Plus/Minus by Victor "El Diablo" Gulenko

[xerx]

Remember. These are +/- descriptions. They're not descriptions of the full functions, which are much, much more complex. They only describe how one Reinin dichotomy (process/result) alters the function -- one out of a possible fifteen. That's right! Just one stinking dichotomy. So don't complain that they're simplistic descriptions of your personality, because they're not meant to convey very much about you anyway.


ALPHA

-Fe = minimization or avoidance of negative emotions, prevention of quarrels, scandals, and other situations causing emotional instability, which is valued as more important than the creation of positive emotional effect.

-Ti = global structural logic. Systematic analysis is the instrument that they use in understanding the world. They are primarily interested in the universal laws which govern its workings. To that end, all traditions, conventions and restrictions are discarded. Everything is subjected to analysis, redefinition, and analogies. Their main pursuit is the creation of a comprehensive, breathtaking, and singular picture of the world. The idea of unity, reasonableness and fairness in all things permeates their vision completely.

+Si = positive feelings of comfort. They cannot effectively realize their potential if their lifestyle is full of hardships. Their style of activity is characterized by relaxation, freedom, and the availability of amenities. Relations with the external environment, where their activities unfold, must be friendly and pleasant. Their groups are always comfortable, relaxed as if at home, and never rough or eccentric.

+Ne = promising ideas. In this quadra, which can be attributed the element of 'air', there is frequent talk of the future, the unexplored and unknown possibilities. They may seem to be incorrigible dreamers. And this is so: they look out further than anyone, beyond the horizon, put forward "crazy" theories, and discuss them with pleasure. Some of these theories, however, are destined to lead long lives, so long that they will outlast their creators.


BETA

+Fe = maximization of positive emotions. Even small doses are enjoyed. Against the backdrop of the dramatic, turbulent emotions that always accompany this quadra, every small occurrence deserving a positive response is seen as an occasion for joy and uplifts their spirits.

+Ti = organizational logic. They have a developed sense of duty, citizenship, and loyalty to the elected project. It is therefore the most disciplined and organized quadra that knows how to quickly rally its forces in the event of imminent danger or emergency situations.

-Se = minimization of weaknesses, i.e. steadfastness in the struggle against deprivation and resistance against the enemy. In this quadra, the force of will is an indispensable condition for effective operation. Persistence, determination, endurance, and firmness are always the supreme authority.

-Ni = desire to bypass danger. They aim to avoid previously committed mistakes. In their groups, experience, skill, know-how, and sophistication are highly valued. They feel confident in extreme situations.


GAMMA

-Fi = minimization of negative relationships. This element is critical of evil. They desire to get away from bad people and poor relationships, and to protect themselves from enemies and adversaries. They want to minimize negative experiences, because as we know from psychoanalysis, all extruded problems are liable to generate an emotional reaction one way or another, with a physical cost for the purification of the subconscious.

-Te = business logic of risk and entrepreneurship. For them it is characteristic to reject that which is useless, insignificant, mundane. This aspect is valued as more important than accumulation and rational consumption. Gammas successfully operate in environments of economic scarcity, where in order to survive it is necessary to use something that may appear useless at first glance, but which is present in abundance.

+Se = durability and resistance. This quadra is well capable of defending itself and its position. For them power is not easy to acquire, as to do so they must resist the volitional Beta quadra. However, once it is seized, they can hold on to it despite all attempts at restoration. Protectiveness, the ability to defend themselves against all force, the ability to retain that which was acquired - these are the principles that they respect. From these values ​​naturally emerges the social mission of Gamma -- purification, which is to be understood in both the literal and the figurative sense of the word. They are restorers of distorted principles, doing everything the can to remove barriers and obstacles which limit rapid advancement. This quadra can be called the quadra of criticism and reform. In contrast to the 'fire' Beta quadra, which is oriented primarily politically, this quadra is oriented more socially.

+Ni = constraining their hot temper, these sociotypes prefer to advance gradually into the future, though they may sharply reject obsolete ideas, criticizing past mistakes. Advancing step by step, they generally believe in the linearity of development, i.e. according to their deep convictions, it is only necessary to remove obstacles, remnants of the past, and immediately this will open endless possibilities for growth. This quadra is not afraid of chaos and upheavals: they know how to conduct their work under conditions of change, risk and confusion.


DELTA

+Fi = positive, warm relationships. Psychological factors play a vital role for them. Without recognition of ethical values such as individuality and the uniqueness of others, religion and spirituality, non-interference in others lives, concrete humanism, etc., the stability they strongly desire is hardly possible.

+Te = logic of use and rational management of resources. This is the most cost-conscious quadra, that consumes rationally and prefers high-quality, long-lasting products. Risk, rushed jobs, economic chaos and manipulation are not characteristic of this quadra. The society of quality consumption should be stable.

-Si = minimization of discomfort. They value good working conditions and are reluctant to change their routines. This element excludes harmful influences from external environment. This quadra cannot work in a rush. They highly value convenience, comfort at their workplace, and good coordination at work.

-Ne = the unusual, alternative and bizarre. Despite its groundedness, this quadra respects unusual and talented people who offer creative alternative possibilities. The spread of new information is not impeded, no matter how avant-garde it may be. In Delta groups, there occur periodic flashes of sensationalism and spikes of interest centered around original people who put forward alternative ideas of development.

The full article goes into a bit more detail about each of the quadras.


Link: http://socioniko.net/ru/articles/quadra-soc-psy.html

[krieger]

Great find.

The +/- values of contrary functions (e.g. Te in alpha, Ni in delta, etc.) that are sometimes mentioned are missing from this account. Arguably, these are the most interesting part of +/- theory, because it is the only part of the theory that is not redudant. The way things are defined in this account, there is no real need or reason to distinguish "Ti+" from "Beta ST", for example.

[xerx]

Great find.

The +/- values of contrary functions (e.g. Te in alpha, Ni in delta, etc.) that are sometimes mentioned are missing from this account. Arguably, these are the most interesting part of +/- theory, because it is the only part of the theory that is not redudant. The way things are defined in this account, there is no real need or reason to distinguish "Ti+" from "Beta ST", for example.

From the OP, I'm sure I personally value -Ni. Not so much +Ni.

[mu4]

From the OP, I'm sure I personally value -Ni. Not so much +Ni.

+Ni = constraining any [[hot temper]], they prefer to advance gradually into the future, though sharply rejecting obsolete ideas and criticizing past mistakes. Advancing step by step, they generally believe in the linearity of development, i.e. according to their ideas. It is only necessary to remove hindering obstacles - past remnants - and endless possibilities will immediately be opened. This quadra is not afraid of chaos and upheavals: they know how to do business under conditions of risk, confusion and spontaneity.

-Ni = minimization/avoidance of danger. Try to avoid previously committed mistakes. They value experience, skill and sophistication in their midst. Feelings of confidence in extreme situations.

To me it looks as if these descriptions aren't really that differentiated.

[xerx]

To me it looks as if these descriptions aren't really that differentiated.

yes but ...

+Ni = constraining any [[hot temper]], they prefer to advance gradually into the future, though sharply rejecting obsolete ideas and criticizing past mistakes. Advancing step by step, they generally believe in the linearity of development, i.e. according to their ideas. It is only necessary to remove hindering obstacles - past remnants - and endless possibilities will immediately be opened. This quadra is not afraid of chaos and upheavals: they know how to do business under conditions of risk, confusion and spontaneity.

I prefer breakthroughs rather than linear refinement.

[mu4]

yes but ...

I prefer breakthroughs rather than linear refinement.

Linear refinement leads to accidental breakthroughs. I think it's more a myth that Alpha quadra is more into breakthroughs, rather to me Alpha are open-minded combiners and innovators that integrate universals.

See -Ti.

-Ti = global structural logic. They are primarily interested in the universal laws that govern the world. To that end, traditions, conventions and all restrictions are discarded. Everything is exposed to comparison, analysis and redefinition (/analogy?). Their main purpose is the creation of a comprehensive, breathtaking, compact and singular picture of the world. The idea of integrity, reasonableness and the fairness of all things permeates their vision completely.

Structural redefinition is also a breakthrough.

[tcaudilllg]

Great find.

The +/- values of contrary functions (e.g. Te in alpha, Ni in delta, etc.) that are sometimes mentioned are missing from this account. Arguably, these are the most interesting part of +/- theory, because it is the only part of the theory that is not redudant. The way things are defined in this account, there is no real need or reason to distinguish \"Ti+\" from \"Beta ST\", for example.

Indeed. Would be great if we had Boukalov\'s type papers, because I\'m sure his are superior. He apparently has so much confidence in them that he doesn\'t release them online. You have to subscribe to the journal to get them.

labcoat, you don\'t think you could manage to get a subscription to the Ukrainian Register from where you are, do you?

[xerx]

Indeed. Would be great if we had Boukalov\'s type papers, because I\'m sure his are superior. He apparently has so much confidence in them that he doesn\'t release them online. You have to subscribe to the journal to get them.

labcoat, you don\'t think you could manage to get a subscription to the Ukrainian Register from where you are, do you?

Wouldn't that mean he doesn't have confidence in them?

[krieger]

Indeed. Would be great if we had Boukalov\'s type papers, because I\'m sure his are superior. He apparently has so much confidence in them that he doesn\'t release them online. You have to subscribe to the journal to get them.

labcoat, you don\'t think you could manage to get a subscription to the Ukrainian Register from where you are, do you?

I get the impression from the way you generally behave that the description of -Fe in this thread ("Avoidance of quarrels, scandals and emotional instability.") doesn't apply well to you. Is this correct? Actually, don't even answer the question. You've proven that it doesn't plenty of times on this forum.

I don't know very well how to find out about the subscription. Or what the great incentive is for me to make the effort, for that matter. Expect me to lose interest if the search involves paging through any machine translated east Europian articles.

[mu4]

Wouldn't that mean he doesn't have confidence in them?

If Boukalov is ILE then he has no confidence in them or wants to avoid conflict.

[crazedrat]

good descriptions.. very clear.
-Fe = minimization/avoidance of negative emotions. Avoidance of quarrels, scandals and emotional instability. This is acknowledged as more important than the release of positive emotions.
This element has been a nightmare to live with. always in denial

[Park]

^ I think this passage is particularly relevant to Smilex's type.

In which way?

[Park]

edit: nevermind...

[The Exception]

good descriptions.. very clear.
-Fe = minimization/avoidance of negative emotions. Avoidance of quarrels, scandals and emotional instability. This is acknowledged as more important than the release of positive emotions.
This element has been a nightmare to live with. always in denial

As someone who strongly prefers -Fe, I cannot say I'm denial. I recognize negative emotions both in myself and others. Sometimes they are necessary. I just prefer to minimize it if possible.

[Singu]

I value -Ti, +-Ne, +Fi even though I'm not in either of those quadras.

[tcaudilllg]

Laws are only half the picture. Categories are another.

[tcaudilllg]

Regarding alpha Ti: laws are only half the picture; categories are another. One uses categorizes to sort objects according to the laws they obey.

[Tigerfadder]

Here is an update from this article which was original made in the 1991. IEI in beta got Ni+.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1tD...K9kNkQ&index=1

[The Reality Denialist]

This is diffrent what Gulenko uses in Model g related stuff.

ILE and SEI would be -Fe- and ESE and LII -Fe+. Left and right makes difference here.

-Fe- means avoiding direct quarrels but regardless plays with drama elements.

[lavos]

Remember. These are +/- descriptions. They're not descriptions of the full functions, which are much, much more complex. They only describe how one Reinin dichotomy (process/result) alters the function -- one out of a possible fifteen. That's right! Just one stinking dichotomy. So don't complain that they're simplistic descriptions of your personality, because they're not meant to convey very much about you anyway.


ALPHA

-Fe = minimization or avoidance of negative emotions, prevention of quarrels, scandals, and other situations causing emotional instability, which is valued as more important than the creation of positive emotional effect.

-Ti = global structural logic. Systematic analysis is the instrument that they use in understanding the world. They are primarily interested in the universal laws which govern its workings. To that end, all traditions, conventions and restrictions are discarded. Everything is subjected to analysis, redefinition, and analogies. Their main pursuit is the creation of a comprehensive, breathtaking, and singular picture of the world. The idea of unity, reasonableness and fairness in all things permeates their vision completely.

+Si = positive feelings of comfort. They cannot effectively realize their potential if their lifestyle is full of hardships. Their style of activity is characterized by relaxation, freedom, and the availability of amenities. Relations with the external environment, where their activities unfold, must be friendly and pleasant. Their groups are always comfortable, relaxed as if at home, and never rough or eccentric.

+Ne = promising ideas. In this quadra, which can be attributed the element of 'air', there is frequent talk of the future, the unexplored and unknown possibilities. They may seem to be incorrigible dreamers. And this is so: they look out further than anyone, beyond the horizon, put forward "crazy" theories, and discuss them with pleasure. Some of these theories, however, are destined to lead long lives, so long that they will outlast their creators.


BETA

+Fe = maximization of positive emotions. Even small doses are enjoyed. Against the backdrop of the dramatic, turbulent emotions that always accompany this quadra, every small occurrence deserving a positive response is seen as an occasion for joy and uplifts their spirits.

+Ti = organizational logic. They have a developed sense of duty, citizenship, and loyalty to the elected project. It is therefore the most disciplined and organized quadra that knows how to quickly rally its forces in the event of imminent danger or emergency situations.

-Se = minimization of weaknesses, i.e. steadfastness in the struggle against deprivation and resistance against the enemy. In this quadra, the force of will is an indispensable condition for effective operation. Persistence, determination, endurance, and firmness are always the supreme authority.

-Ni = desire to bypass danger. They aim to avoid previously committed mistakes. In their groups, experience, skill, know-how, and sophistication are highly valued. They feel confident in extreme situations.


GAMMA

-Fi = minimization of negative relationships. This element is critical of evil. They desire to get away from bad people and poor relationships, and to protect themselves from enemies and adversaries. They want to minimize negative experiences, because as we know from psychoanalysis, all extruded problems are liable to generate an emotional reaction one way or another, with a physical cost for the purification of the subconscious.

-Te = business logic of risk and entrepreneurship. For them it is characteristic to reject that which is useless, insignificant, mundane. This aspect is valued as more important than accumulation and rational consumption. Gammas successfully operate in environments of economic scarcity, where in order to survive it is necessary to use something that may appear useless at first glance, but which is present in abundance.

+Se = durability and resistance. This quadra is well capable of defending itself and its position. For them power is not easy to acquire, as to do so they must resist the volitional Beta quadra. However, once it is seized, they can hold on to it despite all attempts at restoration. Protectiveness, the ability to defend themselves against all force, the ability to retain that which was acquired - these are the principles that they respect. From these values ​​naturally emerges the social mission of Gamma -- purification, which is to be understood in both the literal and the figurative sense of the word. They are restorers of distorted principles, doing everything the can to remove barriers and obstacles which limit rapid advancement. This quadra can be called the quadra of criticism and reform. In contrast to the 'fire' Beta quadra, which is oriented primarily politically, this quadra is oriented more socially.

+Ni = constraining their hot temper, these sociotypes prefer to advance gradually into the future, though they may sharply reject obsolete ideas, criticizing past mistakes. Advancing step by step, they generally believe in the linearity of development, i.e. according to their deep convictions, it is only necessary to remove obstacles, remnants of the past, and immediately this will open endless possibilities for growth. This quadra is not afraid of chaos and upheavals: they know how to conduct their work under conditions of change, risk and confusion.


DELTA

+Fi = positive, warm relationships. Psychological factors play a vital role for them. Without recognition of ethical values such as individuality and the uniqueness of others, religion and spirituality, non-interference in others lives, concrete humanism, etc., the stability they strongly desire is hardly possible.

+Te = logic of use and rational management of resources. This is the most cost-conscious quadra, that consumes rationally and prefers high-quality, long-lasting products. Risk, rushed jobs, economic chaos and manipulation are not characteristic of this quadra. The society of quality consumption should be stable.

-Si = minimization of discomfort. They value good working conditions and are reluctant to change their routines. This element excludes harmful influences from external environment. This quadra cannot work in a rush. They highly value convenience, comfort at their workplace, and good coordination at work.

-Ne = the unusual, alternative and bizarre. Despite its groundedness, this quadra respects unusual and talented people who offer creative alternative possibilities. The spread of new information is not impeded, no matter how avant-garde it may be. In Delta groups, there occur periodic flashes of sensationalism and spikes of interest centered around original people who put forward alternative ideas of development.

The full article goes into a bit more detail about each of the quadras.


Link: http://socioniko.net/ru/articles/quadra-soc-psy.html

These definitions are surprisingly good. Too bad he later modified them and made them much more sucky. However, some are a bit off, like -Fe. There's a reason ESE is called "the enthusiast".

[Ave]

I personally prefer these original descriptions to model G.

[Bertrand]

reinin (who offered the original signs) and gulenko don't really disagree about what it indicates, they just disagree about how it should be labeled in order to best fit in with everything else

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credit to northernrose for the pic