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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_m View Post
    Consider an LII as an example. Could it be possible that LII function ordering is better captured by the following?

    1. Leading: Ti.
    2. Creative: Ne.
    3. Role: Se.
    4. Vulnerable: Fi.

    5. Suggestive: Fe.
    6. Mobilizing: Si.
    7. Ignoring: Te.
    8. Demonstrative: Ni.

    The reason that this might make more intuitive sense is that there is more symmetry in this model. For instance, in the LII above, the strongest function contrasts the weakest function (which is judging), seeks another judging function and is contrary to another judging function. Perhaps Ausra Augusta missed something when creating Model A... What do you think?
    it's a topic i wish i understood better, but Model A's functions are deliberately arranged to show specific information paths. if you look you can see the information path always alternates between an Introverted element and an Extroverted element (e.g. → back to → etc. for an IEI's Mental ring). you can also see that the information always goes Accepting function → Producing function, meaning that information of a certain kind cannot be Produced without first Accepting some other kind of information. and so on.

    i think Model A is trying to show how information is passed along and transformed within the psyche, and you can see how these complementing and conflicting flows of information go along with the intertype relationships. if you take Duality, you see that their information flows are perfectly complementary, e.g. IEI's Mental ring is , and SLE's Mental ring is , which are two flows of perfectly complementary information going in the same direction (////). the same is true for duals' Vital rings. in the case of IEI's Conflictor LSE, their Mental ring goes . this is the same information as IEIs Mental ring, but the information is going in the exact opposite direction, which causes information "clashing" - hence why they are not compatible types. (ETA: besides the psyche and intertype relationships, information transfer can also be observed on a wider, "real world" scale through phenomena such as quadra progression.)


    Work of Model A

    (→) 1 2
    Mental Ring
    (←) 4 3
    (←) 6 5
    Vital Ring
    (→) 7 8

    this article might help a bit: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...lation-Model-A

    i don't see how the arrangement you suggest would necessarily bring anything new to the table. it would interfere with the information flows that Model A is attempting to demonstrate - which is not necessarily a bad thing, you would just have to show why your arrangement is an improvement upon the current setup of Model A.
    Last edited by glam; 01-22-2012 at 01:53 AM.

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