LIE or ILE (video typing)?

[Zero]

https://youtu.be/sKiXxUjSDvc
This is Wren Weichman. Is he LIE or ILE or some other type even? He talks like me and has very similar facial expressions specially the eyes! But I'm not as excited about video editing.

[Exodus]

fun vs stress ( vocab)
enjoying group emotional experiences
enthusiasm about new tech
amazing
the physical experience of driving
open and collaborative atmosphere
...

Seems like an Alpha extrovert to me.

[Adam Strange]

He seems like an extrovert with Fe. EIE, maybe? His face shows pretty much everything that he is feeling.
His enthusiasm for new tech points toward ILE, but I've seen an EIE do the same thing.

I don't think he is LIE. LIE's just don't seem that giddy, even when presenting ideas that they really like.

[Soupman]

He's too emotive and non threatening, Alpha SF - most likely, leaning SEI the energy is subjued

[Zero]

fun vs stress ( vocab)
enjoying group emotional experiences
enthusiasm about new tech
amazing
the physical experience of driving
open and collaborative atmosphere
...

Seems like an Alpha extrovert to me.

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

[Zero]

He seems like an extrovert with Fe. EIE, maybe? His face shows pretty much everything that he is feeling.
His enthusiasm for new tech points toward ILE, but I've seen an EIE do the same thing.

I don't think he is LIE. LIE's just don't seem that giddy, even when presenting ideas that they really like.

No EIE is not his type, I believe. I envy his enthusiasm about tech and his ability to make the audience enthusiastic about tech also.

[Zero]

He's too emotive and non threatening, Alpha SF - most likely, leaning SEI the energy is subjued

He is an extravert for sure

[Exodus]

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

It depends. Some are animated, others are more subdued. I'd have to watch more to see if it was lead or mobilizing.

[Zero]

It depends. Some are animated, others are more subdued. I'd have to watch more to see if it was lead or mobilizing.

He is more animated for sure. But he has Fe mobilizing and not leading

[Soupman]

He is an extravert for sure

Sociability Ranking-1.jpg

I find this table extremely helpful, sensory types are extroverted whilst intuitives are introverted when it comes to observable behaviour.

Now when an intuitive behaves in an extroverted manner that is just the superego display, the same applies for sensory types.

His energy is not high - a specific feat missing from the graph but it is a useful heuristic.

[Exodus]

He is more animated for sure. But he has Fe mobilizing and not leading

Why?

[Zero]

Why?

He is a logical type I think. Been watching his vlogs for some time. Do you think he is ethical?

[Zero]

Sociability Ranking-1.jpg

I find this table extremely helpful, sensory types are extroverted whilst intuitives are introverted when it comes to observable behaviour.

Now when an intuitive behaves in an extroverted manner that is just the superego display, the same applies for sensory types.

His energy is not high - a specific feat missing from the graph but it is a useful heuristic.

Interesting point. But I still believe he is extroverted

[maniac]

nvm

[Exodus]

He is a logical type I think. Been watching his vlogs for some time. Do you think he is ethical?

No -- you obviously know more about him than the people in this thread, so I was just trying to encourage you to provide some observations as evidence. So again, why logical?

[The Reality Denialist]

First I can hear very clear attachment to direct life experiences. So my guess is neither.

[FDG]

Could be either, but he's a bit more animated than most LIEs or ILEs.

[The Reality Denialist]

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

Pretty much uncontrollable but it is more like other dimensional. It is not really that related direct experiences. You'd pretty much run bunch of interpretive stuff in your head.

[Zero]

Pretty much uncontrollable but it is more like other dimensional. It is not really that related direct experiences. You'd pretty much run bunch of interpretive stuff in your head.

So what type do you think he is? An ethical type?

[Zero]

Could be either, but he's a bit more animated than most LIEs or ILEs.

Yes that is why I am not sure

[Zero]

No -- you obviously know more about him than the people in this thread, so I was just trying to encourage you to provide some observations as evidence. So again, why logical?

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

[FDG]

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

LIEs are also enthousiastic, it´s one of the main descriptors in socionics, but he is fairly animated, well he could just be a fairly animated person irrespective of type (in enneagram he seems to be an E-7)

[Zero]

LIEs are also enthousiastic, it´s one of the main descriptors in socionics, but he is fairly animated, well he could just be a fairly animated person irrespective of type (in enneagram he seems to be an E-7)

Good point. So you think he is LIE?

[FDG]

Good point. So you think he is LIE?

No, I´ve got the same doubt you have...

[Exodus]

I think I would somewhat prefer ILE over ESE. He does seem to have a lot of stamina and enthusiasm for talking about the "boring" technical aspects of his work:



And is maybe a little bit more hesitant and distractable than I might expect from an ESE.

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

Actually, it is common for ILEs to be really dedicated to projects and their work, possibly even more than LIEs. ILEs tend to be more focused on conveying their passion for it to others (say, by making a Youtube video about it).

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PS: this thread should be in the Famous People forum.

[Zero]

I think I would somewhat prefer ILE over ESE. He does seem to have a lot of stamina and enthusiasm for talking about the "boring" technical aspects of his work:



And is maybe a little bit more hesitant and distractable than I might expect from an ESE.



Actually, it is common for ILEs to be really dedicated to projects and their work, possibly even more than LIEs. ILEs tend to be more focused on conveying their passion for it to others (say, by making a Youtube video about it).

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PS: this thread should be in the Famous People forum.

Yes I am not very open to everyone about my work
Plus he is not that famous

[Delilah]

I'm trying to type some people at random to counter bias.

So...how about LSE? I did also consider SLI but seems so far people are bucking it for some reason (?)

[Sol]

has very similar facial expressions

To identify your type is needed your video.

By messages you remind F.
an example of funny question

[BrainlessSquid]

LII-Ne

[Zero]

To identify your type is needed your video.

By messages you remind F.
an example of funny question

wow kinda creepy to quote a question like that, which I had asked when I was 18 ha ha. need to rethink privacy matters here, hence why standoffish regarding video typing.
yeah I would still ask the same question tho. Know quite a few ideologues and religious folks who have trouble finding the loopholes in their own beliefs and but do well at school (uni entrance exams and scholarships and standard stuff like that) while for example Einstein sucked at school. Think that question came up back then among friends and I could not agree with the "hard assignment" which for example Peterson stands for. I myself studied at a special school due to gifted IQ back in home country, but was not the best student in many courses which were not interesting for me and I'm sure many would have thought I'm an idiot for thinking outside the box most of the time (naturally you fail at times when learning by trial and error)

In any case, good reminder but sorry don't need affirmation for my type even if it would mean others not accepting it (why would it benefit me if you thought I am indeed whatever type? that's not my task)

[nifl]

wow kinda creepy to quote a question like that, which I had asked when I was 18 ha ha. need to rethink privacy matters here, hence why standoffish regarding video typing.

Qny of your activities, such as posts, are data in considering your type.
T, E & Te, so especially leading Te such as LIE, are unlikely to have a recoiling reaction to the usage of this by others.

[Zero]

Qny of your activities, such as posts, are data in considering your type.
T, E & Te, so especially leading Te such as LIE, are unlikely to have a recoiling reaction to the usage of this by others.

recoiling mockery of a sound question by calling it "funny" goes against Te and possibly gamma values then in your opinion? it's not "raw" data to mock other people's questions and doubt their type by doing so.

[ILuv2Ho3]

Not sure about yor specific type, but looking at Weichman, my impression of him is that he is very good at modulating his emotional expression, it comes naturally, and is also very gentle in how he treats others, the eyes look sort of emotional and his demeanor is lively, yet there is also some hint of sadness or melancholy in his eyes, as if the secretly has some sort of discomfort, pain or whatever of that sort and hopes someone will notice and take care of him, again, gently. Regardless of his enthusiasm for technical stuff, his eyes, voice intonation, looks ethical. His personal grooming and aesthetic presentation is basic, not much meticulosity went into it, not very aware of it. My guess is ENFP.

[qaz00]

Not sure about yor specific type, but looking at Weichman, my impression of him is that he is very good at modulating his emotional expression, it comes naturally, and is also very gentle in how he treats others, the eyes look sort of emotional and his demeanor is lively, yet there is also some hint of sadness or melancholy in his eyes, as if the secretly has some sort of discomfort, pain or whatever of that sort and hopes someone will notice and take care of him, again, gently. Regardless of his enthusiasm for technical stuff, his eyes, voice intonation, looks ethical. His personal grooming and aesthetic presentation is basic, not much meticulosity went into it, not very aware of it. My guess is ENFP.

Good points, but to me his expressions seem exaggerated in a way I see in alpha Fe types and there's some tension and jerkiness. I see more Fe domination of emotional atmosphere than Ne curiosity driven exploration. C-ESE-Fe>D-IxE-Ne

Interview with possible IEE for comparison: