How does it have no basis? Se is force sensorics and directness lol. Socionics literature uses these terms always in describing Se, and xII are always described as gentle and indirect. xIIs abhor and do not generate or respond (well) to force and directness. How would you expect to see Se in body language then if not this way?
Most of the time, yes... but if I speak for myself I behave this way not all the time.
If I see a reason for I do respond well to force.
Ok, but I'm not that good at typing somebody from VI alone, I need to hear the emotional expressions in the voice of a person to form a conclusion.
I wouldn't describe LII as gentle or indirect too. That doesn't even sound like Se-polr. It sounds like a feeling type description.
Then you don't rate objective reality as VI experimentally proved (in my experiment about which I said here many times) to be useful for typing, giving the typing matches higher than random and close to other methods. With better skills in it its use is easier to notice. Also you ignore original Socionics texts where impressions from nonverbal are mentioned as important. And ignore IR theory as it works through nonverbal too, what should be evident from the texts.
Those who reject VI - reject it irrationally and heretically. Mostly because having issues with noticing the corresponded impressions from nonverbal due to own lame typings and magical and heretical believes that intuition can't give correct information and only "smart words" reasonings may give the truth.
N types are gentle in the perception of S types, at least.
Also having better imagination N types may choose lesser evident and direct ways to influence, to be more creative in overcoming possible opposing. S types having better will act more directly, in general.
> It sounds like a feeling type description.
in case "gentle" was related to emotions, what is not obligately
Last edited by Sol; 10-29-2018 at 04:05 PM.
I added this to my post while you were responding:
”xIIs abhor and do not generate or respond (well) to force and directness.”
Meanwhile, Ni lead types would be more unconsciously direct and attached than Ni polrs, showing more direct eye contact and directed forceful movements for instance. Ni creative people would use direct force and contact often, unconsciously, but with less fine motor proficiency (Si polr).
Yes, all N types should have similar body language in the sense of not being strongly involved/present in their environments. That’s definitely a part of Socionics literature, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. You don’t think this is the case I guess? But you don’t put stock in VI anyway apparently, so I’m not sure how you’re expecting your opinion in this discussion to be taken seriously, or why you’re putting energy into entering it.
It is impossible to tell the difference between Se-polr and general weak Se, and furthermore between weak Se/Se seeking and weak Se/ignoring,demonstrative, with such limited information. SLI or SEI aren't Se valuing and can be considered Se "weak", but not polr.
I suggest a new video with some Se thrown in, like with some lions or tigers, or trump, or some shit.
I think to say it’s impossible is exaggerating a lot, but obviously more information is always better. I’ve interacted with hag quite a bit and have known her for a while now. While she’s great, she’s also quite obviously Ne valuing to anybody who’s talked to her or even just seen her shoutbox posts, and I’m pretty sure her demonstrative Ni could bend spoons and enter God’s lifestream and unconsciously pre-emptively deflect tigers and lions from reaching her vicinity. Just my 2cents.
I just consulted the crystal ball I purchased for $49.99 from an obscure socionics practitioner. Jung answered and he said that he finds V.I. dubious and subject to misuse, he does agree that more information is needed to type.
Impossible wasn't the best choice of words. I didn't mean to exaggerate. Inconclusive would have been better, due to the lack of information available.
But, if you had more interactions, you have more info to base your conclusions on.
There are several types which are expected to give positive impression.
In case you'd be SLI. The conflictors (EIE possibility) may attract on the distance too. Orderer (LII) is not good for friendly relations what ruins your argument, though those people may to have other types easily.
it's clear, that her type is not EII
compare her with EII examples of bloggers, instead of senseless reasonings
@Sol Have you ever considered just writing your posts in original Russian and letting other people run them through translate apps or browser functions themselves? Just a thought I had.
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I love the way that you think! I agree that in some cases it gets really ambiguous. I think the bottom line is supposed to be that Se for an Se ego is conscious, physical and highly controlled. Se for an Ni ego is still physical, but it is unconscious (being in the Super-Id), and highly uncontrolled.
I guess ESI a also possible. Do u relate more to 4 or 1?
next time record audio from a separate source, and sync tracks in a video editor like Lightworks (which is free)
altho tbh it's probably just easier to troubleshoot your issue starting w/ your audio input settings and doing some tests w/ different configurations to see what works. more than likely the audio source was set to either an unused device, or the device setting was correct but the mic itself broken, or who knows. hard to say w/o knowing how it was recorded
Lol. The truth is, I think you look pretty hot, and since that happens almost never with my duals, I assume you are some other type. Maybe the hotness is because you are close to my Imago, or it’s one fire sign (Aries) to another (Leo), IDK. I just didn’t see any of the micro-expressions in your video that I associate with ESI’s. Could be that you are ESI and I’m just working from a very limited base.
I will say that your writing often seems ESI, but not always.
I still should review your typing questionnaire, if you made one.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
@hag, yes, except one where you've filled out your answers.
SLI could be it. And yes, Ni is body wide botox shot state.
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