Ted Kaczynski - the unabomber

[Protozoa]

Anyone watch the Netflix documentary? He apparently skipped grades in school and had a PHD by 25. So he had a lot of trouble relating with people and had no one close. But had a hatred of many aspects of society. Sounds pretty schizoid.

[The Reality Denialist]

Anyone watch the Netflix documentary? He apparently skipped grades in school and had a PHD by 25. So he had a lot of trouble relating with people and had no one close. But had a hatred of many aspects of society. Sounds pretty schizoid.

Well he was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Schizoid might be a better fit. I think he has no observable disorganized thinking or hallucination/hearing voices.

[Tearsofaclown]

Well he was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Schizoid might be a better fit. I think he has no observable disorganized thinking or hallucination/hearing voices.

He refused to plead insanity. His lawyers and the cops both pressured him to do so but he wouldn't. Why? Because he isn't insane. There is nothing insane about his ideas. To plead insanity would be to betray all the work he did. His entire ideology. It would be like Socrates or Jesus repenting to avoid the consequences.

[Protozoa]

Well he was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Schizoid might be a better fit. I think he has no observable disorganized thinking or hallucination/hearing voices.

I think so too. Google searches with accounts from people in his prison say he was reclusive, in his head all the time, and does not like talking to people, despite being in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.

Yes, you take a kid who is already socially awkward at 16 and place him with 18 year olds. He was also part of MK Ultra. The CIA mind control program. They broke him. That was the purpose of the experiments. Mind control. Break people and put them back together whatever way you choose. They told him his ideas were half baked rip offs. He was a pseudo intellectual. Stuff like that. To a person whose entire value was their mind, this was a deep blow and he never forgot it. You just don't fuck with people like the Una Bomber and expect to get away with it. lol.

I kinda like the the guy and find him funny. Like when he found out his brother got married. lol. He didn't show up at the wedding of course. He mocked his brother through a phone call. Saying he sold out. lol. It was the wife of this brother who busted him. When they printed the manifesto to the public, the sister in law noticed it was him. Same themes. Same language. He was busted by the words he used. His sister in law read it and is like, "I have heard this shit before."

Catching him was quite an amazing story. They had the wrong profile for years. They thought he was an airline mechanic at best. They had no idea the intellect they were dealing with. It was interesting that through the structure and content of his language, they could narrow in on him. Like the way he wrote his letters were from a time in in the past how people did PHD work. So they could tell he got his PHD during X time span. Start there. Now we are looking for a guy who has a phd in this certain time frame in the past. He also always said, eat your cake and have it too. WHich is the reverse of the normal saying but actually the correct way of saying it that few people still know or use. So the unabomber was using the phrase correctly and most people use it wrong. Things like this add up. Quirks. Forensic linguistics.


Fitzgerald recalls how a transposition of verbs in the manifesto written by the Unabomber helped lead to a closer identification of Ted Kaczynski in April 1996.

The latter used the phrase "You can't eat your cake and have it, too," instead of the usual form, which is "You can't have your cake and eat it, too." Like most people, Mr. Fitzgerald thought Kaczynski had made a mistake. But examination of other letters by him contained a similar feature, which, Mr. Fitzgerald says, "is actually a traditionally middle English way of using the term. He technically had it right and the rest of us had it wrong. It was one of the big clues that allowed us to make the rest of the comparison and submit a report to the judge who signed off on a search warrant."


It really shows how little they had on the guy when the way he used a phrase was enough to get a warrant. The judge was like WTF. I think it was the first of its kind. It set a legal precedent. We all have a unique linguistic fingerprint. Basically, a new type of criminal science had to be invented to catch him.

I just can't believe (though I shouldn't) the CIA was involved in messing with his head. It wouldn't surprise me if they were a big catalyst in making him the unabomber. I really kind of feel bad for him. He wasn't properly socialized in his youth and everything that followed in his adulthood made things worse. Did you know he's a virgin? And he's been in solitary confinement for his life in prison. So he has been effectively completely isolated from humanity when that was arguably what screwed him up to begin with. I know his victims would probably completely disagree with me, but it just doesn't seem right. But I guess that's life.

[Tearsofaclown]

I think so too. Google searches with accounts from people in his prison say he was reclusive, in his head all the time, and does not like talking to people, despite being in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.



I just can't believe (though I shouldn't) the CIA was involved in messing with his head. It wouldn't surprise me if they were a big catalyst in making him the unabomber. I really kind of feel bad for him. He wasn't properly socialized in his youth and everything that followed in his adulthood made things worse. Did you know he's a virgin? And he's been in solitary confinement for his life in prison. So he has been effectively completely isolated from humanity when that was arguably what screwed him up to begin with. I know his victims would probably completely disagree with me, but it just doesn't seem right. But I guess that's life.

Yes, it almost certainly caused it. MK Ultra thing. This was somewhat common in those days. Use college kids for psych experiments without ethics. Like the Stanford Prison and Milgram experiments.

Kant, Newton and Tesla died virgins too.

You mentioned you watched the Netflix series. I never saw that one. My info is coming from a series from Discovery Channel. Netflix got the rights to it later though and it streamed it though so we probably saw the same one. Definitely worth watching imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunt:_Unabomber


lol. the infamous pic of him is not even him. this case was bungled so bad.



. Manhunt: Unabomber, a new Discovery series that retraces the investigation, makes the claim that the Utah woman who described the Unabomber to Boylan was actually recalling another sketch artist who allegedly drew a different composite years prior. Over time, the show says, their faces blended together in her mind. "She was remembering remembering the Unabomber," says Sam Worthington, who plays FBI profiler James Fitzgerald. "She had spent — think about it — three seconds looking at the Unabomber, but she spent the whole afternoon with [the artist]."

[Tearsofaclown]

Anyone watch the Netflix documentary? He apparently skipped grades in school and had a PHD by 25. So he had a lot of trouble relating with people and had no one close. But had a hatred of many aspects of society. Sounds pretty schizoid.

Yes, you take a kid who is already socially awkward at 16 and place him with 18 year olds. He was also part of MK Ultra. The CIA mind control program. They broke him. That was the purpose of the experiments. Mind control. Break people and put them back together whatever way you choose. They told him his ideas were half baked rip offs. He was a pseudo intellectual. Stuff like that. To a person whose entire value was their mind, this was a deep blow and he never forgot it. You just don't fuck with people like the Una Bomber and expect to get away with it. lol.

I kinda like the the guy and find him funny. Like when he found out his brother got married. lol. He didn't show up at the wedding of course. He mocked his brother through a phone call. Saying he sold out. lol. It was the wife of this brother who busted him. When they printed the manifesto to the public, the sister in law noticed it was him. Same themes. Same language. He was busted by the words he used. His sister in law read it and is like, "I have heard this shit before."

Catching him was quite an amazing story. They had the wrong profile for years. They thought he was an airline mechanic at best. They had no idea the intellect they were dealing with. It was interesting that through the structure and content of his language, they could narrow in on him. Like the way he wrote his letters were from a time in in the past how people did PHD work. So they could tell he got his PHD during X time span. Start there. Now we are looking for a guy who has a phd in this certain time frame in the past. He also always said, eat your cake and have it too. WHich is the reverse of the normal saying but actually the correct way of saying it that few people still know or use. So the unabomber was using the phrase correctly and most people use it wrong. Things like this add up. Quirks. Forensic linguistics.


Fitzgerald recalls how a transposition of verbs in the manifesto written by the Unabomber helped lead to a closer identification of Ted Kaczynski in April 1996.

The latter used the phrase "You can't eat your cake and have it, too," instead of the usual form, which is "You can't have your cake and eat it, too." Like most people, Mr. Fitzgerald thought Kaczynski had made a mistake. But examination of other letters by him contained a similar feature, which, Mr. Fitzgerald says, "is actually a traditionally middle English way of using the term. He technically had it right and the rest of us had it wrong. It was one of the big clues that allowed us to make the rest of the comparison and submit a report to the judge who signed off on a search warrant."


It really shows how little they had on the guy when the way he used a phrase was enough to get a warrant. The judge was like WTF. I think it was the first of its kind. It set a legal precedent. We all have a unique linguistic fingerprint. Basically, a new type of criminal science had to be invented to catch him.