It's good.
How many of you have at least one person in your life who is your dual?
How many of you have a significant other that is your dual?
Duality
It's good.
How many of you have at least one person in your life who is your dual?
How many of you have a significant other that is your dual?
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I have a dual friend.
I had a dual in my life until the middle of last year, but we broke up.Currently, no duals in my life other than on this forum, where I love interacting with them.
my brother is my dual. He drives me mad at timesWe're totally different but at the same time we agree on a lot of stuff. it's cool
My sister is my super ego something. I read that we're not supposed to get along well but she is easily my best bud.
oh. and my friend is istp as well. She's really easy to get along with
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My best friend is IEE. That makes me seriously doubt my type because even through we get along and it's all good, I doubt it's duality.
However, I'd say my relation with my LII friend is duality. Or semi duality, or activity. Because only after we parted did I realize just how much I depended on him for stuff. I took for grated that he will take care of things for me. It's was like something was missing, like a piece, chunk of me left as well. Like a supporting pillar left. I actually had to get use to not relying on him, not assuming he will be there for me to take care of stuff. It wasn't easy and I still don't like it, I'd much prefer to rely on him.
if youre talking about being ISTp, i have an ISTp who emails me out of the blue saying she misses me. Who knew she loved me being a little shy crab hiding in her shell.Originally Posted by snegledmaca
I know an ESE at work who makes me feel good inside. we're not friends though. There was another guy who was kind of attractive in conversation only, and i think if i spent a lot of time with him we could have dated. Definitely a subtle attraction there, and i would say based only on a mutual interest in music. You have to have something to talk about in order for duality to take effect, or maybe to have it be set in motion at a noticable speed. He left the company though before i could get closer to him.
But, I have had relations to varying degrees with Beta NFs, and i have to admit their Fe did feel pretty damn good. actually im thinking that INFp Fe feels damn good and ENFj Fe made me feel like i was being allowed to urinate or let go of my breath after a long time of not being able to.. pee or breathe. I'm not used to there being no obstacles you know.
^ fake smile.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
The two relationships I have been in have been with my duals. I currently have a good friend who is a dual. Life is just better with a dual partner
Duality isn't everything.
My life's work (haha):
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/blog.php?b=709
Input, PLEASEAnd thank you
It's close. But yeah, you're right, lol.
RIDDY CAN'T HEAR YOU ANYMORE
My best friend in my childhood was an SLI guy. At the moment, the only dual I spend time with is my brother-in-law (SLI-Si).
I've never been romantically involved with a dual. My closest relationships have been with SEI and ILI. Though I missed the opportunity with an SLI girl when I was pretty young. I was very shy back then and didn't like her to be very straight forward about it...
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
I have one friend who's a confirmed LSI and he was probably my only time experiencing duality. He's dating one of my best friends and it's always nice to hang out with both of them together.
My youngest brother is also my dual but he's such a little shit. He's ~9 years younger than I am and stopped talking to me when I gave my HD flatscreen to a friend on a long-term loan (he'd been using it with his PS3 since about a month after I bought it and apparently took losing it pretty hard).
The LSIs I meet in the big world outside mostly fly under my radar. I think I worked for one a long time ago and loved it though.
Dandelion Fluff Upon a Spoon
I don't think I could date my dual. There is so much Fe I can deal with and then I want to punch them, honestly, or gtfo so I don't have to deal with them anymore.
I've had Fe-dom friends in the past (close ones), and I can only take them in small doses. She was very healthy, tho, so it was a nice relationship (my main experience).
I honestly for these reasons don't think that socionics works as a system. How can someone dictate what works for me personally in a relationship? When it comes to describing my traits in a sufficient way, that works. That's why MBTI to me is standard.
Last edited by jet city woman; 03-23-2013 at 11:03 AM.
So um, maybe you don't value Fe?
@jet city woman are you sure you're not? You strike as much more likely that than what your profile has (
) the two look somewhat similar at a distance, but their intertype dynamics are extremely different.
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Lol, no. That's funny to me.@jet city woman are you sure you're not
It's also a type I've kinds considered for you <3
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
It may be my SO's influence more than it is the real me, that seems to come across in that fashion. I'm sincerely introverted irl, by any standard. Also I've considered that when ISTPs (in MBTI) become more comfortable, they become more like ESTPs, and that seems to be the case for me at times.
I don't have an SO
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Kham, duals are us, they are our subconscious reality and hence they are us; their baggage isn't us us; I say their baggage wasn't acquired by innate traits, therefore, it would be nice if they shook it off and moved on, otherwise they're not going to find a dual.
I've had a dual since I was born. I love her; I'm very responsive to her as she is to me. Before I discovered Socionics, I only dated SLI, LSI and SLE, and lately an ESE man, because they were very quick in grabbing me off the market and since the types are full of loving, protective men, I didn't mind at all dating them, but I've felt unhappy not because some were not wonderful, but because the program function wasn't there; the ESE expected me to make decisions, which I could but he never cared much about appropriateness of behaviors, or watching the actions from a rationalized/Judging perspective. I've felt half complete and Socionics, for me, was just a way of describing what I felt that I could not describe. You'll often hear that from people who seek out advice, from duals, from people, that they want to be told what they are feeling but can not describe...these things that make up our subconscious wishes, intentions, and desires.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I have an esfp boss/friend, a few esfp clients, some loved male duals (long distance) I am attracted to (one I'm pursuing right now), and several female ESFp friends I adore. They are supportive and life-enriching, and they keep me from having a chance to get back to the depression which was my companion before they came in my life.
My Esfp childhood best friend and I haven't always seen eye to eye on a lot of things, but she's incredibly loyal, sassy, and humane and I'm glad to have her.
I am trying to make a better relationship with my Esfp mother.
when I was a kid I used to wish my best friend's mom was mine (she's ESFP i think) and was on of the coolest, most supportive moms I've met.
instead I'm stuck with a neurotic, childish, temper-tantrum mess of a mom who sucks at giving any kind of advice and turns everything into being about her and has mini crises about nothing on a daily basis. I always felt like I was the adult and she was the child. (ESE-Fe..) though I feel bad for her because my dad is a dick.
My mom is "in love" with this guy: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/al...to-kilcher.htm. we watched this show together a few times and she says he has to be one of the funniest men alive. And basically she wishes she married someone like him. (he's totally LII)
anywho.
life huh.
Correction: My pastor is NOT INFj. He is ENFp. But there are a few EII women at church and my "significant other" is my dual.
Jesus
I think Jung called Jesus not real and a god of death at the same time to state that we should love ourselves for in doing so we love Jesus, that is, Jesus is in us...
I don't know (or haven't identified yet) any duals besides my mom. She's a nice woman, but well, she's my mom LSE and I'm not so perfect teenage girl.
She constantly complains how bad, lazy, shallow, unappreciative I am and how I ruined her life. She also thinks I'm a psychopath, which is just... pretty hard to appreciate duality with. But I know I've been a hard and defiant child when I was growing up (and probably still am a bit).
um ok my mom would say opposite of me; isn't your mom emotional? how could you stand to hurt them?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
you mean if she's ethical? I'm pretty sure she's logical and LSE.
The thing with me is that I've always been too carefree and detached to actually notice hurting my parents. I used to be very egocentric too.
well, I guess I'm still egocentric, but I try not to give them more reasons to worry anymore and to do everything what's demanded of me. I don't like hurting or fighting with others. I'm just too reserved I guess. It hurts her that I don't help her at home spontaneously even though she's busy and I only think about myself most of the time. but I'm just my own person. I don't want to dedicate my life to anybody else and I hate people interfering in it.
Thanks for the kind words. That's what I think. I hope things work out for me and I'll move out of my parents' house quick. I think it would be good for my relationship with them.
no not ethical type, but an emotional person. Logical types have emotions.
I think if you can't notice emotions of others you need to consider another type, maybe in the carefree dichotomy.
Typically EII are good about helping their parents, loved ones. I don't think you care much about doing Fi, managing relationships, harmonizing them around you, meeting the goals of other, pleasing people
According to my Fi, it's not appropriate for you to just go about your own carefree business and let your relations suffer and then resort to just providing physical distance as a way to "solve" your problems. Where are your ethics?
"Fi relations are a tactic, a bond, a unification made inside of and in relation to all of the other existing unities between people. Within it there are certain rules and understandings of what is appropriate and not appropriate to do within the realm of ethics. It's not as simple as "oh, don't use dirty words." Its more like 'we are attracted to eachother (as a bond),' and, sometimes, 'we are not attracted to them.'"
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You'd think there would be some level of natural magnetism between duals, increasing the chances of them at least initiating some sort of intense relationship, negative or otherwise. However, I don't think I've ever been in a friendship or a relationship with a person of my respective dual type. Maybe one time, but that crazy son of a bitch may have been an SEE. He was like a 7w8 version of woofwoofl.
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Last edited by RedBeard; 05-31-2013 at 03:25 PM.
The trickster is at one and the same time creator and destroyer, giver and negator, he who dupes others, and who is always duped himself.
Is this confirmation that dual communication can be good and bad. Oh my how I've waited for this day.
Ease of communication just opens up the floodgates for more negative bullshit.
Very few people avert their eyes from train wrecks
The trickster is at one and the same time creator and destroyer, giver and negator, he who dupes others, and who is always duped himself.
Duality has nothing to do with physical, mental, or emotional chemistry. It doesn't even necessarily mean better communication as the theory suggests. The idea that we are 'receptive' to certain kinds of communication is one I have found more highly dubious as time goes on. In reality, it seems that people are receptive to different kinds of communication at different points in their lives. Whether or not someone 'needs' a certain type of communication, as Socionics suggests, is a matter of debate. It is packaged very nicely, but even on a theoretical level the low-side of 'compatible' pairings are often downplayed. For instance, the difference in logical and emotional thinking, even through Ti-Fe, and Te-Fi, will still have certain frictions because of the polarizing nature of the two. This is hardly ever mentioned or extrapolated on.
Relationship compatibility is best assessed through other factors. Socionics makes it easy to justify that duality is real through rationalizations, but objectively it is difficult for me to be sure that any observations of this sort are anything more than coincidence.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" isand not
I've seen that before, my SLI brother in law is also highly doubtful about Socionics. But I think it all comes down about expecting stuff to be very detailed. Socionics doesn't predict a script for behaviour. A person may like another but at the same time be so distracted about something else that isn't capable of noticing it. Not all what we do is determined by type.
I've never seen Socionics to fail in its essence and I've been observing stuff with a critical eye for many years.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
My little brother. He's LIE or ILI-Te. We like to argue about different points and then come to conclusions together. It's basically just really hard to disagree for too long. We both have strong se so we had a few power struggles growing up which were mostly just hilarious. Also some of my uncles are gamma nt's and possibly one aunt. I have a big family. I think the difference in the interactions are just that we notice what each are talking about and respond positively more often than in the other relations.
Great post Carrina
On a sarcastic note thanks for rehashing a thread with one of my "you're not EII" and here goes Maritsa bashing
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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