Beta music

[jughead]

What makes metheny IEI over say IEE or ILE?

[HERO]

The Dresden Dolls/Amanda Palmer:

[Park]

What makes metheny IEI over say IEE or ILE?

Good question. Well I think his music is more introspective, imaginative and up in the clouds then it is experimental, and my overall impression of him is that of an introvert, and probably Ti valuing (which is mostly an observation gathered from interviews). He does demonstrate a lot of Ne, especially in projects like the Orchestrion, but his projects always seem very personal and he seems to get his inspiration mainly from within himself. On the other hand though, I don't get any particular "Beta vibes" from him and think the way he's organized as a touring musician is pretty neat (Te?). ENFp is definitely a possibility.

[HERO]

Joy Division

[hardrunningrabbit]

I made a mix this morning.

Fork in the chest | candylandjoe | 8tracks

Listen/tell me what ya think.

Sound beta enough?

[Ezra]

STUNNING vid by the way, HIGHLY recommended:



BETA RUSH MUSIC





The latest Groove Armada album is fucking TOP NOTCH. Mix of new nu wave, rock, disco shit and sheer, sheer brilliance.

[Ezra]

Joy Division

One of my faves by them is Decades:

[hardrunningrabbit]

I'm always for anything that sounds like organ. Great way to close the record.

I feel like taking some space up, too. Which one of these is the "post a Youtube video" button?

This is about a bizarre acid trip.



This one's some bunch of russian turds.



I like this girl mainly for the size of her head.



Rowland died not long after this show. I wouldn't have been able to predict that one.

[Joy]

Anyone mention Dashboard Confessional or Alkaline Trio yet? Both have very Beta NF lyrics. Dashboard Confessional is the girl version of Alkaline Trio. Or, if you prefer, Alkaline Trio is a much more unhealthy version of Dashboard Confessional.

















Damn, I could post links forever. I'll stop now. Probably.

[Joy]

I don't care
who you've been kissing on these days
it's out of my hands
and in my mouth with such a pleasant taste
I need a beer to wash it all away without a trace
and then I'll drink 23 more to wipe this stupid smile off my fucking face

[sarinana]

no band can compete with them

[Nexus]

[discojoe]

AAAHGHGUDUHDG THIS SONG KICKS SO MUCH ASS I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO IT

[shorebreaker]

Here are some bands I hope everyone can be exposed to:!
Nujabes (beautiful hip hop, I hope you all check out his stuff)
Nomak
Flying Lotus
J Dilla
Soul Position
Immortal Technique
Little People
Air
Zero 7
William Orbit
Led Zep
Pat Metheny
Howard Shore
Mahler
Chopin

[HERO]

Courtney Love and Hole

[HERO]

Dashboard Confessional

[HERO]

Tori Amos

[ashlesha]

[Sam Rockwell]

Boris.

[HERO]

Fiona Apple

[Absurd]

[HERO]

Amy Winehouse

[strrrng]

nothing replaces classical soul

[HERO]

Ani DiFranco

[Lotus]

[strrrng]

mushroom > shpongle any day... they definitely seem Fe/Ti emphasized though.

[Gilly]

mushroom > shpongle any day... they definitely seem Fe/Ti emphasized though.

According to krae, shpongle is an IEI and SEI working together.

Juno Reactor>both of them though.

[strrrng]

nigga please, no one can touch mushroom on an instrumental or psychological level. juno is a step above shpongle, by sheer virtue of thematic prowess and consistency, since shpongle tends to spiral in overly-spiritual pointlessness; but that's about it.

[Lotus]

never heard of juno reactor, whats a good song? nick, you too, recommend a mushroom song...

[strrrng]

mushroom... too many to count. Project 100 is the anthem, Release Me, Dracul, Cities of the Future... I'll stop there lol

[Gilly]

nigga please, no one can touch mushroom on an instrumental or psychological level. juno is a step above shpongle, by sheer virtue of thematic prowess and consistency, since shpongle tends to spiral in overly-spiritual pointlessness; but that's about it.

Well shpongle is an almost purely aesthetic experience, whereas shroom and juno are more actually trance-inducing kind of music. To me, Juno's symmetry and solidity is just fucking keynote, even if it is more mainstream/generic than Infected, especially for shit like writing, because it just fucking puts you there; much more of a spiritual bent, especially on Labyrinth, which is probably the true showcase of their talent (a couple of the tracks got used in The Matrix movies; they did a few others for the series too that aren't on any of their main release).

Infected is more of an active listening experience, much heavier energy than either; admittedly they probably showcase the most creativity and raw musical talent, but IMO that's not what trance is really abut; they are too Rock-genre bent for my taste, compared to the purity of Juno.

This is a fucking epic track from Infected:




Hard to pick out Juno's best track; here are a couple of my favorites:






But if you want a real trance experience, in the true sense of the word, download Luciana.

[717495]

I liked this stuff krae showed me

[strrrng]

Well shpongle is an almost purely aesthetic experience, whereas shroom and juno are more actually trance-inducing kind of music. To me, Juno's symmetry and solidity is just fucking keynote, even if it is more mainstream/generic than Infected, especially for shit like writing, because it just fucking puts you there; much more of a spiritual bent, especially on Labyrinth, which is probably the true showcase of their talent (a couple of the tracks got used in The Matrix movies; they did a few others for the series too that aren't on any of their main release).

Juno has solidity, but their symmetry isn't diverse enough for me; that sporadic, discordant style of mushroom is just bliss...

probably some temperament thing

I do agree about the spiritual bent thing, though. mushroom isn't really thematic; they just kind of put shit together and it either makes sense or doesn't.

Infected is more of an active listening experience, much heavier energy than either; admittedly they probably showcase the most creativity and raw musical talent, but IMO that's not what trance is really abut; they are too Rock-genre bent for my taste, compared to the purity of Juno.

I don't see how they're more rock-bent than Juno, given that they use a wider range of instruments and effects, and can go from a hip-hop cadence to some dance-floor anthem in less than eight counts. Juno's tempos and meters just get kind of predictable for me.

[sarinana]

Mhm, IMO Shpongle is better than both Juno Reactor and IM.

Anyway here are some more betas.

[Gilly]

I do agree about the spiritual bent thing, though. mushroom isn't really thematic; they just kind of put shit together and it either makes sense or doesn't.

Yeah lol.

I don't see how they're more rock-bent than Juno, given that they use a wider range of instruments and effects, and can go from a hip-hop cadence to some dance-floor anthem in less than eight counts. Juno's tempos and meters just get kind of predictable for me.

Well just generally the feel of their music, has the more discordant, directly emotional appeal of rock music, whereas Juno's impact is more emergent and "trance like," despite the rather simplistic, direct approach they take from a purely musical standpoint. To me, they represent the closest thing to a proper synthesis between creative use of production instruments and elegant long-term cadence construction, although I do wish their was more variation in their sound selection. Somewhere between the two would be ideal, IMO.

[Gilly]

Oh God, nick, please find that Requiem beat we used to freestyle over and show these plebs what it really is

[discojoe]

Must be an NF thing.

[sarinana]

BTW Clint Mansell is ISTj and Single. strrrng, we should rip him off.

[strrrng]

Well just generally the feel of their music, has the more discordant, directly emotional appeal of rock music, whereas Juno's impact is more emergent and "trance like," despite the rather simplistic, direct approach they take from a purely musical standpoint. To me, they represent the closest thing to a proper synthesis between creative use of production instruments and elegant long-term cadence construction, although I do wish their was more variation in their sound selection. Somewhere between the two would be ideal, IMO.

yeah, it is much more about impacts -- throwing the listener off and forcing them to catch up; juno is definitely better suited for emotional absorption, for me.

Oh God, nick, please find that Requiem beat we used to freestyle over and show these plebs what it really is

if only there was a stage, some opiates and minorities (not racial...)...

BTW Clint Mansell is ISTj and Single. strrrng, we should rip him off.

we could be an effective duo

[Gilly]

YouTube - The Crystal Method feat. Matisyahu - Drown In The Now

More Alpha, IMO.