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    i believe mbti directly corresponds to socionics so ISFJ is SEI
    you look kinda difficult to me tho SEI doesnt seem a bad guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    i believe mbti directly corresponds to socionics so ISFJ is SEI
    you look kinda difficult to me tho SEI doesnt seem a bad guess

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    Thanks! Yeah, most people can’t really seem to figure out whether I’m intuitive or sensing in either MBTI or Socionics. However, I’m pretty confident that I’m ISFJ in MBTI. Socionics is more complicated. Trying to wrap my head around it.

    But Fe ego is something everybody seems to agree on for me, so at least that’s pretty much confirmed. Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    Thanks! Yeah, most people can’t really seem to figure out whether I’m intuitive or sensing in either MBTI or Socionics. However, I’m pretty confident that I’m ISFJ in MBTI. Socionics is more complicated. Trying to wrap my head around it.

    But Fe ego is something everybody seems to agree on for me, so at least that’s pretty much confirmed. Thanks again!
    oops sorry, just saw this reply.. hmm idk anymore �� but still, I think that you do V.I more like an EII/INFP (but I still could be wrong)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    Socionics is more complicated. Trying to wrap my head around it.
    It's not more complicated. The "Socionics type" is the real Jungian type. The reason people find it difficult is that now you actually have to find your real type. When I first learned Socionics I ignored most of the theory. I could just clearly see that the ITR work and it was easy to get the types right from then on. It is a much needed correction of MBTI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    Thanks! Yeah, most people can’t really seem to figure out whether I’m intuitive or sensing in either MBTI or Socionics. However, I’m pretty confident that I’m ISFJ in MBTI. Socionics is more complicated. Trying to wrap my head around it.

    But Fe ego is something everybody seems to agree on for me, so at least that’s pretty much confirmed. Thanks again!
    SEI was the first feeling that came to mind
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    SEI was the first feeling that came to mind
    Yes, my difficulties in differentiating between Si and Ni have often led me to dilemmas between SEI and IEI. But whenever I focus on Ni matters, I tend to get headaches because I’m very bad with Ni (which happened to me last night after talking with my SLE friend about Ni).

    Thank you for your input, I’m settling on SEI once again! It’s the only type that consistently fits me, I’ve realized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    Yes, my difficulties in differentiating between Si and Ni have often led me to dilemmas between SEI and IEI. But whenever I focus on Ni matters, I tend to get headaches because I’m very bad with Ni (which happened to me last night after talking with my SLE friend about Ni).

    Thank you for your input, I’m settling on SEI once again! It’s the only type that consistently fits me, I’ve realized.
    For one thing you should never accept mbti descriptions to the functions as accurate because they are NOT
    Si-your own experience of sensory information like your own perception of what you like and dislike for instance your own taste in ice cream; which flavor suits you; how you view a tree, for instance. As an Si type the details of the tree that you see should be relatively your own view not the actual tree itself with all it's details but what you view it is. Stand outside and look at a tree now close your eyes and re imagine the tree; do you see all the details of the tree or what you perceive it to be?
    Ni-being attuned to events around them, will ask others about people's lives, what's going on with your sister etc; the unfolding story line and often has an intuitive sense of when it's necessary to act. So this perception is perception of events around them. like the IEI aunt who observes her teen niece getting emotionally caught up on bad internet relationships who wants to do an intervention for them. simply knows something without understanding how he arrived there because the've been attuned to the events around them. "IEI provides deep and meaningful insight into events and trends, particularly those that involve human synergy. At worst, the IEI can become lost in his own imagination, emotionally wounded, indecisive. The IEI's depth of imagination and emotion often goes unidentified by those around him, and this is perpetuated by the IEI's disinterest in broadcasting these traits."
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    For one thing you should never accept mbti descriptions to the functions as accurate because they are NOT
    Si-your own experience of sensory information like your own perception of what you like and dislike for instance your own taste in ice cream; which flavor suits you; how you view a tree, for instance. As an Si type the details of the tree that you see should be relatively your own view not the actual tree itself with all it's details but what you view it is. Stand outside and look at a tree now close your eyes and re imagine the tree; do you see all the details of the tree or what you perceive it to be?
    Ni-being attuned to events around them, will ask others about people's lives, what's going on with your sister etc; the unfolding story line and often has an intuitive sense of when it's necessary to act. So this perception is perception of events around them. like the IEI aunt who observes her teen niece getting emotionally caught up on bad internet relationships who wants to do an intervention for them. simply knows something without understanding how he arrived there because the've been attuned to the events around them. "IEI provides deep and meaningful insight into events and trends, particularly those that involve human synergy. At worst, the IEI can become lost in his own imagination, emotionally wounded, indecisive. The IEI's depth of imagination and emotion often goes unidentified by those around him, and this is perpetuated by the IEI's disinterest in broadcasting these traits."
    My memory tends to be very clear and precise, but my perception is probably more subjective than others’ perception. I tend to remember/absorb sensations in a way that make clear how I personally feel about them. My mind has a habit of putting color casts/filters over my mental reels of memories that gives each of my memories a clear flavor or atmosphere. I’m not sure if this is what you are referring to.

    I often want to be better at Ni, but sadly the description of Ni role fits me to a T:

    SEIs are capable of mentalizing and devling into imaginative inner worlds, pondering past, future, and recognizing patterns and trends. However, they tend not to emphasize these aspects especially, instead emphasizing physical, tangible, and relational aspects, and the simple pleasantries in life.

    SEIs may be very minimally inclined to think towards the future. They may resist thinking of long-term matters, seeing them as somewhat unnatural and secondary to the state of their immediate pleasure or experience. However, at times, they may recognize and become overly anxious about the importance of long-term planning, sometimes demonstrating a tendency to overthink or overplan situations, and to draw unrealistic assessments about their future.
    This was once a bone of contention between my Ni-valuing boyfriend and I. He’s constantly thinking of what we should do for the future, imagining our future together, and at the beginning he would try to get me to picture it so I can plan for it, but imagining the future is simply uninteresting to me and even stresses me out. He’s accepted the way I am now so he doesn’t press me to engage in Ni, but nonetheless I do feel a little guilty about being so weak in this area and having an inability to comfortably & aptly plan for the long-term future.

    I’m often with my head in the clouds, like the stereotypical IEI, but I’m often preoccupied with thoughts about myself, my place in the world, and overthinking the things I’ve done or thinking about what I could do better. Or maybe I’m just thinking about what I should cook for dinner LOL. Or about a beautiful song I’ve heard. Or I’m just fantasizing about my boyfriend, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuno View Post
    My memory tends to be very clear and precise, but my perception is probably more subjective than others’ perception. I tend to remember/absorb sensations in a way that make clear how I personally feel about them. My mind has a habit of putting color casts/filters over my mental reels of memories that gives each of my memories a clear flavor or atmosphere. I’m not sure if this is what you are referring to.

    I often want to be better at Ni, but sadly the description of Ni role fits me to a T:



    This was once a bone of contention between my Ni-valuing boyfriend and I. He’s constantly thinking of what we should do for the future, imagining our future together, and at the beginning he would try to get me to picture it so I can plan for it, but imagining the future is simply uninteresting to me and even stresses me out. He’s accepted the way I am now so he doesn’t press me to engage in Ni, but nonetheless I do feel a little guilty about being so weak in this area and having an inability to comfortably & aptly plan for the long-term future.

    I’m often with my head in the clouds, like the stereotypical IEI, but I’m often preoccupied with thoughts about myself, my place in the world, and overthinking the things I’ve done or thinking about what I could do better. Or maybe I’m just thinking about what I should cook for dinner LOL. Or about a beautiful song I’ve heard. Or I’m just fantasizing about my boyfriend, haha
    I have a lot of trouble with you associating to ISFJ in the mbti since mbti describes ISFJ as ESI - in the same light that ISFJ is harsh, systemic, thorough, their reaction is described in an Fi sense which is unpredictable (from making some sort of associations in their inner world), they are described by mbti as checking on the weather to preplan what they and their kids will wear the night before, as knowing how to apply force to push in know when and how to get their supervisors to get what they want; they can be quite sensitive where you come off more humorous and merry. Mbti describes them as quick, neat, orderly and the same behavior traits are translated to ESI
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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