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  • LII (INTj)

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  • SLE (ESTp)

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  • IEI (INFp)

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  • IEE (ENFp)

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    Her quotes vibe as something Ne/Si and "aristocratic". I'm leaning towards EII.

    edit: Fi-INFj sp/so 3w2


    On why she doesn’t get drunk: "No. I think they’re the idiot people and I’m the normal person. But I don’t really go to parties where…I don’t really have drunk friends. My friends are kind of adult; they have a drink. But they hold their liquor. I think it’s incredibly embarrassing when people are drunk. It just looks so ridiculous. I find it very degrading. I think, oh, you’re really degrading yourself right now, to be this pissed out in public." — Gwyneth Paltrow

    On taking a retreat to Sedona, Arizona: "I’ll never forget it. I was starting to hike up the red rocks, and honestly, it was as if I heard the rock say: ‘You have the answers. You are your teacher.’ I thought I was having an auditory hallucination." — Gwyneth Paltrow

    "I think that women, especially women in my job, come to me because they know I’m very loving and nonjudgmental and I’m not competitive, and I’ve been through a lot."

    "I love the English way, which is not as capitalistic as it is in America. People don’t talk about work and money; they talk about interesting things at dinner parties. I like living here because I don’t tap into the bad side of American psychology, which is ‘I’m not achieving enough, I’m not making enough, I’m not at the top of the pile.’ It’s just kind of like, I am."

    "When I was twenty-one, a friend gave me a book called Diet for a New America by John Robbins, which exposed the brutal practices of American factory farms. That, coupled with a lecture from Leonardo DiCaprio (when he was nineteen and I was twenty-one) about how such animals are kept and processed, made me lose my desire for factory farm pork and beef right there."

    "Through this process my father and daughter had unwittingly taught me the importance of balance. Could I use some butter and cheese and eggs in my cooking without going down some kind of hippie shame spiral? Yes. Of course I could."

    To Cosmo: “We’re human beings and the sun is the sun—how can it be bad for you? I don’t think anything that’s natural can be bad for you.”

    On The Met Gala: "I’m never going again. It was so un-fun. It was boiling. It was too crowded. I did not enjoy it at all."

    "There’s a portion of the movie where something bad happens to me, and I lose my clothes along the way, so essentially I’m wearing a bra and trousers. There are certain requirements, but luckily I have a good base because I work out often."

    "I don’t hold on to fear as much as I used to, because I’ve learned a lot about genuinely not caring what strangers think about me. It’s very liberating. It’s very empowering, and I’ve learned a lot of that from Jay—Shawn Carter—Z, because his approach to life is very internal. It’s a very good lesson to learn."
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    She has no Se to speak of and I don't think she'd appreciate it either

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Ok, IEI are pretty much the most mysterious and elusive type out there.

    Remember IEI are a irrational type, an intuitive not an ethical type. Their ego ethical function is cautious.
    Cautious? what do you mean by that?

    I wouldn't say elusiveness is characteristic of IEI. They can be cryptic but usually they like to join themselves in with what is going on rather than hold things back. I also wouldn't say they're all that mysterious. They just tend to spend a lot of time in their heads and tend to blend in around others to survive socially.

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    Can we stop typing celebrities? Their is very little consistency here in our typing - although it is a battle between quasi-identical (IEI and EII) and since only two types are in discussion I would say that the thread is producing something other than the normally random range of choices.

    I say EII.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Oliver Aaron View Post
    Cautious? what do you mean by that?

    I wouldn't say elusiveness is characteristic of IEI. They can be cryptic but usually they like to join themselves in with what is going on rather than hold things back. I also wouldn't say they're all that mysterious. They just tend to spend a lot of time in their heads and tend to blend in around others to survive socially.
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFp-by-Beskova

    Discerning minds would disagree.

    I get the feeling you and DJ Arendee may not have a ton of experience with IEI's because they're pretty different imo from these ideas you have about them. I'm not going to try and persuade you really, just meet some people like Gwyneth and some people like the IEI I've linked and you will soon see they're quite different.

    Anyways, read this interview, she talks about something which is far more indicative of her type than some vague assessments.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/...-cookbook.html

    She's defined by her domestic-ism, perfectionism, personal relationships and child rearing, which is something that is not characteristic of IEI's imo. IMO she's valuing, and this comes thru in just about everything she does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    Can we stop typing celebrities?
    NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFp-by-Beskova

    Discerning minds would disagree.

    I get the feeling you and DJ Arendee may not have a ton of experience with IEI's because they're pretty different imo from these ideas you have about them. I'm not going to try and persuade you really, just meet some people like Gwyneth and some people like the IEI I've linked and you will soon see they're quite different.

    Anyways, read this interview, she talks about something which is far more indicative of her type than some vague assessments.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/...-cookbook.html

    She's defined by her domestic-ism, perfectionism, personal relationships and child rearing, which is something that is not characteristic of IEI's imo. IMO she's valuing, and this comes thru in just about everything she does.
    Beskova has a strong tendency to exaggerate and romanticise in her profile descriptions. I have read this one a number of times however as they're good to give to people who want a quick snapshot at a certain character.

    Alright, you win. That is definitely an Introverted Sensation HA coming through. She even says that Jay-Z has a 'mature, calming influence'... LSE-seeking much?

    EII it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    Can we stop typing celebrities? Their is very little consistency here in our typing - although it is a battle between quasi-identical (IEI and EII) and since only two types are in discussion I would say that the thread is producing something other than the normally random range of choices.

    I say EII.

    The problem is not the typing of celebrities but the lack of argumentation that comes along with it. Shouting out random types gets people nowhere but we've just had a productive debate.

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    I don't know anymore. I'm gonna stick with EIE 4 for now. All I think of when I read about her and goop is this:



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    I've never met a IEI who could hear something Jay-Z said, and marvel at it's depth. Consistently, it's the exact opposite.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    EII-Fi.



    "because I'm not judgmental" pshhhhh..... she's extremely judgmental..

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    I guess she does VI more as EII than ESI, due to the angularity (bony-ness) of her face. I don't mean that in a bad way, I think she's really pretty. But SF has more roundness to it.

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    hkkmr really does have a better understanding of IEI than the very few "SLEs" here.. idk if you have had a lot of personal experience, but I think you may just have really high level Ne that gets the theory spot on. ILEs come in 1) super smart and 2) super annoying.




    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post

    I get the feeling you and DJ Arendee may not have a ton of experience with IEI's because they're pretty different imo from these ideas you have about them. I'm not going to try and persuade you really, just meet some people like Gwyneth and some people like the IEI I've linked and you will soon see they're quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssonyyy View Post
    hkkmr really does have a better understanding of IEI than the very few "SLEs" here.. idk if you have had a lot of personal experience, but I think you may just have really high level Ne that gets the theory spot on. ILEs come in 1) super smart and 2) super annoying.

    I've had a lot of personal experience with IEI mostly female , most male IEI's I think are a bit strange.

    Also I watched a lot, lot, lot, lot of classic films and french films, I don't see IEI females as often in modern hollywood films, I think women are portrayed stronger today in films, but I think something got lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssonyyy View Post
    hkkmr really does have a better understanding of IEI than the very few "SLEs" here.. idk if you have had a lot of personal experience, but I think you may just have really high level Ne that gets the theory spot on. ILEs come in 1) super smart and 2) super annoying.


    You've forgotten 3) super smart and super annoying.

    3) is the worst b/c when they are wrong (as inevitably happens), you can't convince them otherwise. Or they willingly misinterpret what you are saying into a different larger theory that they like, but still can't be convinced that they are wrong.

    However, I agree that IEI's give off a mysterious feeling lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    You've forgotten 3) super smart and super annoying.

    3) is the worst b/c when they are wrong (as inevitably happens), you can't convince them otherwise. Or they willingly misinterpret what you are saying into a different larger theory that they like, but still can't be convinced that they are wrong.

    However, I agree that IEI's give off a mysterious feeling lol.

    Lol, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Also I watched a lot, lot, lot, lot of classic films and french films, I don't see IEI females as often in modern hollywood films, I think women are portrayed stronger today in films, but I think something got lost.
    That certain je ne sais quoi?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    You've forgotten 3) super smart and super annoying.

    3) is the worst b/c when they are wrong (as inevitably happens), you can't convince them otherwise. Or they willingly misinterpret what you are saying into a different larger theory that they like, but still can't be convinced that they are wrong.

    However, I agree that IEI's give off a mysterious feeling lol.
    #3 is truely terrible, but I find with ILE's you just have to let them stew and think about it, ILE's aren't a type that won't change their mind, they will simply fight in the moment if pressed.

    Once they stew a bit and think things over, it's easy for them to change their mind(if they think they made a mistake).

    I don't know any ILE that's not #2....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssonyyy View Post
    That certain je ne sais quoi?

    Pretty much, some IEI's approach a sort of feminine ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Oliver Aaron View Post
    Third, I was referring to Movement Style. This is my own creation in response to Gulenko's Communication style where he described how having 4D (leading or demonstrative) rational IM elements decides how one communicates with Te 4D being the Business Like Communicators, Fe being Passionate, Fi being Sincere and Ti being Cold Blooded. I did the same for the Irrational IM Elements, forming Movement Styles where people move and hold themselves differently depending on whether Se, Ne, Si or Ni is 4D... Se 4D being Tough, Si being Controlled, Ne being Clumsy and Ni being Delicate.
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    Everyone seems to be saying EII, which is a big red flag that the typing is being parroted. Never trust the consensus on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Oliver Aaron
    Third, I was referring to Movement Style. This is my own creation in response to Gulenko's Communication style where he described how having 4D (leading or demonstrative) rational IM elements decides how one communicates with Te 4D being the Business Like Communicators, Fe being Passionate, Fi being Sincere and Ti being Cold Blooded. I did the same for the Irrational IM Elements, forming Movement Styles where people move and hold themselves differently depending on whether Se, Ne, Si or Ni is 4D... Se 4D being Tough, Si being Controlled, Ne being Clumsy and Ni being Delicate.
    Movement styles is pretty good, but it probably needs a bit more study to describe.

    Rational functions affect movement quite a bit imo and the movement of say a SEI and a LSI may be different but both have 4d. I see 4d as space projecting(consuming space), and 4d as space conserving(protecting self), there are better words for this probably. Clumsy is probably a good term for . Delicate for probably works as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Movement styles is pretty good, but it probably needs a bit more study to describe.

    Rational functions affect movement quite a bit imo and the movement of say a SEI and a LSI may be different but both have 4d. I see 4d as space projecting(consuming space), and 4d as space conserving(protecting self), there are better words for this probably. Clumsy is probably a good term for . Delicate for probably works as well.
    Yeah, that's pretty much how I see Tough and Controlled, one charges out confidently into the physical world, the other perfects their physical movements in a smaller space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    Everyone seems to be saying EII, which is a big red flag that the typing is being parroted. Never trust the consensus on anything.

    I've thought she was EII for a while.


    that statement...what are you, LII...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    #3 is truely terrible, but I find with ILE's you just have to let them stew and think about it, ILE's aren't a type that won't change their mind, they will simply fight in the moment if pressed.

    Once they stew a bit and think things over, it's easy for them to change their mind(if they think they made a mistake).

    I don't know any ILE that's not #2....

    Aw. TBH I forgive a lot of annoying behaviour if I think someone is genuinely intelligent. In the same way I forgive the awkwardness of some INTjs, bc they really are so fucking good at something else that it seems silly to point out that they don't have social skills, or whatever.

    Some alpha NTs are just smug bullshitters though, and I could probably solve those logic questions on standardized tests faster than them. In that case be prepared to be called out on every faux pas. J/K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    I've thought she was EII for a while.


    that statement...what are you, LII...?

    Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. The point is that when everyone is thinking the same, somebody isn't thinking. I'm fine with the consensus type in principle if that's what she is; it's just that a consensus on anything should raise a red flag that something important is being taken for granted (and this is usually the case).

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    probably EII

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    SEE she looks like Haila, my favorite SEE cook on YouTube
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    EII. She's the incarnation of Delta NF Quadra Complex.

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    No opinion on type, only some IE's I see.

    The whole natural health food and products is very Si focused and the very nature of the website and catalogue is a Ne exercise.

    By itself not enough for a sociotype, as a life long pattern of something she always does for years and years on end, that's enough for a personality pattern.

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    I really like her appearance-wise. Idk about her recent “health products” though.

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    My best guess is ILE-Ne for now ~ the Alpha with the softest Ti. Hollywood co-star Robert Downey Jr EIE is her Beneficiary. It looks like she has married again and he is looking very SF...

    I'm not positive though.
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    Um I’m not she is Fe ignoring (“EII”) if she’s NF would have to be IEE. But she could also be Fe valued.

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    Si valuing Ethical.

    In the past I typed her as SEI, but ESE or even EII might be possible alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Well she VIs kinda of like a famous INFP plus someone else I know and love but hadn't typed.
    I also have a story.
    Paltrow was among the 1st I typed. Mb initially assumed IEE, but soon have changed to IEI. I even translated her interview where she whined how bad Pitt (SLI) was.
    Why so much interest to her? She much reminded me a girl to which I had the feelings in that time. That girl was IEI as I've understood after systematic research of the typology started in 2003. I keep the opinion about her type since 2004 or mb earlier.
    We had no a communication but I kept the feelings to that IEI after understood our types are conflicting for some years. I had thoughts IR issues can be overcomed or mb compensated. But thoughts to keep the distance appeared as stronger in me. There was an inner fight. When the possibility for new try with her appeared, she shown the interest to me - I've decided that it's all too difficult, that she'll again will hurt me and no enough base for good relations. I also felt the offence at her for some things.
    She is still important for my heart. Despite I think about us.

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    She is all the types mixed into one pile of Goo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    She is all the types mixed into one pile of Goo.
    Yes, she is The Blob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I also have a story.
    Paltrow was among the 1st I typed. Mb initially assumed IEE, but soon have changed to IEI. I even translated her interview where she whined how bad Pitt (SLI) was.
    Why so much interest to her? She much reminded me a girl to which I had the feelings in that time. That girl was IEI as I've understood after systematic research of the typology started in 2003. I keep the opinion about her type since 2004 or mb earlier.
    We had no a communication but I kept the feelings to that IEI after understood our types are conflicting for some years. I had thoughts IR issues can be overcomed or mb compensated. But thoughts to keep the distance appeared as stronger in me. There was an inner fight. When the possibility for new try with her appeared, she shown the interest to me - I've decided that it's all too difficult, that she'll again will hurt me and no enough base for good relations. I also felt the offence at her for some things.
    She is still important for my heart. Despite I think about us.
    But relations can be difficult at first even in the same Quadra if you are not used to each other. What is she is really an EII or IEE? It might be worth a try, Sol. Especially if she made such a big impression on your heart.
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