ENTp jobs/careers/occupations: what do fellow ILEs do for a living?

[Galen]

Pornographic movie translator.

Redubbing English porn into Japanese and/or the other way around.

[Lobo]

Research professor is one that I think suits the type well. My graduate advisor seemed like he was very happy. The issue I did notice is that he chose a very laissez-faire approach towards his grad students which made one feel without any guidance, and sometimes preferred to instill passion in his class students rather than follow the course material. On the other hand, another ENTp research professor I had would choose a controlling and grating way to have his grad students be successful in research, and always played devil's advocate to an annoying degree.

Academia seems like a good place for Ne-Ti types in general.

[Crispy]

Anything that brings to the world completely new ideas. Entrepreneur, Scientist, etc.

[Slacker]

I have an ILE friend who does marketing for a bank, and another who is in sales for a pharmaceutical company. Don't know if there's a particular good job for them.

[Nowisthetime]

I know many ILEs who are into bio-sciences. Like biology, biotechnology, biochemistry, one is in physical chemistry. Maybe it's because of Si dual seeking that they are drawn to this? Many also like linguistics.

[Quaris]

video game commentator(this guy is 100% ILE):

[Creepy-Snaps]

What is the career that best fits the ENTp's talents or abilities?

ENTp? Career? ..... isn't that an oxymoron?

C'mon, we all know ENTps will jump around to many different careers during their lives. Following one idea after another.

[The Exception]

Socionist.

[SlavaPHP]

Can anyone suggest a good ENTp-T job?

[HandiAce]

Tell us what you've considered as a career and WHY.

For example, I pursued science because I wanted to gain more understanding of somethings that I didn't initially so I'm better versed at explaining things to other people.

[SlavaPHP]

something enjoyable that brings good and pays a decent amount

[SlavaPHP]

I'm sorry, but I won't be able to give you a good suggestion until you figure out what you want. If you go up to a ticket counter at the airport, and you ask for a ticket to 'someplace enjoyable with decent sunshine', are you really taking your future in your own hands?

Before asking for suggestions for jobs, I suggest starting with the end in mind. Try to think and visualize more specifically what you would like to be doing. Or answer more of the questions I asked in my above post. This may take a few hours to REALLY think about this, paint an idea for the next 5 years of your life, but it will be worth it.

That's what travel agents are for

[krieger]

look into Business Intelligence. an ENTp friend who describes himself as "data-horny" said this was his ideal field.

you can grow into a data scientist through this (probably after a lot of additional education); which is allegedly the sexiest job of 2013.

[SlavaPHP]

I'm not even 100% sure im ENTp

[Blaze]

good that ILE gets a bit of recognition. this one struck a chord - this is how many ILE's function at work, and maybe other so-called "periferal types" do as well.

http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/05/idea..._new_21st.html

[Iris]

good that ILE gets a bit of recognition. this one struck a chord - this is how many ILE's function at work, and maybe other so-called "periferal types" do as well.

http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/05/idea..._new_21st.html

Interesting article. Would you say it is typical of an ILE to be more interested in the development of an idea for the greater good than in aquiring wealth or power? It makes sense to me in that Se is unvalued in ILEs.

[ClownsandEntropy]

Interesting article. Would you say it is typical of an ILE to be more interested in the development of an idea for the greater good than in aquiring wealth or power? It makes sense to me in that Se is unvalued in ILEs.

I think it would be typical of an ILE to be interested in developing an idea for the sake of creating the idea, or to solve an idea. So I guess the idea of being able to solve a "problem" within the world might appeal to them, which may lend itself to wanting to do something for the greater good. But I still think it comes down to the development of the idea for one's own curiosity's sake and intellectual satisfaction.

[Blaze]

This isn't exclusively an ILE domain, but a lot of ILE's live there. LII, EII, other Ne ego types also are in this crowd. Thought it was cool how this phenom got some public recognition for a change. Usually it's all about the so called powerful people, and politicians. The author wrote a book about it that seems promising. It's a guide on how to maximize this social role, a sort of how to use and leverage your strengths for mavericks. Sometimes a lot of time is spent here discussing weak psychological functions.....article and book a tonic.

If you find it useful....enjoy!

[Blaze]

Interesting article. Would you say it is typical of an ILE to be more interested in the development of an idea for the greater good than in aquiring wealth or power? It makes sense to me in that Se is unvalued in ILEs.

Yes when it comes right down to it I don't want to do the things you have to do to obtain and maintain power over people.....I'd rather their actions be guided to an idea that is an icon for thoughts, actions, and behavior. Ideas last for centuries.....power comes and goes, tragic empires rise and fall. Ideas drive progress and create cultural contracts and covenants. Ideas are for everyone, not just the power elite.

[yeves]

Socionist.

lol it doesn't pay very well

unless you can make people pay for typing. so many searching for their types - there is a niche open right there.

[ArchonAlarion]

I am a Ti-sub entp and I'm a student currently. I research mostly economics, history, computer science, sociology, psychology stuff.

A "career" would bore the shit out of me. If I could get paid for predicting future trends and writing sci-fi stuff I would be contented. Fat chance at that though. Paying the government as little money as possible is my short term goal now. My long-term goal is living on a sea-stead in the pacific ocean and working on strategy for a private government company or a D.A.C. (distributed autonomous corporation).

[ClownsandEntropy]

I research mostly economics, history, computer science, sociology, psychology stuff.

That. Is. AWESOME.

[xerx]

Atm. I'm a software and electronics engineer but don't plan on doing it for the rest of my life. I... uh, a career isn't for me. I started fantasizing about other possibilities within five minutes of getting hired. Oh, and fuck the daily grind.

[Amber]

Atm. I'm a software and electronics engineer but don't plan on doing it for the rest of my life. I... uh, a career isn't for me. I started fantasizing about other possibilities within five minutes of getting hired. Oh, and fuck the daily grind.

I'm Ne polr. ..unless you meant you dislike your job and will look for smth. that turns you on.

[xerx]

I'm Ne polr.

That's good for you. I wasn't making a statement of correlation between functions and my attitude towards work. I'm just here to talk about myself.

[Suz]

I'm a physician, also trying to be a researcher. Would like to start out in academia, just because there's a lot more variety (potentially)... otherwise i have to go into private practice and see 40 patients a day. Not my idea of doing justice for each patient and it would seriously turn into a grind.

Similar to some of you here, I too have made some major switches (albeit within my field). I initially was going to train in one specialty, started it, realized it wasn't for me, and switched out as fast as I possibly could. I joined a lab last year, boss turned out to be a micromanaging ogre, switched out ASAP, like Friday I was there, Monday <poof> I was gone, almost like i'd never been there. I relate to what someone in this thread said about Ne causing dumb choices at times --that's exactly what happened, both times.

Oh, and I would die of tedium if i had to do accounting (or be a programmer). Despite the annoying rigidity in schedules, the physical demand, the busywork of documentation, etc, medicine is great in that there is a lot of variety and minimal boredom.

[lemontrees]

I'm a physician, also trying to be a researcher. Would like to start out in academia, just because there's a lot more variety (potentially)... otherwise i have to go into private practice and see 40 patients a day. Not my idea of doing justice for each patient and it would seriously turn into a grind.

Similar to some of you here, I too have made some major switches (albeit within my field). I initially was going to train in one specialty, started it, realized it wasn't for me, and switched out as fast as I possibly could. I joined a lab last year, boss turned out to be a micromanaging ogre, switched out ASAP, like Friday I was there, Monday <poof> I was gone, almost like i'd never been there. I relate to what someone in this thread said about Ne causing dumb choices at times --that's exactly what happened, both times.

Oh, and I would die of tedium if i had to do accounting (or be a programmer). Despite the annoying rigidity in schedules, the physical demand, the busywork of documentation, etc, medicine is great in that there is a lot of variety and minimal boredom.

aw you identify as ILE now

[Suz]

aw you identify as ILE now

yeah...the more i read about ILEs the more convinced i am. i think i just misunderstood the Fi IE this whole time. I'm really good with people so and i had this stereotype of ILEs being the socially inept computer geeks i used to see dressed in all black in college. Or the know-it-all geeks who pick arguments to show how smart they are. Both entities annoy me and i dont identify with them, but looks like that's not the case!

[lemontrees]

yeah...the more i read about ILEs the more convinced i am. i think i just misunderstood the Fi IE this whole time. I'm really good with people so and i had this stereotype of ILEs being the socially inept computer geeks i used to see dressed in all black in college. Or the know-it-all geeks who pick arguments to show how smart they are. Both entities annoy me and i dont identify with them, but looks like that's not the case!

lol

i kids in black and know-it-all geeks

but I don't think that being ILE means that someone has to be like that

glad to see you feel like you've found a home!

[Suz]

lol

i kids in black and know-it-all geeks

but I don't think that being ILE means that someone has to be like that

glad to see you feel like you've found a home!

you're so nice...nicer than me!

the impression i've gotten from most of the ILEs here as i've been browing the alpha forum is that they are just normal, reasonable, articulate people.

[lemontrees]

you're so nice...nicer than me!

to be fair, i only like them if they're reasonably well-groomed i'm fond of caveman (/woman)- lite.

the impression i've gotten from most of the ILEs here as i've been browing the alpha forum is that they are just normal, reasonable, articulate people.

If you feel that way, you must really be ILE...

[Suz]

This crap makes me want to puke.

OK and your point being?

[some chair]

This crap makes me want to puke.

Why, because it doesn't follow the weird Westernonincs diversion that where Fi is in your model A determines how autistic/schizophrenic you are?

[trifling nincompoop]

Now THAT'S a projection.

No, it just seems artificial and fake to me. That's all.

the power of emoticons compels you

[trifling nincompoop]

^^This is off topic, sorry everyone.

btw if you hadnt noticed yet off topic is good in these parts

[trifling nincompoop]

Hehe

On a note totally unrelated to this thread, if someone's brain tries to commit harakiri whenever they get off topic, could that be related to cognitive functions in any way?

i can see that being possible its funny tho because Ti is related to categorizations but i dont think thats what were looking for more like some kinda of situational awareness could be Te or Ne
Te likes order and possibly has an aversion to things that dont belong now where the function is placed to cause such aversions could simply be anywhere conscious or a seeking function
now for Ne if Se is the awareness of the objective physical world Ne is the awareness of the objective conceptual world (concepts that can be studied apart from the subject where as times is subjective potentiality is not) and when there are things that dont contain certain qualities being shown off as if they do Ne will notice and you must notice something before you can judge it

now why i choice Ne and not Se is because Ne is more about ideas if idea A doesnt not have quality X Y Z its outa there but obviously things can be off topic in the physical world although i dont think this is what you are looking for

[Suz]

I have moved on.

And this is beyond the understanding of everyone valuing different information elements. This is about someone who you believe values one thing but is purposefully acting differently and not being real.

So I voiced what I felt.

iIm not acting any differently... i think the difference you are perceiving is all in your head.

[Suz]

btw if you hadnt noticed yet off topic is good in these parts

LOVE.

[mu4]

I have moved on.

And this is beyond the understanding of everyone valuing different information elements. This is about someone who you believe values one thing but is purposefully acting differently and not being real.

So I voiced what I felt.

I think your perception of her has changed more than her behavior, as well as your behavior. I've always typed her ILE, ever since I started interacting with her 4 years ago, and I just didn't mention it because I wasn't sure and I didn't want to get into a bit battle typing with others. IEE's actually use a lot more and ethics than ILE's and are in many ways more "fake" to me. WA has to me always been a frank and genuine person.

[Suz]

I think your perception of her has changed more than her behavior, as well as your behavior. I've always typed her ILE, ever since I started interacting with her 4 years ago, and I just didn't mention it because I wasn't sure and I didn't want to get into a bit battle typing with others. IEE's actually use a lot more and ethics than ILE's and are in many ways more "fake" to me. WA has to me always been a frank and genuine person.

Thanks, i feel the same re: you.