Winston Churchill - ISFP - Dumas
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Winston Churchill - ISFP - Dumas
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SLE 3w2 so/sx
I like that he’s writing his mom for a continuous stream of favors from her social circle. I think his mom is estp.
(From his silk jumper, SLE already!) if you are beta Quadra you are supposed to have a long tailed silk shirt in your closet. Cuz...it feels great. You sleep...perfect.
I don’t trust the Russians about anything, so Zhukov is probably a freaking LSE. As in they mangled the IEE description by having Dostoevsky as the mascot representative. He’s IEI. As in, No Shared Functions! Duh.
Ok ... the Russians did good with ‘Hamlet’
Winston Churchill - ISFP Dumas
Last edited by khcs; 10-25-2020 at 07:26 PM.
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I would choose Dostoevsky as proxy/representative of IEI.Originally Posted by Ania
EII I would try for a living person because historical representatives are too blurry. Since I just saw Michelle Williams (on Heath ledger thread) she’s EII. On historical figures the last Russian czar (Nicholas II?) and czarina just by how they look are EII. It’s an art to choose an acceptable representative because there are immoral EII,lots of spies during the Cold War, that are too harsh to be accepted. I guess you have to find 100 and choose the one people will accept.
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...I can find representatives on Big Brother (reality tv)
Augusta typed him as ILE. He was very idealistic, not sensory, not practical. He was very reluctant to enter in the war and years later he said he regretted doing it. He actually had weak Se as he was cheering on his country and saying Britain wouldn’t be defeated but didn’t realize until years after WWII started that Britain lost its political clout and couldn’t win the war against Germany without the assistance of the US (which was very ESI at the time) and Russia (Beta ST). He realized with the war that even the British dominions were looking towards the US for protection, and that was when he realized, without the Commonwealth, Britain would have to play second fiddle to the US. That undermined his (unrealistic) dream of uniting British people together. A few years after the war ended, Churchill asked, “Do we imagine that we can be carried forward indefinitely upon the shoulders- broad though they may be- of the United States of America?”
Churchill imo was SEE
He was way more verbally original and varied than SLE tend to be, however, neither of his parents seemed to be ILE.
ILE-Ti can be quite good in the military.
He seemed more dynamic and had way more interests than an SLE would. He also seemed to have deeper psychological understanding of people and individuals than SLE would.
I had initially thought Winston Churchill's type was SLE-Ti since he was so into military stuff and empire (or seemed that way), but I know ILE-Ti can also be quite physically aggressive and he had more varied and deeper interests than SLE tend to. I guess if Aushra Augusta and Grigory Reinin typed him ILE, then he probably was. SLE don't tend to write large parts of the future like Winston Churchill did (although there was Theodore Roosevelt). Although I think Grigory Reinin's typing of Abraham Lincoln as ILE is quite wrong (LII, EII, LIE, and IEE all fit much better for Lincoln than ILE does, with IEE fitting best IMO, although his will and ability to meet his goal was pretty damn strong for an IEE; maybe he was an ILE-Ne and some LII and EII have pretty strong will and endurance), so maybe he made a mistake in typing WC as ILE too. Thing is, why didn't he type Thomas Jefferson as ILE? I know I've said it before, but I really think the common typing of Thomas Jefferson as LII is inaccurate and that he was an ILE-Ti. LII don't usually shape history and become leaders and polymaths and be so random like Jefferson was. Thomas Jefferson seemed to have way stronger Fe and higher IQ than an LII-Ti would, although he did seem kind of emotivist rather than constructivist and has been described as having a glacial exterior; and he loved and indulged in and spent on luxuries all the time and was quite physically active, LII generally don't and aren't.
The thinking that ILE-Ti are always self-centered is kind of wrong, they're more self-centered than average, but they can be quite emotional and sentimental and in need of emotional bonding.
Last edited by Disturbed; 06-01-2021 at 01:16 PM.
I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.
ILE
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
LOL
I can’t see him being anything other than a Beta or Gamma extrovert just off the top of my head, from what I know. Will have to go a bit deeper to narrow down. But maybe it was just his situation/job! I could be wrong! Shall see
The ILE typing sure is interesting
lol omg haha
I’m going to have to tell everyone
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