The title is self explanatory; I'm curious about knowing about other Fi-IEEs, both fictional and real life.
The title is self explanatory; I'm curious about knowing about other Fi-IEEs, both fictional and real life.
Last edited by inabox; 08-19-2016 at 12:58 PM.
some of the best people in the world
introverted iees omg
stole my heart once at least
ellen degeneres might be one
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Maybe Wouter Andre "Wally" De Backer also known as Gotye.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...hp/39124-Gotye
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I believe bell hooks is a Fi-IEE; I've seen videos where she had interactions with Hari Kondabolu (ENTp her kindred) and Cornel West (EIE-Fe, her quasiidentical) and she comes off very IEE. But she has a very Fi take on her Ne theories .
@Director Abbie has subtyped me as Fi-IEE, after having known me awhile and observing me in person. The description of Fi below is really good.
What at would you like to know about Fi-IEEs?
Fi is generally associated with the ability to gain an implicit sense of the subjective 'distance' between two people, and make judgments based off of said thing. Types with valued Fi strive to make and maintain close, personal relationships with their friends and family. They value sensitivity to others' feelings, and occasionally will make their innermost feelings and sentiments known in order to test the possibility of creating closeness with others.
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Bridget Jones is like the caricature of a Fi-IEE (haha, that overexaggerated Ti polr) 6w7-9w1-4w3 so/sx ; Mark is 1-5-3 sp/so Te-SLI <3 .
Last edited by inabox; 08-24-2016 at 09:05 AM.
@Suz, I just looked up Marc Darcy's MBTI type, because that speech he gave in that scene you linked above sounded like it could have come straight out of my own mouth, and it seems people consider him to be INTJ. But I think he is LIE. At least, in that scene he is LIE. When the woman snapped her fingers at him to hurry him up, I knew she was all done.
(This is off topic but: ermm, lol no. Darcy's definitely not even LIE in that scene; people who value Si-Ne will 'obey' Se dom/auxes if only to make peace (heck often it's just to make peace as as is the case with Darcy in that scene), the difference, of course, is that we don't enjoy (we might appreciate it on objectively, sometimes) Se displays like Ni victims. Also Darcy is very clearly Fe polr over Fe role.)
I am with her when it comes to feeling like an idiot most of the time. It's like I bumble through life and blurt out inane rambly things and just hope that people don't find me utterly ridiculous. The worst is when I like someone romantically, but don't (yet) have a relationship with him, and I literally trip over curbs, run into poles, and bring a fan into a room where there already is (an identical) one. Or find myself incapable of opening the car door with a remote key thingy while he looks on from his car...or tumble into the gap between the bed and the wall. I have scars everywhere...
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
@Kim , need a hug from an IEE? You know we give some of the best hugs. Imma give it to you anyway
McKayla Maroney...IEE-Fi 6w5 sp/sx
Added: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/
Jarrod Ramos...IEE-Fi 1w9 sp/sx
This parasite clearly fits the VI template for IEE-Fi:
Compare to my SP/SX IEE-Fi examples Maroney (6w5) and 50 Cent (9w8) here: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/
Core Type One Motivation/Drive: Revenge
Scott Dozier...IEE-Fi 3w4-6w5-8w7 sp/so
Both the 3w4 and the 7w6 are in the assertive grouping. The main difference between 3w4 and 7w6 is that 7w6 is a lot more mercurial/"bipolar" (mood-cyclers), ooze of nonconformity/subversion and work best in environments that lack structure. The 3w4 is more image oriented and present a more consistent persona. Now a dense flathead would type somebody like Stu Ungar a 3w4 because Ungar took pride in being the best at poker and was incredible at it. That's only how somebody with a superficial, cookiecutter grasp of the various enneagram types would see it...upons closer inspection, there is no type of deception in presentation by Ungar that would make you think this person is phony in some way and he's not always presenting the poker persona. When he says he's the best, he's stating a fact that pretty much anybody who knows poker will agree with. Upon deeper review, he's a nonconformist, a subversive....there's no rule in nature that says people motivated to subvert can't be the best or most talented at something. Dozier on the other hand has a classic deceptive, image-oriented, intentionally calibrated 3w4 kinesthetic.
He's not an 8...his kinesthetic isn't dominant/willful but more interpersonally calculating, deceptive, chameleonic, slimy, and seeming eager to calibrate to his interlocuter -- the rattlesnake; scorpio. He hedges his bets on everything he says. like the inflections in his voice have an air of guessing, estimating, ruminating, speculating...Anyways, super clear Image triad > gut triad
As an IEE-Fi, he has a cognition for interpersonal dynamics and mirroring others -- working more through others by trying to plant ideas and throw out hints about what he means etc.
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Katherine Fauvre...IEE-Ne 6w5-1w2-3w4 sp/sx
Perfect catch for the IEE-Ne template:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-ne/
This is an easy one. Her kinesthetic is not self-confident enough for a 3 or an 8. She's not in the assertive triad. Obvioulsy she's not an 8 if she's an IEE (that combination doesn't exist and can't exist...eight is the type lowest in emotional/cognitive empathy and highest in power-seeking, so Fi or Fe in an ego block is not possible....furthermore the eight personality would never see itself as an F even if it were possible) She looks cautious, worried, restrained and tight-lipped (keeping one eye open -- the self-protective solution)….certainly not a gut type and not an image type. 3w4s carry a much lighter expression on their faces that belies the coolness of an advertisement. She doesn't have a willful kinesthetic. Her kinesthetic is vigilant/self-protective/guarded. She also self-types as a sx 8 and calls sx 8 devotion. Devotion is the main preoccupation/drive of the 6w7.
Edit: Actually, that's a better description for the 6w5 kinesthetic. Overall better fit for 6w5 sp/sx.
Typing shortcuts for novices:
Socionics deals with Cognition...the typing shortcut are the physical structure of the eyes, which has enough variation to accommodate the expressions of the different stackings.
Stackings deals with General Behaviors that don't conflict with core features/traits of the enneagram types....the typing shortcut is to look for the expression in the eyes
Enneagram deals with Personality (motivation, worldview, defense mechanisms, drives, specific - unchanging behaviors/patterns)....the typing shortcut is physical expression/kinesthetic.
Last edited by Kill4Me; 07-16-2018 at 10:39 PM.
I, personally, never agree with Kill4me's assessments. However, his speech patterns can come off as IEE or Delta NF; I found myself relating to it, somewhat. However, I have seen Beta NFs sometimes having similar speech patterns (ie mirroring emotions, being comfortable abstract ideas like death in the manner that Scott was etc).
Brene Brown...IEE-Ne 2w3 sp/so
Hillary Clinton...IEE-Ne 1w9 sp/so
Socionics: Cognition, Enneagram: Kinesthetic.
the 2w3 kinesthetic carries IEE-Ne cognition quite easily but the rigid 1w9 kinesthetic is not the greatest match.
Keith Raniere...IEE-Fi 9w1 so/sp
For an example of the 9w1 kinesthetic running on SLE-Se cognition, see my Joseph Kony addition to the SLE examples thread over in the Beta Quadra sub-forum.
Tom Condon is a good example of an IEE-Fi sp/sx.
Last edited by Kill4Me; 04-12-2019 at 02:35 PM.
( @applejacks , hey there, I'm also a Fi-IEE . )
My favourite author, David Sedaris, is an Fi-IEE I believe, he might be an 6w7-4w3-? sp/sx; his partner, Hugh Hamrick, is probably Te-SLI .
I'd like to say dr quinn medecine woman but she's kind of a hybrid delta nf plus shades of lie at times
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Tom Hiddleston, Jimmy Fallon.
Jimmy Fallon is very, very Ne. I see him being Ne-IEE; his interaction with Si-ISTp Nicole Kidman was the cutest thing I had seen in a long, long time.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
And Tom Hiddleston is some kind of Beta NF (he's 'dating' a Se-ESTP Swift, shrugs).
Cameron Esposito may be Fi-IEE; Rhea Butcher has Fe polr mannerisms, she maybe Te-SLI (probable duality ).
I think Zoe Kazan is Fi-IEE and Paul Dano is Ni-INFp; there's something very moving and strangely heartwarming about seeing extinguishment couples in long term relationships.