@pinkcanary would you more prefer I do your male or female list?
@pinkcanary would you more prefer I do your male or female list?
I also found only my own composite attractive. Which was really reassuring in a way; I expected them all to be very similar to each other and somehow "objectively" attractive. It's nice to see that even very different looking people can be found truly attractive and even ideal by someone.
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TOO LATE I ALREADY MADE THE COMPOSITE WITH ETHAN HAWKE IN IT YOU'RE FUCKED
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Last edited by pinkcanary; 06-17-2015 at 11:21 PM.
Hey, there ain't no shame in that. If I can find a guy with this face-shape as highly attractive then you're allowed to have your tastes too.
Ah yeah, I can definitely see that.
No prob yo
I think it's more likely that most people will react positively to the composites of others, but still not favour them. We all prefer some facial features over others and this will probably result in a clear trend throughout the people we choose. When I compare both composites you made, I'd actually prefer the first one. Even though the women I added are very attractive individually, they may have smoothed out "that certain something". The changes are not fundamental, but the first composite looks considerably more expressive and likeable to me.
I think this is known, but anyway:
fewer people used for a composite --> more individual features --> more polarized reactions
more people used --> smoothed out features --> somewhat positive reactions, but mostly indifferent
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
I do agree that the first one is more appealing, but I think that could be due to several factors, not the least of which being the faces used. I tried to experiment with different facial expressions for each of the faces to generate different outcomes, but there's still some changes I can make to improve it. If you look at Ashton's composites for example, both use the exact same people but the second one has some faces swapped out for more positive expressions, and the results were quite dramatic. I'm sure there's further editing I can do to yours, as well as some others if they express dissatisfaction with how theirs came out (Kim comes to mind here as well, maybe munenori if he comes up with a different list). That said, some people's facial expressions don't have that much variety, so in some cases you're kinda stuck with what you get at face value.
Other than that, I find that eye contact with the camera can make a huge difference in perceived attractiveness. If they're unfocused or cross-eyed/wall-eyed then it can convey a sense of disengagement with the audience, so while the physical shape of the face may be appealing it'll still be passed up. This is why I like to fix the direction of a composite's gaze, but it's a pretty time consuming process and I haven't gotten it down pact yet. The program I'm using also has different algorithms for how the composites are constructed, and I try to mess with these and find which ones work best. The last big factor I can see is quality of the image itself. If the fine lines are fuzzy and details and the contrast is blurred, it won't "pop" as much as one with sharper lines.
I think the newest faces used in yours Pa3s are notably less muted than the ones you selected previously, and since the number of faces total went up by about 50% it, for all intents and purposes, became a very different person.
How does this look?
EDIT: just edited mine again because I discovered the sharpen function exists oh boy oh boy. Probably way oversaturated it but I don't care
Last edited by Galen; 01-03-2013 at 03:04 AM.
Yeah, I think you're right. The image quality/facial expression of the individual pictures certainly influences the outcome in a significant way. And I saw that you used 20 people for your composite and still find enough individual features to find it attractive, so I guess the argument of "too many faces used" might not be appropriate. But maybe you were more consistent in your choice, so the features you liked could be found in most men and therefore, also in the finished composite without being watered down too much.
The result might be better if I made an actual ranking and only the top 8 were used (that would be quite difficult, though).
I'd say she looks like #2, but happier. (You probably used exactly the same people so this is not surprising.) But even this version can't beat the original one. Thanks for trying, though!
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Here are 10:
Angelina Jolie
Nicole Kidman
Kristen Bell
Julia Roberts
Emma Watson
Megan Fox
Olivia Wilde
Audre Hepburn
Cameron Diaz
Anne Hathaway
Me, me, me!!! Please and thanks.
In no particular order:
Dan Stevens
Chris Pine
Iker Casillas
David Boreanaz
Colin Firth
Gael Garcia Bernal
James Stewart
Gregory Peck
Young Sean Connery
Eduardo Verástegui
Wentworth Miller
Jensen Ackles
Brad Pitt
Tom Hardy
Hugh Dancy
Sorry for the delay, here's @momental
I see a shitton of Angelina Jolie in that one
So the guy Galen made looks a lot like a deathly version the one I made here: http://www.faceresearch.org/demos/average
I didn't expect that kind of consistency since I don't think very much about what people look like.
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ohhh i like scapegraces.
the other day a couple men popped in my head that would be more suitable for this kind of experiment - compelling in vibe/personality & not just pretty - and i was going to keep them in mind but now i forgot already.
Have your dogs set up a selection of male faces and then note which images cause your pupils to dilate when viewed, indicating (sexual) interest. A pattern of preferred features will emerge.
Good idea.
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Oh cool, I didn't know faceresearch changed their faces. Lemme try lemme try
But are they our duals?
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So far mine is the most attractive of everybody's. Most interesting
It's kinda tempting to make a Ghost Busters joke here but I'll going to let it go.
When you make your templates from scratch, you have to punch in each point in the same place in the same order (left pupil, right pupil, center of mouth, etc). What the program does is generate an average of each set of points, where a set comprises of points created at different points within the order. This means that the 1st point you create in each template gets averaged between each other, and same for the 2nd, 3rd, and so on. When each point is put in the same relative area on the face, these averages blend together evenly; when a couple are out of order, the program morphs the face so that the points you put in add up, but without respect to what part of the face you placed them on. Hence, blobman.
I create my templates in the following order (it's not terribly efficient, but this is roughly how faceresearch.org does theirs):
- Left pupil
Right pupil
Center of mouth, between lips (if mouth is open, then right below the upper lip)
Bottom of lower lip
Left corner of mouth
Right corner of mouth
Bottom of nose
Left nostril
Right nostril
Outer corner of left/right eye
Inner corner of left/right eye
Top + bottom of left eye (at the iris)
Top + bottom of right eye
Outer end of left/right eyebrow
Inner end of left/right eyebrow
Top of left/right eyebrow arch
Point where top of left/right ear meets face
Point where bottom of left/right ear meets face
Left/right jaw hinge
Bottom of chin
Left/right point on image where neck and jawline intersect
Top of forehead
Left/right temple
It's a shit ton of work, but once you get into the flow it goes pretty quick.
Also fwiw I don't do any auto-delineation. I think I've seen the function but never messed with it, or it never worked or something. I should probably mess with it, might make everything go quicker if it actually works.
No please, I insist
I can see the similarity between the face Galen made for me and this one.
Last edited by Raver; 01-15-2013 at 06:11 AM. Reason: uploaded to imgur
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it's all clear now, thank you!
and wow, I didn't realize you did it all manually. what I was doing was auto-delineating the images and then editing them to be more precise (as the auto-delineations often draw the lines and points way off where they should be), creating different numbers of points and lines for certain images - thus giving me the unsatisfactory results.
hmmm, that was very difficult. I found that i had to spend quite some time looking through the images so that i could assign characters to their faces. I did one for male and one for female. I did attempt to mix up the genders but found that i preferred them separate...which is interesting (to me). Also i noted my female was fairly similar to korpsy's and my male fairly similar to dolphins.
All in all i was not overly satisfied, the images do not have any great meaning.
male
Female
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There are a few women among them who are very pretty individually, imo.
I see a lot of similarity to @Raver's picture.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Here's mine.
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@fairylights made a nice boy