Hey there honey buns, had fun last night. Talkin to you. Gonna go make some coffee now. See you in a few.
Hey there honey buns, had fun last night. Talkin to you. Gonna go make some coffee now. See you in a few.
Problem is you didn't know that when you made that thread.Originally Posted by jessica129
So what's your excuse?
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Huh?
And if that's Fe, I'm as Fe Polr as humanly possible because that is quite possibly the biggest turn off I could ever imagine.
Honestly I think that would turn off a great number of women of many types.
To me it sounds like serious dichotomy. Fi. I can't really imagine what an Fe type would have to gain from speaking any deep feelings.
Yeah and overleaping conclusions spiced with superlatives sound like Fe-Valuing, too.
You're most likely SLE like I said, just you're too high above mortals (+ a self-proclaimed rebel), hence why I'm not bothering to post in your typing threads anymore.
-- Bolt
1, I don't even know you and 2, I wish I were SLE but you're wrong.
That's kind of what I was driving at. LSIs love that kind of sappiness.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Is calling someone "sweetheart," "dear," etc. type-related? I've never been able to bring myself to do it, unless I'm joking around. Fe? Fi? NTR?
I highly doubt its Fi or Fe, the same sentences could have been written in a normal language without loosing much content/feelings and loosing a lot of "what the f*** is wrong with you" in them.would be the reaction for most people I know and I know people with various types.
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When I become someone and my opinions deserve attention, I'll come back to ask for an audience to Your Highness. Thanks for the honor of finally having one of my grievances considered!
-- Bolt
lol, nah. what do Fe types write about when they write love letters, then? or do they just never write them?
i'm pretty much indifferent...i don't mind those names nor do i expect them. my SLI boyfriend despises them. i call him names like that when i want to mess around with him, lol.
yes. as evidenced in this thread.I highly doubt its Fi or Fe, the same sentences could have been written in a normal language without loosing much content/feelings and loosing a lot of "what the f*** is wrong with you" in them.
Apparently I've done something to hurt your feelings without even knowing who you are. What have I done? Talk to me.
nah just Fe-devaluing.
Jessica, that's Pinocchio.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
The second paragraph sounds a lot like the sort of thing an ILE friend regales me with from time to time.
And okay, there's a certain language you wind up speaking with people you're close with. The surface words become a whole lot less meaningful in contrast to whatever's being said between the lines. My friend is being a drama queen but showing his affection, and that's cool.
Probably part of the reason both excerpts are so sickening is because we're just not privy to whatever context the things were said in. First paragraph is obviously someone very, very in love. We're not the person they're in love with so it's funky weird to us.
I mean, when we look at some Latin poetry it can sound SO WEIRD. "I love you with all my liver." That's crazy and over-the-top to us but that's because we're not Roman poets.
Which pretty much confirms the "not" theme that seems to be accepted by everyone here (sans Serious types who think they're Merry...
), given that your ILE friend is
The defense rests, your honor.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
it's not the context - they're a turn off to people because they're coming from someone who is unhealthy. the sentiments the person is expressing aren't real expressions of love - they're cries of neediness and insecurity barely masked as requests for affection. it is a person desperately clinging to some illusion, something they want to think is real love, but that is more likely a toxic, codependent-like attachment.
nobody likes to be around or associate themselves with an unhappy, unhealthy person. for this reason, i don't think people should be so quick to assign a type to this (unhealthy) person based on these quotes alone.
Jessica provided a context earlier in the thread.
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"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I agree completely with this.
Also, the person that is on the recieving end of these messages has specifically posted them because she's uncomfortable with the content and the way he's speaking to her. I guess they just met and whenever they'd go on a date he wouldn't say much then came home and sent these heartfelt messages. I should forward the link for true LOLs but nah
Hey Bolt, are you SEI again?
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ya, the perspective of the creeped out girl getting the letters. and given that context, the letters are pretty freaking weird and i'd be creeped out too. but i think declaring him a stalker and attributing all these awful traits to him is filling in too many blanks, i don't think we know enough to be entitled in that. (not to say i don't think it's fairly reasonable to infer.) also, why didn't she stop seeing him after the first of these letters, especially if they're so disturbing they warrant being posted on the internet and laughed at?
For some reasons I don't remember, your arrogance is in your posting history, but what exactly "hurt my feelings" in your case I don't remember, though as a rule of thumb, bullshit typing always hurts my feelings. I told you for a long time that you're Beta Irrational and that you're not LSI. The evidence that you're Irrational is all over the place (with most chances for Ep), including but not limited to the recent posts where you stated that you may get out of control in anger or laughing at inappropriate times, still claiming that you could possibly be LSI, a type basically defined by common-sense and self-control? Then fortunately, I found this post where you answered me, before you typed yourself as LSI:Make what you want out of this.
I'm not sure you're SLE, but I'm sure you're Beta Irrational, though IIRC you once considered IEI and there were quite some things against it, many I agreed with although I don't remember the details. I think both IEI and SLE would have reacted positively to my IEI-ish experimental dramatic "wisdom lesson" approach on arrogance/humbleness, which I used to draw your interest, so this is again not relevant in order to eliminate one.
The idea is that (1) types like SLI, ESI, LSI are out of the question and (2) the matter of this thread is probably your view on ESE - which in fact I partially share - rather than Fe vs Fi. It is not clear whether the problem is the Si-Creative or Fe-Base, please watch the video and the first part of this thread, part of what you said is exactly what I called "turn-off", "kinky" and "a set-up", imagine that over subdued Si/Ne! Should I call myself Fi valuer?
This would make pretty much all I had to say on the matter.
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Yeah and naming the teddy doesn't even look to be his idea. But even if the discussion followed this way: "her: I have a teddy bear. him: what's his name? her: he doesn't have a name. him: oh come on, he doesn't have a name? give him one, ok?" - she accepted anyway to do it, otherwise he wouldn't have asked whether she named him "yet". Simple deduction.
I see a match for... she actually *owns* a Teddy.
-- Bolt
I do believe that SLI and ESI are out of the question and I never meant to come across as arrogant...if me not accepting someones typing of myself is considered arrogant, then I guess I AM arrogant. I honestly don't believe I am SLE and if someone can provide me with a decent argument for this typing, I might look into it more seriously but so far the only reason I've seen for people typing me SLE is because I'm not afraid to express anger and because I like doing things and hate rules...it's like really? Come on.
^ This.
Why, precisely?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
I'm restless
I'm not a bum
Never content
Don't care about Si related things
Don't think about ethics
Don't care about rules
Flexible
Love drama
Love arguing
Love competition
Nothing about delta feels right
Nothing about gamma feels right
Don't relate to being a Caregiver
Hate contentment
Hate passiveness
Hate weakness
oh did I mention nothing about Delta fits?
I'll make this quick
Ips generally aren't as lethargic as they're made out to be.
ntr
ntr
Such as?
Not as type-related as it's made out to be. I don't consider myself to be particularly "ethical" either.
What kind of rules?
In what way?
In what way?
Deltas argue too.
ntr
Seems right to me, from what I've seen.
It's probably not.
Si as a literal "caregiver" archetype is overblown and stupid. I can especially imagine how an E6 such as yourself would resent such a label.
In what way?
Does anybody love passiveness?
Does anybody love weakness?
Last edited by Galen; 02-17-2011 at 12:35 AM.
*sigh* SLI is probably right
Well it's no good if you're saying that just out of frustration or exhaustion. If you don't legitimately think you are ISTp, then keep going through why until you're legitimately satisfied with something.
some people will never settle on a type and keep switching.
face it, your one of them.
I actually would prefer ILI over SLI. Actually, ILI is probably right. This is big news.
I thought you started with 'I finally understand socionics now'.
What did you mean with that...
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