Would ILI be least likely to offer spoken affirmation? SEE are not great at it other imo.
IME LIEs don't have this problem, they can be quite affirming. What about other types?
Affirmation in Gamma
Would ILI be least likely to offer spoken affirmation? SEE are not great at it other imo.
IME LIEs don't have this problem, they can be quite affirming. What about other types?
Last edited by Delilah; 09-05-2017 at 09:13 PM.
ILI need more information
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......Do not look to the ILI for sustained affirmation abilities, although they exist to some extent.
Ok when ILI is not affirming at all - conversely, ESE does it best. I do think that fits. LIE is also too impersonal, SEE would be the one able to give affirmation (ass-kicking in their case) the most in Gamma with their strong ethics.
ILI does next to zero affirming. ILI<ESI<LIE<SEE
When an ILI wants to be genuine and show support for loved ones and professional relationships, affirmation may indeed be present. It may be required.
It´s not the best quadra for affirmation, although it may depend a bit on the context - LIEs can be quite affirming (sp?) during a specific activity, like boosting the morale, but are probably not that good at consoling people - too impersonal, as Chae said.
SEEs can both be quite affirming and quite destructive depending on their personal desires/mood.
However, ILIs are really good at putting things in perspective. If you´re having a really negative moment and making mountains out of molehills, a ILI can easily calm you down and convince you that the situation is quite normal and will get back to its...well..normal not that great but ok state
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Wrong!Originally Posted by darya
Nonsense.
One of the more affirming types (LIE, SEE) need to create an example for something we could all relate to, then affirming/or not for each type, and then we actual types can give our explanation for our own opinion.
If you want affirmation just pay for it
Like hookers?
I don`t need affirmation. Meybe becouse i`m 7
Sure, an example, something simple as paying compliments on your appearance etc; ILI i know was very bad at this. Something more complex maybe would be that I found out ILI was also bad at affirming any long term achievements say a milestone in one's experience; there's more but need to dig in my memory to list them all.
I love many compliments. Sometimes people lie (i know that very well) but I not care about their intentions.
more like motivational speakers or do you think they do their motivational speeches for free?
I would prefer not to ever have to affirm people. I prefer my own knowledge whether those people are good/competent etc...
But sometimes you need to support people. Then if you need to give affirmation, the most important thing is the timing, not the content...
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Honestly to be normal with compliments is not hard. You just pay attention to people. Then sometimes you give honest compliment.
The fewer you give, the more meaningful... but do not give so few that nobody remembers.
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I don't like compliments. Intentions are everything to me.
I don't like compliments from my husband even, too shallow, I want my intelligence complimented. There are some times when I wouldn't mind one (how I look, or something I did) I don't get any then though.
I get compliments on food I make at home, those are usually focused on aspects of it that aren't worthy, but the worthy aspect is usually ignored.
As it goes, compliments generally hit my Polr [FE] and that's bad. ILI-Ni
Sometimes iei will explicitly ask for me to say something to cheer him up or congratulate him for a success and I try but everything comes out sounding like a flat cheesy infomercial even though I really do mean it. I'm very rarely in a state for it to come out naturally :/ I think my complete derpiness with this stuff doesn't come across online because I don't have to worry about tone of voice etc.
He goes over the top with compliments and I can be really skeptical and blow them off and he thinks it's bcuz I'm too hard on myself or something when really I'm like "why? What r u doing?" But. They seep into my feelings anyway.
Probably. They are called "the critic" for a reason. Im gonna use myself as an example here, even though its probably not a good idea but i dont think i know (or knew) any other ILIs so its better than nothing:
ILIs are negativist, meaning they are not looking fot the positive in life, but the negative. They strive not for positivity, but for the absence of negativity.
This means that they pretty much always have something negative to say about your potential endeavours, especially because they can see it coming from a mile away through their ni and, unlike their IEI counterparts, see it through a rather objective and harsh perspective (te instead of fe).
Theyd rather give constructive criticism in a brutally honest way than let you blindly walk of a cliff and "feel affirmed" to so it. Always take what we say with a grain of salt though, ni isnt always accurate, and oftwn ILIs regret that they didnt take action because they only saw the negative that could happen, instead of the positive. And of course, you learn from your mistakes, so not trying at all might also be a mistake sometimes.
If you need affirmation for affirmations sake ILI isnt your type. If you want to hear what they think is the brutal truth on the matter youre more than welcome to hear us out.
Affirmation for affirmations sake could be sought in ethical types. Mainly fe egos i think. Its a people pleasing thing. Also dont look for affirmation in ni leads, they also, like the ILI tend to "foresee"/anticipate bad events. So probably fe + si ego is best at it (or possibly se + fi) while te + ni is worst at it i guess
I think the same, but I learned to ignore false compliments. I do not know, I sense it. But I do not have a motive for anybody's intentions, so I learned to ignore false people or, if I have the intention, I can sense others' proficiency. These are things I can not do anything about. I do not poison myself this life.
He respects people who can stand for honesty with themselves, me, other people. I abhor a lie, etc. There are things for me that I can not give up, I demand. If someone does not meet these requirements, I simply restrict the contact. Life's a waste of poisonous people.
Also, I always look for intentions. I evaluate them and respond accordingly. No reaction in me is also reaction - just someone turned out not worth it.
It is not like ILI sees only what is bad. Good things I can foresee too. And you don`t?
This is exactly why some of my best friends are ILI, as are my tax attorneys and my therapist. They counterbalance my optimism with some hard facts. I've found that ESI's can do that, too, but you have to really ask them, because they tend not to volunteer their negativism. Instead, they wait for me to propose some crazy endeavor, and then they start asking questions about what happens when this or that goes wrong.
The critic is only one version, there are many others. There are certainly people that are more "negative" than ILI. That is the perception of those who do not value truth and knowledge to the same degree. This is not the same thing as being a dick, which lacks empathy and compassion and criticizes just to antagonize.
The critic is a stereotype and does not apply to all ILIs.
FDG, i've found the bolded true, even if i err on considering them not very affirming since they can be so hard on anyone in a way. I'm surprised at that since they're both emotion-creating and positivists in Reinin. I guess their irrational personality makes them unpredictable and difficult to put up with.It´s not the best quadra for affirmation, although it may depend a bit on the context - LIEs can be quite affirming (sp?) during a specific activity, like boosting the morale, but are probably not that good at consoling people - too impersonal, as Chae said.
SEEs can both be quite affirming and quite destructive depending on their personal desires/mood.
However, ILIs are really good at putting things in perspective. If you´re having a really negative moment and making mountains out of molehills, a ILI can easily calm you down and convince you that the situation is quite normal and will get back to its...well..normal not that great but ok state
Last edited by Delilah; 09-10-2017 at 04:43 AM.
Critics do not have to mean negative and critical I might add. Just commeting is a type of critique in a sense.
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