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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Hmm...
For examples of my typing prowess, check out the following threads:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...n-Michaels-SLE
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Videos-of-LII (I got my ass skewered in this one)
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Typing-Thread
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Duck-Commander
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ctures-of-SLEs
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...f-Duck-Calling
I'm probably forgetting a couple; in my efforts to show you people what particular types "look like", I've made quite a few threads.
It isn't like we conspire together or anything; she simply understands me.
Two words: "social dynamics"
Perhaps that's because you actually are a logical type, and hence you cannot "see" the "social dynamics" that I can see?
Fat. As in, "you're fat".
So you're saying my words impacted you in some way? How?
I need to hear your voice to definitively type you.
We'll see; my weak Te makes it difficult for me to "know what to do", but I think I can manage.
I don't think you've actually read my threads then, because I've outlined plenty of times my ideas about this nonsense.
No, you started comparing me to him after you decided that all I do is "conduct a symphony of madness".
Only after you crucified me in that obnoxious thread of yours.
lol, no
That is because I see types.
inb4 The Sixth Sense reference
But that wasn't my motivation for coming here. I came here because there is truth to socionics that most people don't understand, and I am sick of people spreading misinformation on these boards. My "ultimate goal in life" is to make money, though.
Fuck Pod'Lair; I'm glad you're pooping all over it.
All Chad Kroeger wanted to do was play some rock'n'roll; all David Koresh wanted to do was amass firearms; all I want to do is tell (maybe "show" is the better word) everyone what I know.
Noted.
You see "type" as a "label"; I see "type" as an "essence". That is also why I disagree with Aushra that "Ne" is the "essence" of an object.
Can we discuss this via TinyChat? I feel like that is a better medium, as it allows us to instantly address any disagreements or misunderstandings. The key is to not get pissed at each other again. I only ask that you show me respect; in return, I will answer any question you ask me.
it fluctuates...semi for now.
Like @Absurd said, it's hard to tie down an IEI.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Originally Posted by woofwoofl
Having said that, and due to multiple events in my world that, in part, comprise this crazy assed thing called life, I'm gonna publicly relax my Se-SEE typing just in time for you to constructively and proactively make a case for something. You've got one week. Rock me, Amadeus.
I would love to observe that! Time and place?
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Ok, I understand...so if I am IEI then it is extinguishment...hmmm, but if both people were very self aware it would not necessarily have to extinguish anything? Making mindful choices (self aware) is a sign of growth to me. My issue with socionics is, it can be limiting. People should be able to "dual" it out with any type...I don't know, just "typing" out loud here.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I understand, and I wish that was so, but unfortunately "type" is what "defines our entire world". I'm pretty self-aware, yet I still have problems communicating with my LSI boss; I still unintentionally offend Ti-users with my Fi-statements, and I still become offended when they criticize my logic, even though I know it's faulty. I think "type" has something to do with "language-games":
The language is meant to serve for communication between a builder A and an assistant B. A is building with building-stones: there are blocks, pillars, slabs and beams. B has to pass the stones, in the order in which A needs them. For this purpose they use a language consisting of the words "block", "pillar" "slab", "beam". A calls them out; — B brings the stone which he has learnt to bring at such-and-such a call. Conceive this as a complete primitive language.
Imagine LSI as being builder A and EIE as being assistant B; their language is Se/Ni and Ti/Fe. Imagine SLI as being builder C and IEE as being assistant D; their language is Ne/Si and Fi/Te. When I attempt to communicate with LSI, it's like I'm talking about "sticks", "bricks", "pipes", and "tiles" instead of "blocks", "pillars", "slabs", and "beams".
Does this make sense?
Place:
http://www.tinychat.com/the17th
Time:
Currently undetermined
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I don't know any of those people and to be honest I read just one (thread) you posted, that SLE one I think, in which I nearly died seeing people with portable squirrel houses on their faces.
This doesn't mean she is your dual of course.It isn't like we conspire together or anything; she simply understands me.
Two fingers.Two words: "social dynamics"
How is EII, EIE and ESI a logical type?Perhaps that's because you actually are a logical type, and hence you cannot "see" the "social dynamics" that I can see?
Seven years is a lot of time. Not unless you're static and oblivious to time flow. Cough.Fat. As in, "you're fat".
Repeat them.So you're saying my words impacted you in some way? How?
I need to hear your voice to definitively type you.Code:http://speedy.sh/DqB9Q/Absurdvoice.mp3
To be fair, JoBro IS answering constructively now, maybe the tone could be more nuanced now?
LUL @ ILEs and tone.
@woofwoofl is this Truth or gaslighting? I'm up for TC 17th sessions btw... Wanna have my webcam up & running this time.No, you started comparing me to him after you decided that all I do is "conduct a symphony of madness". Only after you crucified me in that obnoxious thread of yours. lol, no
It sure as hell ain't truth. "Gaslighting" can fit the bill, "bullshit" definitely does, and at best, it's just more sloppy guesswork. The full name of "Johannes Amadeus Mozart" was a byproduct of "Johannes" being incredibly close to the first name of Johann Sebastian Bach (and coincidentally the first name of the father of the entire Bach line of composers, as well as the actual first name of Johannes Brahms), and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart being commonly typed at IEE. Any mentions of conducting symphonies of madness were made well after the name was set in place.
And awesome on having the webcam running! I really have no idea whether I'll be on TC, sleeping, or just biking around the town/city/whatever at night before the snow hits here tomorrow. There's also the strong possibility that I'll make a pizza in the dead of night. Today is 311 day, so the iPod might be playing a hell of a lot of 311 as I bike through the currently snowless roads and sidewalks. Winter needs to get out of here for a few months.
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The point is that you initially compared me to Mozart. I didn't come in here saying "I'M IEE THAT MEANS I'M LIKE MOZART LUL", and I highly doubt the whole "symphony of madness" thing began after the nickname was given. Stop pretending to be innocent; "gaslighting" and "bullshitting" is what you've been doing, not me.
@woofwoofl
Hey, Se-SEE 9w7 9w1 9w2 4w3 4w5 6w9, when are you going to be in TinyChat?
1a) Boo-hoo. hope you don't chip a nail if/when you dig into that box of tissues.
2a) Way to circumvent the fact that you were wrong again. It almost worked.
3a) You don't get to pick what "the point" is.
4a) That wasn't the point to begin with.
1b) Nor did I.
2b) Refer to 4a.
1c) Tough shit. Refer to 1a and 2a.
2c) The sum of your actions has proven you to be far less of "a savvy source" than almost, if not everyone else here.
Never did that. On the contrary, I'm proud as hell of that one, and I'm proud of every name that's an outgrowth of "Johannes Amadeus Mozart".
Not even gonna hunt down the post(s) in which you, at least, implicity stated that a majority of your posts were for trolling purposes.
Fuck if I know, but probably in the night. There's a hell of a lot of things I'd rather do than to hear your obnoxious mouth write a bunch of checks that your ass can't cash, and there's a hell of a lot of people I'd rather spend time in TC with than you. Focus on you detracts from focus on them, and from all that you've said and done, not only do you not give a shit about the negative repercussions, but to detract focus from everything other than yourself is your goal in the first place. The door to TinyChat remains open to all nonetheless.
By the way, you've got less than five and a half days to make a solid case for a typing for me. This all falls within the parameters of "don't let your mouth write a check that your ass can't cash". Taking a tinkle on the Enneagram and trityping me 999 ain't gonna do you any more good than effectively putting both Ti and Fi in my Ego block like you did with that Joe-Cionics "ILE" typing.
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Oh god yeah, the cam and video were on, but the cam was pointed towards what looked like a tan-colored wall. An infuriating day in TC, it made me envy the deaf at times. It was one of those things I don't regret doing once, but sure as hell don't wanna do twice. Ath was there to witness, Lungs too, same with Maritsa, and if I were to join the Ja-heezus Sebastian Bach school of voice typing, there'd be enough there for me to make him Idents with Jadae and Gummi. Same tonality, same cadences, same all-sorts-of-stuff. Tried to make sense of what the guy was doing, but he kept bringing on the emo and blabbering about god knows what. I had to mute/hide his vid for the sake of my sanity and the sanity of anyone else in the room, all of whom I'd much rather talk to anyways. Based on past experience, I would rather be hit by a car than to hear the Butt Commander talk for over five minutes. Everything was a mess to such an extent that I suspected the guy was deliberately making a mess. Any further Socionics related convos between the both of us had to go to the forums after that.
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I don't care about you, nor do I care about the stupid nicknames you come up with for people; I just didn't want others to think I compared myself to Mozart.
What the fuck are you talking about.
Yes I do.
Yes it was.
No, but you're making it look like that's what I did, when in reality you're the one who first called me Mozart.
Refer to "fuck off".
No, I think I'm right about this. The nickname was created for derisive purposes and you know it.
You're not properly equipped to understand my posts; maybe if you were born with an "F" instead of a "T" you wouldn't have this problem.
Because you're an Fi-PoLR asshole.
Good, because I wouldn't give a fuck if you did, and thus you would be wasting your time.
You're such a whiny little bitch. Sorry if I spoiled your precious atmosphere; just kidding, I'm not.
My case gets stronger with every post you make.
Okay, so Aushra defined "Ne" as perceiving "the essence of an object", right? And you've got yourself typed as SEE, which means "the essence of an object" is something you don't think you're capable of perceiving, right? As an IEE, I think object-essence perception is the job of Fi, and thus it would make sense if you're ILE that you feel incapable of detecting such essences.
Did you call him that first, or did I? I don't recall now, but I think it started after I mentioned how he (in chatbox) called @hkkmr a jealous Salieri out to get him, thereby comparing himself with Mozart and attempting to pass himself off as a persecuted genius.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Woofl stop using your friendship with Kim as a way to get around the rules and openly shit on other people by making threads to explicitly target them. It's not nice.
Everyone else has to go through innuendo and snarky comments after all. Which is obviously far nicer.
Your repeated responses prove otherwise.
Yes you do, and when you say "people", you really mean "you".
And about you saying that you were getting persecuted just like Salieri "persecuted" Mozart? You mentioned that you had a "fiendish cackle" like Mozart's, and what's so bad about a nickname? My TC name is based on a nickname I was given.
Your repeated habit of trying to distract from the issue at hand when you're backed into a corner. I chopped off the "Bloem" and put "Amadeus Mozart" in its place due to "Johannes" being close to the first name of Johann Sebastian Bach, and due to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart being regularly typed at IEE.
what the hell is wrong with being called Mozart? I've played lots of Mozart and it ruled. I've seen Amadeus, both the movie and the play. Hell yeah for seeing the play. And by the way, Salieri and Mozart were contemporaries...
If something pops into my head, I go with it, same deal. The nickname turned derisive when you got more and more baselessly pompous. When something/someone is ridiculous, it tends to get ridiculed.
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Joe-cionics.
You're not the only person on these forums, which brings me to my next point...
...it's not about me exclusively, the TC would be pretty shitty if it was just me in there. I had a hell of a good time with some awesome people and we talked about doggies and played Pop-Up Videos. It ruled!
it certainly can't get any weaker...
You shitcanned her definitions.
Nope. Check under my avatar.
More baseless speculation.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
This is retarded and you should feel ashamed of yourself. Anyways, you got Aushra Augusta herself as IEE. Consequentially, "as an IEE" doesn't even count for shit in your own mind and/or by your own parameters. Her say trumps yours by default.
4chan has been past its prime for almost a decade now. As with your quasi-Pod'Lair meanderings, you're a day late and a dollar short.
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