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    Joel Sartore - Si-ESE? - potentially a rare example of an ESE male







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    ...she seems cool :)

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    Cat Stevens, now Yusuf Islam - SEI Fe subtype.

    Yusuf Islam (born Steven Demetre Georgiou, 21 July 1948), commonly known by his former stage name Cat Stevens, is a British singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist.[1] His 1967 debut album reached the top 10 in the UK, and the album's title song "Mathew and Son" charted at number 2 on the UK Singles Chart. His albums Tea for the Tillerman (1970) and Teaser and Firecat( 1971) were both certified triple platinum in the US by the RIAA. His musical style consists of folk, pop, rock, and Islamic music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Cat Stevens, now Yusuf Islam - SEI Fe subtype.
    Agreed. This is probably one of the most caregiverish songs I've heard:
     
    "Wild World"

    Now that I've lost everything to you
    You say you wanna start something new
    And it's breakin' my heart you're leavin'
    Baby, I'm grievin'
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    I hope you have a lot of nice things to wear
    But then a lot of nice things turn bad out there

    [Chorus:]
    Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
    It's hard to get by just upon a smile
    Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
    I'll always remember you like a child, girl

    You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do
    And it's breakin' my heart in two
    Because I never wanna see you a sad girl
    Don't be a bad girl
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    I hope you make a lot of nice friends out there
    But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

    [Chorus]

    Baby, I love you
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    I hope you make a lot of nice friends out there
    But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

    [Chorus]

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    On the Nature of Things: An Alpha Manifesto, by Lucretius

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    Rob Zombie - ILE 6w7? ("darksider" so/sx)




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    LII sp/so, 3w4 (?) 135 tritype


    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Agnetha Fältskog, ESE, Fe-Dominant subtype

    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Leif GW Persson, Swedish criminologist. LII Creative sub

    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    LII 1w9 so/sx the soc subtype


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    Vanessa Van Edwards - Si-SEI 3w4 (sx/so?)




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    Gary Larson (LII)

     

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    (Valentina Meged & Anatoly Ovcharov) The intuitive subtype appears a bit uncertain, and even soft, in dialogue. Not always absolute in statements, but obstinate and uncompromising in their actions. May keep silent, refrain from discussion, but their opinion will not change. Their latent emotions become visible during moments of extreme nervous pressure within intonations of their voice and impulsive gestures. In conversation are constrained, pay close attention to the interlocutor in order to give advice and to impress with their knowledge and conclusions; in such cases their serious demeanor is softened and goodwill penetrates their voice. Gait is quiet, synchronous, movements, on the contrary, are a little slow and nervous.. Pose appears restrained, gestures are avaricious and constrained, occasionally are unconsciously impulsive and badly coordinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Vanessa Van Edwards - Si-SEI 3w4 (sx/so?)
    No way!

    She seems LIE or EIE. Haven't watched that much, but SEI is just out of question.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    No way!

    She seems LIE or EIE. Haven't watched that much, but SEI is just out of question.
    An ESE friend kept giving me exactly same advice on how to modify body language to influence how people treat you. It's Sensing blocked together with Ethics, which occurs in "Democratic" quadra and peaks with SFs.

    There is no way that she is Si PoLR or "Aristocratic" type for that matter. Both EIE and LIE can safely be scratched off the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    An ESE friend kept giving me exactly same advice on how to modify body language to influence how people treat you. It's Sensing blocked together with Ethics, which occurs in "Democratic" quadra and peaks with SFs.

    There is no way that she is Si PoLR or "Aristocratic" type for that matter. Both EIE and LIE can safely be scratched off the list.
    ESE could be possible, but not SEI.

    Si PoLR is actually possible, since these types often bring up Si related topics, but they process it through stronger functions.

    For example, EIE dance teacher can be very specific on body movements, how to hold your hands, the lightness of touch etc. To the point that ordinary people give up. One gets the feeling that the Si is very "narrow" or almost "neurotic". It has to be perfect and incorporated into the movement and time. SEIs can't follow this very well because Si is processed directly, there is no "interpreting" or "narrowing" of it.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    ESFJ

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    They have good chemistry! ILE-Ne, ESE-Si:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    They have good chemistry! ILE-Ne, ESE-Si:

    Norton, SEI-Fe

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    SEIs tend to conserve their body motions, energy, and facial expressions. You can sense their Si leading-its very self preserving. Kate Middleton is a perfect example.

    Norton has these big, grand facial expressions..kind of dramatic and big hand motions. SEIs and other creative Fe are more subtle and soft in their Fe expressions.
    Fe creatives are almost demure and gentle in their speech and hand movements.

    Norton might be an ESE. Not sure his type.
    Norton describes himself as calm and boring. I see him as creative use of Fe, and not that this matters, but he doesnt annoy me like ESEs do. I could watch his show all day. ESE seem more prissy and stuck in themselves or something. Hard to describe. Not trying to be offensive, I hope you take what I say with a grain of salt.

    Gentle and demure? Sometimes yes sometimes no. I make my ESE very uncomfortable numerous times when I get in a boisterous mood and I think hes being a stuck up little princess bitch. (But I still love em)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    Stuck in themselves is the creative Si. It can seem selfish. i.e. "I'm on this new diet to eliminate inflammation so we can't eat there." or "I'm cold." or "Ugh, I hate being up late." or "I prefer the cotton sheets."
    Yup, not much more to add here.

    ESEs have a very princessy mindset even though we love big with our leading Fe. I think the creative function comes off as selfish in a lot of types.
    I think this mindset extends into Fe, but I do see your point and agree the causation of it. "I loved my new bike, but the seat was so uncomfortable...." Me: "yeah who cares you pussy, just ride it an enjoy". lol you catch my drift.

    As for Norton describing himself as boring. ESEs often think they are boring and calm. The joke is they are neither really. Well no type is boring to their own quadra or semi-dual at least.
    As soon as I said it I knew you were going to reply this way and tbh I have to agree the same thing I said for SEI could just as easily be said for ESE. I think because ESE are so centered all the time, they may miss in themselves how "dramatic" they come across. For example, Him: "I'm not dramatic at all..." Me: "come again?" I think subdued expressionism is a better term. Like how big and wide can your eyes go in mock surprise over the simplest of every day occurrences. Ofc I'm going to mock you for it. Maybe if I make my eyes REALLY REALLY REALLY big it will REALLY show you how fake surprised I am as a reaction and really demonstrate my CONCERN.

    Sorry I'm rambling now.

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    Emilia Clarke ESE-Fe?

    Film, studio, TV, and Broadway actress. In 2010 Clarke was cast as Daenerys Targaryen in the HBO fantasy series Game of Thrones
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    is this singer SEI? (or ESE?)

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    Kendall Jenner - INTJ

    Emilia Clarke - ESFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Emilia Clarke - ESFP
    emilia is to dorky for esfp

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    emilia is to dorky for esfp
    You expect type with T in polr and bad imagination (S) as extremely smart ? all F-S are m... alternatively thinking (we love you F-S s, anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    You expect type with T in polr and bad imagination (S) as extremely smart ? all F-S are m... alternatively thinking (we love you F-S s, anyway)
    I never said anything about intelligence nor imagination . Dorky=goofy/silly/fun/quick to laughter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Dorky=goofy/silly/fun/quick to laughter.
    my translator and Google say as main meaning - "stupid". same for "goofy"
    I'm not a native speaker and have no ways to understand nuances of contexts and slangs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    my translator and Google say as main meaning - "stupid". same for "goofy"
    I'm not a native speaker and have no ways to understand nuances of contexts and slangs
    Okay, well now you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Okay, well now you know.
    I know the main meaning is "stupid". And that some people may use it in other senses like having illness or funny, what changes nothing as there is no way to distinguish such situations. My recommendation is to use more basic and common terms, not the ones with a lot of different senses - such non-English speakers will understand you more correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I know the main meaning is "stupid". And that some people may use it in other senses like having illness or funny, what changes nothing as there is no way to distinguish such situations. My recommendation is to use more basic and common terms, not the ones with a lot of different senses - such non-English speakers will understand you more correctly.
    Dorky has never in my entire life in Canada ever meant stupid. It has meant a dork, a poindexter, a silly nerd, childish reactions, buck teeth, glasses held together by tape, Marty Mcfly, loud laughter about things other would consider dumb or nonsensical, the entire cast of The Big Bang Theory (all smart dorks). Educate yourself comrade.

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    ESFJ

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    Thomas Middleditch - ENTP

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    Lauren Southern - SEI-Fe so/sp




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    dude Alex - ENTP

    Lauren Southern - ENFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    dude Alex - ENTP

    Lauren Southern - ENFJ
    Those two are adorable.

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    Fe-ESE sx/sp the "seducer" sx subtype




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    Lin-Manuel Miranda SEI-Fe sub 3w2

    Lin-Manuel Miranda born January 16, 1980) is an American composer, lyricist, playwright, and actor best known for creating and starring in the Broadway musicals Hamilton and Im the Heights. He co-wrote the songs for Disney's Moana Soundtrack (2016) and is set to star in their upcoming film Mary Poppins returns. Miranda's awards include a Pulitzer Price two Grammy Awards, an Emmy Award, a Macarthur Award, and three Tony Awards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Fe-ESE sx/sp the "seducer" sx subtype



    Always considered him ST type. Would have to look further.

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    Elize Ryd - ISFP

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