Two friends compared

[MensSuperMateriam]

Long time has passed since I did my type-me thread. I'm actually even less sure about my type, among other things because my particular vision/interpretation of Socionics has become less standard. But I'm open to consider most interpretations/suggestions.

I would like to face this type-me in a different way. I will not answer that set of predefined questions (did it in the previous one). I will present some pictures of me and a friend and use him as a contrast. So I will expose some compared behaviors and offer a set of plausible interpretations without ignoring contradictions when they appear.



Here is my friend (guy) with a common friend. He is a clear-cut Ij, LII most likely (EII as a second option). Notice his tense pose (Ij). He avoids the camera, turning his head a bit in what has been commonly called "creative Ne gaze".



Me with my friend. I usually had troubles smiling in front of a camera (expressing emotions, not because I feel too much uncomfortable), except with close friends like this occasion. He maintains his uncomfortable pose, whereas I'm more relaxed.



Usual gaze/pose. Looking to the camera without being interested in it. Smiling to an object? What a nonsense...



Selfie.



Dressed for a wedding.

Despite being quite intelligent, a mix of bad memory and a bit of dyslexia (maybe the cause of the former?) weakens my friend's skill for making the "purest" Ti reasonings a la LII, which makes me doubt if LII or EII. Anyway he's very stable (mood), quite logic (general logic) in his reasonings, always act with a purpose in mind and tries to go to the point. Big pictured. Very organized, reliable, constant in his efforts to do something. Extremely reserved, I have to try a lot for getting personal information from him even for what we could usually consider trivial stuff (and I succeeded in this task more than many others of his friends). Trustable. Moralistic and bit utopian, but always in a personal way. Never tries to impose, respect everybody. All of this consistent with being a LII. Ij is sure, LII is reasonable, EII is an alternative. I discard ESI because I do not perceive a tint of Se or Se valuing in him.

I've mostly oscillated between ILI and LII in my self-typing. Before joining this forum I thought I was an ILE, which is the same type Korpsey thought I have (what happened to that guy, by the way?). Jim proposed LSE; I frankly think that's a bad typing. I have even considered EIE due to being unable to reconciliate the contradictions I perceive in myself if alpha or gamma. Some girl, Pianosinger if I remember properly, suggested LIE. I personally think I'm too moody and not enough assertive for being a LIE. If this is the answer E7 and E8 should be excluded, leaving only E6 and E1 as reasonable enneagram options.

Let's start the comparison:

-My friend is quite stable. His emotional outburst, when they happen (very rarely) are usually caused by what he perceives as a strong injustice (general), or prejudice against himself, and not in a very loudy way. He apparently can detach himself from his emotions "at will" because even when when he's worried, had a big trouble, etc, is still able to keep doing whatever he's doing without being affected or using a particular strong will for dominating the situation. I'm quite moody, I would say even emotionally unstable. Even if emotions usually do not "corrupt" my way of reasoning (affecting my conclusions about what's true or not), they quite affect my behavior. I simply cannot function when I'm depressed, with an inclination to feeling "hopeless" in such situations. My intensity of emotions is much broader; usually neutral but when I'm happy I could manifest more happines than him, the same for sadness or anger. All of this could be interpreted as P+L or F+J. I would discard F+P because in that way emotions should also affect my way of thinking, imo.

-He's quite more social and kind than me. I have more troubles for socializing than him and in fact dislike people more than him. This could be interpreted in many ways, like: F for him and T for me, could be; E for him and I for me, or simply I'm more antisocial than him.

-He "accepts" people more easily than I do. I have a trend to separate people who I like and trust, becoming part of my "inner circle" and people who I do not like and/or trust, who are outside it. Although I try to be polite to everyone except if I really dislike someone in particular, I won't usually behave in the same way in front of one case of the alternative. Combined with the former point, it could suggest he belongs to a democratic quadra and I belong to an aristocratic one.

-He's more restrained and much more reserved. I can easily share personal aspects and become much more intense in my interactions (with my friends). Introversion (him) versus extroversion (me)?

-He has a bit of an utopic way of thinking, believing that people can achieve understanding between each other, achieve concensus, and the world could work appropiately if "evil people" lacks power. He understands how the world work, but simply has higher opinion of humanity and hope than myself. Although he respects different points of views, he has a morality closer to Kantian principles (something could be inherently bad or good). I'm more cynical, and closer to a consequentialist morality. When I was a teenager I believed something like "perfect society" could be achieved, I now simply understand that that's de facto impossible. So the best I can do is to try to achieve an "utopia of one person" as long as I'm not inherently damaging other people (libertarian morality?).

-Despite the former point, I tend to be more judgemental than him. As long as he does not see anything inherently evil in someone, he respects everybody. I know I have no right to impose my views in oters, but when I like something I or I dislike something I feel it and assert this more intensely. These two points could be explained in many ways, so I will not propose a cause.

-He's a direct-t-the-point person. Like most LIIs I have know IRL and most clear LIIs here (Labcoat, Logos, etc), he tends to express his ideas in a simple, clear, way. I do exactly the opposite; long explanations, never leaving the context or the steps implicit, really love introductions. He sometimes complains, when we're debating, that I overload him with so much information that he's unable to process. It's not like I'm trying to trick him, but I simply do that. I dump all the information I have connected in my mind, This also admits several interpretations, I vs E, F vs T ( in this case I would be the F) or process versus result for those of you who like Reinin (I do not but here you have anyway).

-He wants what he deserves, no more no less. If possible, he will dedicate his life to those things that make him happy, without disturbing anyone or being disturbed. I see this as an alpha behavior. I cannot (and usually want not) be happy only for the sake of being happy, like if I need a purpose in life, something relevant, not trivial. I feel a sort or need to expand myself, to project what I have inside and mold the world accordingly. This is not the same as fighting for a cause, as a LII or EII would do, for example. This could suggest some sort of betaness in myself, but I recognize I tend to see betas as too brutal. So what, unassertive beta? Gamma Ni/Se? None of this?

Well, it has been a big wall of text. Sorry if too tiring...

I would like to read opinions about this, specially how do you integrate this information in a coherent type, contradictions included.

-EDIT-

Some alternative picture for compensating:



This one could be a bit closer to my true neutral state instead those two where I'm too "grumpy".