Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[Trevor]

Kelly Liken - ISFp/SEI

[silke]

Andrew Bird - LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUjmep976c



Lawrence Krauss - LII-Ne 3w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGKEBZZEuFE



Jakob Dylan - LII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arg8yCPTVms



Richard Buckley - LII-Ne e5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oap5rzqb1yM



Victor Gulenko - LII-Ne 5w6 sp/so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTx9OBkGQYE



Crispin Glover - LII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxoiLnsemKs



Anders Trentemoller - LII-Ne so/sp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czEuPqpxLDE



Stefan Poiss - LII-Ti 9w1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRynJZqzgY



Josh Beech - LII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgOgbq787Q



Frank Zappa - LII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6LT2MdaPI



KiwiFuel: - LII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcpKHO7wkoY



Vladislav Surkov - LII-Ne sp/sx 6w5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFBkxomCooY



Marion Cotillard: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw1MqLgz4Qo



Valentina Lisitsa: LII-Ne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1VnAdqEjRs



Amanda Seyfried: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSH__Hvrxg



Claire Danes: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Qzals9Sio



Natalia Poklonskaya: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4JCQViRKg



Ann Ward: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDWU7AUTQDA



Sylvia Plath: LII-Ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hHjctqSBwM



Anastasia Soare: LII-Ti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twJs072YPqI



Marie Curie: LII-Ti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vTRrZU-LKQ



Emmy Noether: LII-Ti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_MpQG2xXVo

[Trevor]

An INTj:

If anyone is interested; here is his youtube channel. It contains Tutorials on Autodesk Inventor, programming, and other computer stuff: http://www.youtube.com/user/iTzAdam5X/ .

And website: http://espionageio.com/

[Absurd]

http://www.muziboo.com/Socionics/music/102/#

A photo of a LII guy pops up after you click that link.

[Luciforms]

She looks like diablo cody!

[World Socionics]

ISFp
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBQHDzHrpd4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSpJLf2F_q4[/youtube]

ENTp
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5QIDtLyyM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vAmQ2-5VaE[/youtube]

That's why ENTp and ISFp and meant for each other. They should totally marry each other.....

I'm not so sure about Frezned being an ILE. Although he's certainly an ENTP in MBTI, I just don't think Fi PoLR is apparent and while his videos are very clear demonstrations of Extraverted Intuition, I have yet to see him explicitly use Introverted Logic.

[Filambee]

ESFJ guy on the left. He was in my National Guard Unit.

Here is his YouTube Channel for more videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/musicjoeyoung?feature=watch

[Filambee]

This is a video of my best friend Robin and I just being crazy. I'm the one holding the camera.

[Trevor]

probably a ISFp, i believe

[krieger]

omg, hottest ESFJ evar.

disclaimer: i don't really endorse the un-funny commercials this is part of

[Default]

[Galen]

Game Grumps

JonTron: Fe-ISFp / Egoraptor: Ti-ENTp
Both are likely sx/so

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

lol there's no other way around!

[Aquagraph]

They are kinda adorable.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

1:50 let the fi polr start or what

[ArchonAlarion]

lol there's no other way around!

That was entirely pointless and cute.

[silke]

Sia Furler - SEI-Fe so/sp 6w5
(*she has also received some LII typings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AXFUuPde-s



Leigh Nash - SEI sp/so 9w1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF64sMpeFNk



Kari Byron - SEI-Si
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTLdJJ8DlE



Kirsten Dunst - SEI-Fe 3w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVXp_jbMtdg



Camille and Kennerly (The Harp Twins): SEI-Fe 3w2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPb20fK0R94



Lisa Mitchell: - SEI 4w3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLuznFx7nuM



Bjork - SEI-Si sp/so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_89pxWXH6w



SEI-Fe sp/so - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQVy2OLRe0


Dido - SEI-Si
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPErepIFDmg



Kelly Skyline - SEI-Fe sp/sx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7qYygji810



Eli Manning - SEI-Si 6w5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qccOpHRGFo



Jeff Hancock - SEI sp/so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aAivrIUH1s



Frank Tallis - SEI (sx/sp?)
Interview with Frank Tallis



Rocco Castoro - SEI 9w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSyFX3ny8uQ



Mike Falzone - SEI-Si so/sx 9w8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h00oFNTqLMI



Harmony Korine - SEI-Si so/sp (6?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE4TUodBMHE



Shane Smith - SEI sp/so 9w1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9bGtgKs6NU



Jeff Montalvo (Seven Lions) - SEI-Si e9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVamwuEejDw



Abel Tesfaye (The Weeknd): SEI-Si
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGsQnvW_ACo



Beck Hansen - SEI-Fe 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceBcOGL7nI



Dana Immanuel - SEI-Fe sp/sx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YD-tnIpyjo





SEI ~~

[mu4]

Dana Immanuel - SEI sp/sx (Fe-sub?)

I don't think subtype, I think maybe SLI or subtype.

[silke]

I've seen a couple of her other videos and she seems very lighthearted and emotional, which is characteristic of the Fe-subtype. Sp/sx can look like Si at a cursory glance (self-pres instinct and Si descriptions overlap at multiple points, PistolShrimp has even posted a thread asking how to tell the two apart).



Here's another SEI (Fe-sub sp/so 9w1) - Shane Smith, the CEO and co-founder of VICE

[mu4]

I've seen a couple of her other videos and she seems very lighthearted and emotional, which is characteristic of the Fe-subtype. Sp/sx can look like Si at a cursory glance (self-pres instinct and Si descriptions overlap at multiple points, PistolShrimp has even posted a thread asking how to tell the two apart).

I thought he was Si-SLI actually as well. They are gregarious and affable in nature vs the more stoic subtypes and can be quite outrageous in expression.

VICE is also a very aristocratic magazine in it's structure and community, it started as a DIY sort of thing as well which is very characteristic of Delta. Alpha is more organizational in nature.

Also many of the stories that are featured in VICE delves into are either devaluing or minus ala Delta. The situations presented are uncomfortable, unpleasant and generally not very friendly. This is the core center of the magazine. I will contrast this with Anthony Bourdain's show(ILE) who ends every single episode with a community dinner either with a family or a block party of some sort. It doesn't matter where it is, almost every single episode ends with him eating with a family, eating what everyone eats and enjoying that sense of community and family. And that is the difference between the shows. Bourdain's show is basically about how you can go anywhere in the world, sit down on some day, get a group of people together from the community, from the family and have a dinner and how this meal brings everyone together. This is an universal, democratic, valuing aesthetic and motif that characterizes Alpha thinking.

I don't know about Dana Immanuel, but I don't think VICE or Shane Smith characterizes this, his motif is to take a topic or subject as far apart as possible as well as trying to keep himself as independant as possible, it's anti-community building and his work delves more into provoking moral outrage or some sort of outrage. What community Shane does build is small, cliquish and insular. Also imo a lot of the ideas the magazine promotes are simply conservative redneck ideas sold to hipsters.

I would like your thoughts on this since I think we have a different way to identifying in the 2nd function.

[Lao Tzunami]

Wow, I am so confused now. Like x10 more confused

[silke]

Maribeth Monroe: - ESE-Si 3w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRgfF1-CIQE



Kourtney Compton: ESE 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czti8_3HEqc



Demi Lovato - ESE-Si 1w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pGvC0Fxbmo



Kirstie Maldonado - ESE-Fe 2w3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7thx4p3gQn8



Laci Green - ESE-Fe sx/so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2EooMhqRI



Asia Carrera - ESE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1IUAvxXz-4



Leyla Hussein - ESE-Fe so/sp
http://viooz.co/movies/23072-the-cruel-cut-2013.html



Tatiana - ESE-Si so/sp - interview posted on socioneru channel of Kiliningrad socionics group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmuw4hVaaQ



Jim Caviezel - ESE-Si 7w6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZML7N9XSfIw



Matthew Mcconaughey - ESE 7w8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYjSOdDfsWs



Liam O'Connor (L.O.C.): ESE so/sp 7w8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhWXromV-A



Kevin Pietersen - ESE 8w7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiaZnXayjTQ



Tyler/Owen from RSD - ESE so/sx 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn25Cs



Young Jeezy (Jay Wayne Jenkins) - ESE-Si 3w2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkRxiRp02KA

[Whoobie77]

Tyler/Owen from RSD - ESE so/sx 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn25Cs

Tyler is BETA hardcore.

[wacey]

@siuntal, totally.

[silke]

INTj-ESFj dual couples


Desiree Hartsock (ESE-Fe) & Chris Siegfried (LII) from The Bachelorette S9




Josh Beech (LII) and Shenae Grimes-Beech (ESE), another LII-ESE dual couple
(their friend's Jesse Jo Stark type is IEI-Ni).




ENTp-ISFp dual couple (that did not last)

Vienna Girardi (ILE) and Gregory Michael (SEI)

[aisa]

INTj-ESFj dual couples


Desiree Hartsock (ESE-Fe) & Chris Siegfried (LII) from The Bachelorette S9

she looks ESE alright, but he VI's IEI to me, nothing remotely resembling LII that I see in the way he looks, speaks and moves and what he speaks...

[silke]

Is she SEI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Gv2jQpMFg

seems more EII than anything, she reminds me of the woman in this video: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post994965 I was going to comment on the semblance with @TheWholeEnglish but I see Refi has gotten to it already

Tyler is BETA hardcore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZVVoyyKIj4

How does that make him beta? The topic of this video that you posted "whatever experience you need is the one you're having at the moment" is something that comes out of EII philosophical arsenal. It phases out the need to move on forward and actively create one's own experiences, replacing it with a passive expectation and acceptance the conditions that life has provided you with, meanwhile making yourself believe that this is the best possible outcome. If anything this mantra was designed to alleviate the worries of Si h.a. : "Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment." - Eckhart Tolle, type EII - a condensed version of what Tyler is saying in that video and not representative of beta pov.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazj67F6WkA

she looks ESE alright, but he VI's IEI to me, nothing remotely resembling LII that I see in the way he looks, speaks and moves and what he speaks...

Strange, because he looks a lot like an LII guy I used to work with. If you watch them together, there are a couple of instances when he acts like he needs help much unlike an IEI and she rushes to aid him. Around 1:15 she says that it was so easy for them to get together that she was a bit startled by it. This is a very common 'complaint' in dual relations - an expectation of there being more barriers and difficulties to overcome, followed by slight surprise at the naturalness and ease - but this would be an unusual account of supervision.

[Iris]

How does that make him beta? The topic of this video that you posted "whatever experience you need is the one you're having at the moment" is something that comes out of EII philosophical arsenal. It phases out the need to move on forward and actively create one's own experiences, replacing it with a passive expectation and acceptance the conditions that life has provided you with, meanwhile making yourself believe that this is the best possible outcome. If anything this mantra was designed to alleviate the worries of Si h.a. : "Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment." - Eckhart Tolle, type EII - a condensed version of what Tyler is saying in that video and not representative of beta pov.

That so perfectly describes the EII mindset. This philosophical resignation has occasionally caused me to mistake some of them for IPs, especially SEIs. But they are not sensors, they cope less well with the environment than SEIs.

Also, that attitude of resignation often goes against my Beta attitude of we can fix this, let's push really hard to make a change. So it has been a source of friction in a few of my relationships with EIIs. But I have to hand it to them because in hard times, they are really good at accepting their fate with grace.

[TheWholeEnglish]

seems more EII than anything, she reminds me of the woman in this video: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post994965 I was going to comment on the semblance with @TheWholeEnglish but I see Refi has gotten to it already.

You guyz???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[aisa]

Strange, because he looks a lot like an LII guy I used to work with. If you watch them together, there are a couple of instances when he acts like he needs help much unlike an IEI and she rushes to aid him. Around 1:15 she says that it was so easy for them to get together that she was a bit startled by it. This is a very common 'complaint' in dual relations - an expectation of there being more barriers and difficulties to overcome, followed by slight surprise at the naturalness and ease - but this would be an unusual account of supervision.

well, firstly I may be wrong of course and I haven't watched the show cause it's US based, so I saw only a few youtube clips of him with her. What makes me think IEI was sth in his eyes and facial expressions, some of the movements. The only IEI male I knew irl was raised by a LII male so Idk how much of this can be due to this sponge-like chameleon quality that I've read IEIs are supposed to have (but even writing this seems like a far fetched idea).
When it comes to need of help - sometimes everyone needs it and IEIs are "victims" and I've seen IEI acting in need of help, although the IEI was quite a strong person in general.
In general - (assuming this is ESE and IEI) they'd share Fe and Ti... given the show where they met was weird imho and there she was romancing some guy who people supposedly typed EII and they had some communication issues (I don't mean huge arguments, just not being on the same page especially when it comes to feeling/expressing feelings - possibly Fe/Fi), she might just as well be happy to find someone who uses similar emotional expression (Fe) and patterns of thinking (Ti). I know one married couple in a supervision relationship (different types, but female is supervisee, male supervisor). It's not so rosy anymore after a few years (and she seems to be getting visibly stifled), but initially she was acting/reporting in pretty much similar words when it comes to how good she feels with him. I wouldn't associate feeling good in the beginning of the relationship with being duals. I don't think duals are the only people who can feel good together especially in the initial phase of the relationship when the brain chemistry is quite special. And by the initial phase I mean roughly first 2-3 years, especially if the relationship is moving forward and decisions of life together are being made adding more excitement to the picture.

In the end, like I said, I may be wrong, we all could, cause this is typing some strangers, a lot of it by VI, while they're "half-celebrities" and no "reality" show or interview is going to be as real as spending some time with them in real life...

[Radio]

How does that make him beta? The topic of this video that you posted "whatever experience you need is the one you're having at the moment" is something that comes out of EII philosophical arsenal. It phases out the need to move on forward and actively create one's own experiences, replacing it with a passive expectation and acceptance the conditions that life has provided you with, meanwhile making yourself believe that this is the best possible outcome. If anything this mantra was designed to alleviate the worries of Si h.a. : "Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment." - Eckhart Tolle, type EII

man this is creepy insightful. have many +1s
+1 +1 +1

[Whoobie77]

How does that make him beta? The topic of this video that you posted "whatever experience you need is the one you're having at the moment" is something that comes out of EII philosophical arsenal. It phases out the need to move on forward and actively create one's own experiences, replacing it with a passive expectation and acceptance the conditions that life has provided you with, meanwhile making yourself believe that this is the best possible outcome. If anything this mantra was designed to alleviate the worries of Si h.a. : "Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment." - Eckhart Tolle, type EII - a condensed version of what Tyler is saying in that video and not representative of beta pov..

I have my doubts that Tolle is EII. But regardless, from this video we can see that Cook is a Dynamic and not a Static. Great, that narrows him down to Si or Ni. Well, first off, is Cook describing the situation with sensoric information? No, he talking about underlying spirits, which is reminiscent of the communication styles of say, Jung and Hegel, two other Ni users imo. Next, he's talking about power dynamics, "he's playing to win". Se/Ni users value the appraisal of power dynamics in this way, while Si/Ne users do not. Finally, at the beginning of the video, he talks about "becoming the best possible version of yourself". This is straight up Se/Ni language. I'll cite if you want me to (otherwise I'm too lazy), but there are resources which state that Judicious types be who they are unabashedly, while Decisive types become who they want to be. I think there are merits too both styles, but I think this is an outlook of a Decisive.

[Iris]

INTj-ESFj dual couples


Desiree Hartsock (ESE-Fe) & Chris Siegfried (LII) from The Bachelorette S9

Great example! @aisa He vibes more IJ than IP to me. It is interesting to watch with the sound off. His movements are precise in a way that I associate with IJs. At one point she is talking and you can see his face up close. He responds to her Fe in a way that I dont think an IEI would. When they walk together you can see her physical confidence contrasting with his more careful movement.

[aisa]

Great example! @aisa He vibes more IJ than IP to me. It is interesting to watch with the sound off. His movements are precise in a way that I associate with IJs. At one point she is talking and you can see his face up close. He responds to her Fe in a way that I dont think an IEI would. When they walk together you can see her physical confidence contrasting with his more careful movement.

hmm what you write about his face from close up is interesting when it comes to Fe reaction, I still can't see him as LII at this point though just yet, but I've watched a few more videos and I'll take a step back from saying that he is not one.

what do you think about him in this video?

[lemontrees]

Jasmine Harper / Aaron Turner (SYTYCD... guilty pleasures, lol.)



Jon Stewart / Mindy Kaling !

also, I find that most people posted in this thread/ forum as alphas are not alphas so many iee's and eii's and eie's and lie's (i.e. zoe deschanel) and what not being typed as sei's just b/c they're girly, etc. haha.

[Kill4Me]

Chris Christie (ESE)

[Kill4Me]

Lenny Montana (ESE)

[silke]

Simon Ostrovsky - ILE(-Ne?) - reporter with VICE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWTXfga3ekQ



Justine Ezarik (iJustine) - ILE(-Ne?) so/sp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3igxy4AXi3o



Morgan Webb - ILE-Ti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbD4v2MUl0



Mark Dacascos - ILE-Ti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JqXN7kPqk

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

[Zola]

.

The one in the green sweater with the pan looks a lot like someone I know, heh.