Hm, I don't think an IEI would seek out a gym membership based on their own natural preferences. Both Ni and Fe are not particularly concerned with physical appearances, nor challenging themselves physically. I believe it is the Si pressure and Se seeking that makes certain IEIs and ILIs go to the gym. On their own, without that kind of pressure and without any need of a Dual, they would not care too much.
Add to that the fact an image type in the Enneagram makes IEIs more concerned with their appearance, as well as societal pressures (esp. when female) – all of this puts an even stronger pressure on their Role Si.
In that manner, it should not be surprising that female IEI E2/ 3/ 4s will be found in a gym, more often than any other type of IEI or even ILI in general (most of them are neither image-types nor female).
Most IEI's are above avarage concerened with their looks and looks of others. I agree though that Ni Fe isn't naturally a particularly physical combination. I had like 10 different gym memberships in my life and used to be (unhealthily) obsessed with gym as to spend several hours there each time. Atm I'm trying to get back on track from a long lazy spell tsk tsk. Some IEI's find gyms too mainstream though and prefer to excercise in other forms - some sort of weird modern dance, walking through the woods or Wii (if exercising with Wii doesn't make you feel like a huge nerd, then I don't know what will : ))
Ti subtype SLE can be pretty shy and avoidant about relationships. They can be very distrusting and somewhat insecure. It can take time before people open up.
Also people have maybe a strange understanding of sexual styles.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
My ILI ex built a gym in my garage and he also trained me. He had more motivation than me since he wanted to keep up with me, physically, when we were together. When we broke up he took most of the equipment with him. He left it all to me when he died so I don't go to the gym. I got to the garage or family room where I have everything I need. I will go days without working out. Sometimes weeks and then I wake up with motivation. I don't think it makes much of a difference in me. I can see more definition but I don't want a visible 6 pack and if I work out too much I can see every muscle in my stomach. I don't like it.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Alright. I suppose my observation regarding Ni leads and their exercise habits mostly applies to Self-pres blindspot Ni types, then.
All you Sp instinct IEIs got really upset over me suggesting fitness is not natural for IEIs, haha. I guess I also poked at your Si Role. That was not my intention.
Maybe it is just me, but I find Intuitives in general do not come across as proficient in reaching physical fitness as much as Sensors (esp. Se leads), even if they are Sp instinct. They will care for it as Sp instinct types, but it will often still look like some kind of weakness.
Anyhow, the best bet to find the SLE person of your dreams as an IEI who values the Sp instinct would be to meet them at a gym or some fitness related convention, or even some kind of health store (though the latter are more often frequented by health-conscious Si valuing Sp instinct people, mostly EIIs and SEIs).
Haha, I have actually used my "Ni magic" before to reach certain goals or "manifest" things.
The last time I did it "seriously", I managed to get accepted for the study course of my choice, haha.
Also, there is some use in following some kind of "Law of Attraction" code as an Ni ego type, esp. as an NF.
There have been numerous occasions when I would focus my mind on meeting certain kinds of types, and then it happened.
It is like your unconscious selectively looks out for those kinds of things/people, then. Can be a pretty useful thing.
Personally, I am studying SLEs and their behaviorisms, so I can get a feeling for their vibe and so forth, making it easier to spot them.
It could be sp instinct related since my ILI (sp/sx) ex was motivated and he ate healthy. It just feels like a chore to me. I will mostly work out when I wake up with energy. I prefer to dance over lifting weights and without someone to guide me in lifting I am totally clueless. I will choose the treadmill over going outside though. hahah
I used to think he was sx first but now it I am sure he isn't. It has been clearer since I really took a look at the instincts. I like the videos you posted btw. I let an sp/sx friend listen to them in the car yesterday and he was like, yeah that's me, for sp/sx.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I have two SLE friends who would take all of y'all
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You also do these firm conclusions yourself. SisOfNight's suggestion that it is Ti HA makes sense. Both of you display greater Ni than Ni HA, for sure. I have no problem seeing both of you as IEI.
Also your Ti HA isn't better than hers, you seem to misunderstand her posts too easily; where you tried to explain to her that behaviours can have manifold motivations, you were banging on open doors as she herself already mentioned some of those motivations. Using some of them to show how some IEIs actually do go to the gym. She was also speaking of relative trends, nothing absolute.
So it was weird reading your reply to her as it looked like you didn't really read her post.
Also if you like to consider many different motivations, why do you try to retype her based on just a few posts?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
My SLE's newest thing is joining a boxing a gym... Not that I really know how you'd just casually hang around one of those
Go to shows, metal, rap, punk shows? I feel like many Se doms love festivals and energetic concerts etc. No wait, make an LSI friend which will be a lot easier because I find activation partners tend to run more in the same circles and have an easier time connecting. Then eventually the LSI will have an SLE friend.
50%, no 75% of the deal: be hot, not just cute but HOOOT. SLEs are more into looks than any other guys.
If you fall out of regular look landscape, they will consider the approach.
Smile and be friendly (no need to be mellow), they love to be around positive and optimistic people.
Also speak your mind (in a diplomatic way, not like they do ), they love witty persons who can challenge them a bit.
Be fun and have fun. Don't plan your wedding or babies. "Where do we stand in our relationship" is to forget.
Give them attention. Then stop. Then give again. Then disappear. Then come back. They love the chase.
The one SLE I know, If I am getting his type right. he might be SEE. anyway. should be a similar ballpark, He is always getting into fights, it's only lately we have been able to be friends because I don't tolerate fights and he has calmed down some and become more responsible lately. but when they are young. they are the jocks, small limited worldview (might depend on upbringing) and is always landing in predicaments. Luckily they always can manage to get themselves out of them. Makes sense why they go for high paying jobs because the one I know needs money to constantly get him out of trouble.
Thats what they look like stereotypically, or at least the one I know.
What really bonded this particular ESTp to me was when I went into a deeper place myself and spoke about my struggles with a mental disorder I am dealing with.
The next day he was offering to pay for anything I needed and said he would have my back no matter what. This all would have been quite helpful when I was younger and getting picked on all the time but now that I am an adult I hardly need that kind of protection. although its always nice to hear. I'd say there instincts come out when You let them know how hard a situation is for you. If you really show pain they will respond and treat you in a nice way. the one I know was asked why he liked me so much and he said (paraphrasing my emotions the night before. "He basically said the struggle is real".
They respect people who are dealing with things and keep fighting for their survival.
one last thing. The ESTp I know says he will only date white girls that are blonde. Later I caught him with a brunette and I joked with him saying he broke his rule! to which he replied he will date a brunette but they have to dye their hair blond when he's dating them.
They have a lot of superficial rules but they are open to modifying them.
better just to see their good nature and let them see yours and build a bond on that, stupid rules really shouldn't mean much in the long run anyway.