JRiddy have both been up my butt for AGES about it. I've gotten even Ashton to see reason a couple of times but those two just freaking NEED me
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post

    They can have Gates maybe. Jobs is way too good and natural with Fe to be ILE.
    Gates is fine as ILE I think. I dunno, I havent done much research into him, I know Rick thinks he is LIE, but ILE could work. I haven't examined him closely at all.

    The ILEs are just dying to claim someone who has good Fe and is nerdy and smart yet successful and famous. They do the same thing to me
    Hmm, I've kicked around ILE for Gates too.

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