Socionics Beta types Examples

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Pelé - IEI

https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl.../Pel%C3%A9.jpg

I think he resembles Mbappé

https://e6.365dm.de/19/01/768x432/sk...20190115181408

[Rusal]

deleted because I'm nice.

[Rusal]

Pelé - IEI

https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl.../Pel%C3%A9.jpg

I know an really elderly ESI. She's everything an ESI is. No flights of paralyzing imagination. Something like a working bee (has always been), practical, cooks, sows, embroiders. The good sensor grandma. She lives by her senses and it's plain to see.

But she talks to her plants and flowers sweetly and looks at them dreamily as she holds them and waters her beloved garden, she beautifies her house with them (have you heard of something more ethical sensor...) but for some reason that she talks to her plants (imagines them to be 'alive') and looks dreamily at something I'm supposed to erase everything I know about her and make her Ni lead for...10 minutes at sunset in her life?

A multitude of bad typings lie ahead down that path.

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It's ethical behaviour to give inanimate objects life and personality. Speaking to plants, giving objects names, feeling an idealized connection to something like a car for example. As for the rest, dunno what I'm supposed to get out of that. Could be a sensor, could be intuitive, but probably the latter.

This person is EIE and has a whole garden behind her

https://youtu.be/b-is8BkNlhA

I think it's just normalizing behaviour

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At this point I'd earnestly recommend you just make a post on the forum about how you understand Ni then, and make adjustments to it as you go. I don't know if it's possible to make it so that only you yourself has the ability to post in a thread you create (ask the moderators maybe), but in that case it would prevent people from arguing with you in there. In that event, you can just refer to it whenever you think you're going to get into a dispute and just leave it at that (putting it into the signature would be useful, too).

I will probably publish a german article on my website to address my thoughts about intuition of time as I am aware of the fact that I have a gigantic IEI gallery while other types are barely represented. I am very well aware that most people probably don't know where I'm coming from and I would've obviously liked if my gallery was more balanced but as it seems to me it's just that specific types excel at strategic thinking and are therefore more likely to be at the top of any given field. most people here differ a lot in how they understand the theory so misunderstanding will always be present no matter how well you explain your thoughts. Generally, I have the conviction that some people are just a lot smarter than others and I would rather influence a few people that really care than a bunch of people who are kinda just interested. I couldn't care less if the average person types professional athletes as Si valuing or actors as sensing types for example. some people understand socionics, others do not. I don't think nifl is right all the time, but he definitely knows more than the average person here and seems fairly good at applying theoretical knowledge, especially given that he's only 23 years old.

[inaLim]

Ricky Williams IEI








met him irl randomly

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IEI, seems somewhat similar to Obama. Quite an important issue that will become more and more relevant over the next years

[Squirrel]

Peter Kozman : IEI

https://fb.watch/hEmjdPXOor/

[Rusal]

It's ethical behaviour to give inanimate objects life and personality. Speaking to plants, giving objects names, feeling an idealized connection to something like a car for example. As for the rest, dunno what I'm supposed to get out of that. Could be a sensor, could be intuitive, but probably the latter.

This person is EIE and has a whole garden behind her

https://youtu.be/b-is8BkNlhA

I think it's just normalizing behaviour

Of course an EIE can have a garden. I think it even helps my point: getting hung up on variations like these sometimes we don't get enough of a good view of a person's type.

The woman I refer to is an ESI through and through and I say this because she behaves like one and not because she has a garden. She had a difficult past, worked the land energetically and reserved a small plot for a garden. In a life of arduous work in many aspects, it became her respite of beauty. She looks at the flowers and sees also her dedication to implant some simple bucolic enchantment (Si demo) in her surroundings. Of course she is in love with her flowers and looks at them and treats them like you talk to babies and pets, with soft eyes and contentment and even some short playful scolding directed at the plant if it's not looking its best. She wants me to take pictures of her surrounded by her creations and looking up like a mischievous fairy or inhaling the smell of a rose with her eyes closed, caught in contemplation. She dedicates a good portion of her time to something she considers important to her personally so of course she wants to portray it in a special way.

Being a kindergarten teacher is tough work. You need to successfully entertain sometimes up to 20 small kids all the time and you need to have eyes everywhere. You slip to look the other way and disaster is milliseconds away. Literally and inexplicably. Basically, you need to be focused on your surroundings always and have a good handle of a crowd of little beasts. It's not going to be easy if you're an introvert intuitive, although of course there are exceptions. But sometimes little Peter will hit little Hans before you can stop him and as a teacher, you will worry about the fact that they might grow into violent children so you will go home and prepare a puppet show overnight to teach them about friendship and the gift of being considerate. You will put on the funny voices of your characters and their reactions and do your show the next day, but you need to be quick too because children will interject so you need to act out the improvised part of your arc. You won't do it because you're a Ni type and you're accessing the world of fantasy but because of other factors like alertness and quick-reaction and understanding of children. Not Ni types can do this more naturally and professionally than an IEI. IEIs I think as a type basically lack the innate pedagogy to deal with children. ‘Just let loose and don't be afraid to be a total goofball’ is the first piece of advice that gets passed around to whoever ventures into a kindergarten. By these very outward-focused, likely ethical women (peak qualities to get into teaching chaotic small kids or certainly valued at the moment).

Now what I wrote is clear to whoever interacts with the types: ESI can walk by their garden, the result of their invested time and effort to create something beautiful, looking at their flowers with an expression of devotion and as if they were something special, and non Ni types can use fantasy to prove a point. The latter, if anything, doesn't showcase IEI but rather shows ‘kindergarden teacher’ aptitudes. Using pictures like Pelé holding a football with his eyes closed or the fact that N. Drozdov pasted a the sound of a lion's roar to a footage of him with his mouth open as undeniable proof for IEI is not going to sound as definitive when you have ESIs being transported to ‘dreaminess’ by the sheer beauty of their roses and non-IEIs very naturally putting on silly voices day in, day out at education facilities. I'm with you on the basics, that is e.g. if a person spends their time mostly not paying attention to real-life necessities and prefers to contemplate their whole Game of Thrones type saga constantly running through their heads with them as the main character then sensing becomes less likely. But if ‘unequivocal proof’ of a Ni ego consists in generalities, generalizations built on the disparagement or suppression of what makes the other types then it will be met with some resistance IMO.

Sorry for the somewhat belated answer; the Holidays, etc.

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I think these two are IEI. they look very similar

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IEI imo. overall not a special video but I think she describes my reason for typing almost every youtuber as the same type fairly well @3:50

This job is the wild west. it is a completely new frontier. people are staking their claims to places and land that have never been occupied before and there is no one way of doing things.

this is the exact opposite of how sensing types operate, who orient themselves at tried-and-tested methods and don't plunge into unknown fields. you might think otherwise, but that's how sensing and intuition is defined from a theoretical standpoint. with constant access to any kind of media it's easy to forget that creating content like youtube videos requires quite a lot of creativity. it often doesn't appear that special because everything is judged from a global scale. it's like a singer/songwriter who doesn't seem special compared to millions of other artists, but would be unique in a local setting in a time without internet and telelvision everywhere.

[youfloweryourfeast]

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[Tallmo]

Eva Dahlgren IEI-H

Her music and lyrics also speak for IEI



when younger:

[Averroes]

Sharp - EIE Sx-first (?)

[youfloweryourfeast]

I think she is IEI, I orginally thought she was ESI but after watching more videos I changed my mind. I think a lot of her family also is beta her sister may be LIE, unsure if she is actually a gamma type. Her brother is SLE or possibly EIE as he seems to have not very good logic.
https://youtu.be/gJCN0Eov24c

https://youtu.be/Uu-uRWlLznM
She has that self deprecating humor that sometimes IEIs prefer, she also talks a lot about living in her head.

[nifl]

I think she is IEI, I orginally thought she was ESI but after watching more videos I changed my mind. I think a lot of her family also is beta or gamma.
https://youtu.be/gJCN0Eov24c

https://youtu.be/Uu-uRWlLznM
She has that self deprecating humor that I see in IEIs, she also talks a lot about living in her head.

maybe EIE

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I think she is IEI, I orginally thought she was ESI but after watching more videos I changed my mind. I think a lot of her family also is beta or gamma.
https://youtu.be/gJCN0Eov24c

https://youtu.be/Uu-uRWlLznM
She has that self deprecating humor that I see in IEIs, she also talks a lot about living in her head.

agreed

[timber]

Are you an airhead?

Then you are probably a IEI - Alivesionics

[Metamorph]

Are you an airhead?

Then you are probably a IEI - Alivesionics

Are you not an airhhead?

Liar, you're on the16types.info. - Alivesionics

[timber]

Are you not an airhhead?

Liar, you're on the16types.info. - Alivesionics

I'm seeing the pattern. Middle class Bimbo chicks are IEI, because they are "artsy" and "have aesthetic", they "live in their heads", and "make vlogs".

Its like watching at a child describe advanced quantum mechanics.

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I'm seeing the pattern. Middle class Bimbo chicks are IEI, because they are "artsy" and "have aesthetic", they "live in their heads", and "make vlogs".

Its like watching at a child describe advanced quantum mechanics.

And people who believe they are actually a wolf and not human are sensing types, not intuives. And people that cosplay as anime characters with big weapons are alpha types and totally not beta

You can't even recognize such basic patterns and then you talk about quantum mechanics.

[Metamorph]

And people who believe they are actually a wolf and not human are sensing types, not intuives. And people that cosplay as anime characters with big weapons are alpha types and totally not beta

And people who know they're humans are also intuitives because they claim to know about such abstract things as basic biology. And people who think cosplaying is dumb and embarrassing are also betas because only betas think anything is stupid. That's why all humans on the planet are typed as intuitive and beta by Alive.

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I find it funny that a simple post like "agreed" to youfloweryourfeast's post triggers long comments by Blue and Timber. They could just press ignore but especially the former has nothing going on in their life and has to reply to anything I write. Old habits die hard.

also reflect on the fact that youfloweryourfeast probably spend a longer time typing Kennedy Walsh, reflecting on a couple of other possibilities, and all timber had to say was "airhead" and "Middle class Bimbo chick" while thinking he is really unique and superior when he types that shit in front of his screen. none of these posts are in any way constructive or creative, and I kinda get why I don't get along with timber at all.

[timber]

It's ethical behaviour to give inanimate objects life and personality. Speaking to plants, giving objects names, feeling an idealized connection to something like a car for example. As for the rest, dunno what I'm supposed to get out of that. Could be a sensor, could be intuitive, but probably the latter.

This person is EIE and has a whole garden behind her

https://youtu.be/b-is8BkNlhA

I think it's just normalizing behaviour

*SLI arrives. "Hold my beer"

[timber]

And people who believe they are actually a wolf and not human are sensing types, not intuives. And people that cosplay as anime characters with big weapons are alpha types and totally not beta

You can't even recognize such basic patterns and then you talk about quantum mechanics.

Dude, the amount of irony that comes out of your posts is mind blowing. The lack of self awareness.....

That you can't even understand your own quadra is just..

[Rusal]

Cafehailee - LSI

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lHBIcSvwX5Y

Notice one of her T-shirts. Teaching LSI kids and teens you realize something: they're sticklers for rules and the good functioning of the system, they're more of an adult than the rest of their classmates in that sense. They need a running program for the smooth progress of ‘order’ in favor of the collective more than the rest of them. They get nervous when something trespasses it with selfish and ‘irrational’ individuality. So they're more prone to get nervous if that happens and admonish the trespassing more harshly. If the teacher tells them to go work with this other kid, they do it. Most know intuitively how to behave properly. If the teacher tells them to throw trash in the wastepaper basket, they do it. Why would they do otherwise and inflict harm on the collective effort of the class being inconsiderate of them and a clean environment? Consequently, someone who sees this piece of clothing instantly understands how the LSI arrived at the logic behind the statement. Shallow interpretation of the message that will give back an erroneous typing: caring about the earth is looking into the future and humanity therefore Ni type.

Another LSI - a mom that won't eat. Not ESI; logical.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fdOeZ-4rh1k

[Rusal]

The husband- LSI, very clearly, with expressions typical of the type.

(if you squint, you can see nifl trying to decided LSI vs LII/ILE vs SLI. Nope)

Wife is funny because at first she could pass LSE but that's not her type. I'm trying to decide what beta extrovert she resembles more.

[youfloweryourfeast]

yea maybe idk in vids she does talk fast saying a lot, how ever
she talks a lot abt her introversion and shyness, beta nf makes sense for her guess we can
agree on that.
she reminds me of kaya scodelario who I think is iei. iei can be good at creating a mask, Kennedy has been able to overcome somewhat her fears and develop confidence. ieis most prone to fields with actors, singers, artists ect and can make themselves known overcome fears. she also was able to create a successful career for herself with se suggestive.
another example of a iei is Harry styles though I don’t listen to his music he built himself up and created this whole fe cult like thing. If you watch videos of him when he was younger he was shy and didn’t have as much confidence in himself.
https://youtu.be/tfZfAnP28Hk

[youfloweryourfeast]

https://youtu.be/eHMlGNQOf6U , https://youtu.be/mkz5yHJQChQ also her with her EIE friend
EIE + IEI

[youfloweryourfeast]

I agree, IEIs can be successful specifically as actors and musicians. I also had an IEI guy teacher and he was very demanding, wanted every student to perform perfectly. He was very assertive and aware of his surroundings wanting everyone to follow his rules and we had to do group things everyday. IEIs seem to have more ability than me to get what they want and are better under pressure. I was far more in my head thinking of stuff and prone to prograsinating, wasting my time. I don’t necessarily think IEIs are prone to field like being lawyers but I suppose if they wanted to they could.

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I agree, IEIs can be successful specifically as actors and musicians. I also had an IEI guy teacher and he was very demanding, wanted every student to perform perfectly. He was very assertive and aware of his surroundings wanting everyone to follow his rules and we had to do group things everyday. IEIs seem to have more ability than me to get what they want and are better under pressure. I was far more in my head thinking of stuff and prone to prograsinating, wasting my time. I don’t necessarily think IEIs are prone to field like being lawyers but I suppose if they wanted to they could.

I think this person is an IEI and a lawyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cw6BnNugHc

but don't tell it to other people here.

[youfloweryourfeast]

aw thank you!!

[youfloweryourfeast]

Yeah I agree I bet there are more if I search enough

[Rusal]

Sergei Udaltsov - Beta - SLE > EIE (would a certain someone say delta st?)

Jonnytsunami808 - SLE

[Rusal]

Ben O'Toole - EIE

[Poptart]

Jalen Hurts, QB for Philadelphia Eagles - LSI

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I think she is an IEI-C. It's interesting because she seems like the female version of Corey Wayne, who is imo also IEI-C. Even reacted to him



I think both know what they are talking about and it matches my own perspective I guess. It might be an interesting layer to intertype relationships, as they are generally very theoretical and do not exactly tell you how to actually date someone.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Alive: IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI

Everybody else: Why do you type everybody as IEI?

also Alive: I don't type everybody as IEI. Where did you get that? You must not be very logical to come up with that conclusion. I'm not gaslighting you- because everybody knows the type that gaslights the most is IEI.

2 minutes later:

Alive: IEI IEI IEI IEI IEI...

and now, Alive has become an Idea of Himself can no longer be reasoned with or reached. He is now dancing on the clouds with Prince.

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another victim that obsesses over me. this time it's a moderator.

[Renna]

another victim that obsesses over me. this time it's a moderator.

I laughed so hard lolol