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    of course you can. at least you have some data to base your hypothesis on. it's interesting data because some stereotypes are against it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    of course you can. at least you have some data to base your hypothesis on. it's interesting data because some stereotypes are against it
    Well you perform an "experiment" by saying "We expect the result to be X, due to YZ reasons".

    If you make no prediction, then you have no hypothesis and that's not an experiment. It's just about gathering data and statistics.

    Now you might have no hypothesis, make no prediction and perform an experiment anyway, because you have no idea what the result will be. But the problem with that approach is you don't really know what exactly it is that you're looking for. So you might simply not understand what the result will mean, without having a theory that can explain the result.

    As for gathering more and more statistical data and making correlations, such as correlating feelings of Contempt with Type X. Well the problem is that without an explanatory theory we have no idea if it's correlation or causation. The correlation might be completely meaningless, just as it's relatively meaningless to correlate Whites with Contempt or Blacks with Contempt.

    Is this kind of data meaningful?

    Correlation with race and feelings of contempt:

    Whites: 8.7%
    Blacks: 7.1%
    Asians: 9.2%

    For people that think "race" is a fundamental characteristic in which the feelings of contempt are derived from, then yes. But for others, "race" is not such a fundamental characteristic, it's merely mainly differences in the color of the skin.

    Of course Socionists are going to think the "16 Types" are fundamental characteristics in which everything is derived from. But for others, it's not so convincing.

    It's not enough to say, "We observe 16 types, therefore we can make various correlations with them". Just as we can't say "We observe races, there are visual differences in the color of the skin, and we can make all sorts of correlations with races".

    Socionics is like saying, "Well look, the differences in the color of the skin is real. We can use color experts, we have people with really good eyesight, we can measure the wavelength of light using a spectroradiometer, etc.". But that's not the point.

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