Ip temperament types - a pain in the ass??

[ladyinred]

I'm pretty lazy, but the depths of the laziness of some of my IP friends (One IEI and his SEI cousin in particular) sometimes astound me.

i think i know what you mean

Maybe you're right in a way but if you move your body more you are bound to have more energy regardless. Maybe you're just doing it wrong or maybe you have physical problems that prevent you from exercizing, Idk - but honestly it has that same energizing effect on anybody. The thing is we will still be kinda undirected with it the way ips are. If you exercise, your body will naturally want to be energetic because it's a non-ego thing really and has nothing to do with the mind. The more you do the more you want to do. The more you do nothing , the more you want to just do nothing. It builds on itself. You know why people suck at math? Because it's a *drill* and not many people like repetition and drills.

The thing is ej is already planning a business scheme or something whereas the ip is just sort of being energetic with nowhere to go. That's possible. Just because you're motivated and energetic and alive doesn't mean anything is going to happen of course, it's just a feeling. And ejs make money and outward success out of the ass while being just as lazy as ips, their mind is just different and they have a different egoic perspective. They're not actually being 'hard workers' or putting more effort than you.

So everybody feels energetic with physical activity, but IPs usually just end up being satisfied that they feel more 'alive' in the artistic sense, and might then do something personally meaningful or just do something they always wanted to do but held themselves back on. Then, they will have the insight with it and carry with it for a long time. With ej its more like "God who gives a shit, I want to look at my bank account." Something that I know would NOT bring me happiness and something that I'd care two shits about -- otherwise I'd just do it like they do. ((of course I like having stuff but only when my cute boyfriend buys me it. <3))

well said!

Aiss, this is wrong. Ugh. When Ashton is annoying me, I feel powerful and self confident enough to leave the room. I just leave if asston is bugging me he doesn't 'cripple me in place with his manly ej powers.' They can't get away with it because I will just remove myself from the situation. Of course Ashton hurt my feelings before, he has done that with everybody. He's Asston (copyright crazedrat) what do you expect? (God I love my infp butt buddies krae and crazed rat my infp homeboys i love u so much) And Nick when he's not being an ass.

Do you really think that I will just sit there and let somebody abuse me ? Just because I'm passive and shy and I have a big heart? Well fuck you for making that assumption. And fuck all women for thinking that I'm weaker because I don't want to abuse you like straight male asston. And fuck everybody in the world that thinks I'm weaker just because I don't light stray cats on fire like ghetto sociopathic straight boys.

*claps*

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are XSEs more typically go,go,go than XIEs?? seems to me XSEs focus on DOINGDOINGDOING in the present, at the same time XIEs focus on DOINGBECOMINGDOING with focus on future.

[Aleksei]

I think it's the other way around to an extent actually, because XSEs are Judicious and XIEs are Decisive. Judicious people think things through more thoroughly before doing them. This one ESE friend of mine hates making decisions of any kind (though she can get pretty impulsive and careless as well).

[scissors]

With ej its more like "God who gives a shit, I want to look at my bank account."

Ehm...no.
It's not the money - its having someting that can be measured.
Ej want personal satisfaction as much as everybody else but just satisfying yourself without any real life "evidence" (for lack of a better word) seems pointless.

It does not have to be money but it must be measurable, results, numbers, real life tangibles, graphs, awards, something real. And by real I mean something that can be perceived by the world as real - not just by me.
That is what gives us satisfaction - real life tangible results.

So - in an artistic sense an EJ artist is never satisfied creating only to please themselves. It must be of some value to the outer world and yield some tangible results.

[Saoshyant]

I've haven't done shit all day today!

[Sir Knight]

Ehm...no.
It's not the money - its having someting that can be measured.
Ej want personal satisfaction as much as everybody else but just satisfying yourself without any real life "evidence" (for lack of a better word) seems pointless.

It does not have to be money but it must be measurable, results, numbers, real life tangibles, graphs, awards, something real. And by real I mean something that can be perceived by the world as real - not just by me.
That is what gives us satisfaction - real life tangible results.

So - in an artistic sense an EJ artist is never satisfied creating only to please themselves. It must be of some value to the outer world and yield some tangible results.

Well I think that just about everyone wants to have tangible, real results of their work to point to. I also think that everyone wants to have their work appreciated by others. I certainly don't want to invest a lot of time in writing a story or composing a music piece only leave it sitting idle on my hard drive and taking up space. That'd just be creativity in a vacuum, not real art.

Also I can definitely grasp labcoat's criticism of Ip types. Because what really wanted to write was, "Look at the opposite of your statements, apply them to Ip types, and tell me if they hold any water," but chose to write it this way to come off as not-so-harsh; to make myself sound more... I don't know, "Fair and Balanced," I guess.