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    Thomas Middleditch (left) - ESI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_wxaVezI4
    middleditch tries to access some Ne? TJ so Se ?
    he accesses it all too intensively for a Ne=-poLR. middleditch - EII? LII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    he accesses it all too intensively for a Ne=-poLR. middleditch - EII? LII?
    Not sure if you're just judging from this video? I put down ESI from watching his show and a few other interviews as well. EIIs and LIIs always struck me as using their Ne in a more leisurely way. Those that have it in their ego seem to be able to direct their Ne over time, dependent on their ongoing interests. Whereas Middleditch seems to kind of just throw it at whatever and will use references to things that have already been gone over in some form. Whether that be direct references to his past work that he's already very familiar with, closely repeating other comedians' input, pulling from themes that are already present, or otherwise. So... yeauh. My two cents for a tv comedian.

    For an EII improvising with Ne in a comedy setting, this one came to mind : PP
    Relevant part goes from 0:17 to 1:29.


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    Joe Kennedy Sr...LIE 8w7 so/sp

    Joe Kennedy Sr comes into 8w7 through Rasputin:







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    Kennedy used his wealth and connections to build a national network of supporters that became the base for his sons' political careers. He especially concentrated on the Irish American community in large cities, particularly Boston, New York, Chicago, Pittsburgh and several New Jersey cities.[49] Kennedy also used Arthur Krock of The New York Times, America's most influential political columnist, for decades as a paid speechwriter and political advisor.

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    Kennedy made a large fortune as a stock market and commodity investor and also by investing in real estate and a wide range of industries. He never built a significant business from scratch, but his timing as both buyer and seller was usually excellent. Sometimes he made use of inside information in ways which were legal at the time but were later outlawed.

    In 1919, Kennedy joined the prominent stock brokerage firm of Hayden, Stone & Co. where he became an expert in dealing in the unregulated stock market of the day, engaging in tactics that were later labeled insider trading and market manipulation. He happened to be on the corner of Wall and Broad Streets at the moment of the Wall Street bombing on September 16, 1920, and was thrown to the ground by the force of the blast.[20] In 1923, he left Hayden and set up his own investment company. Kennedy subsequently became a multi-millionaire during the bull market of the 1920s, and even more wealthy as a result of taking "short" positions in 1929.

    Kennedy survived the crash "because he possessed a passion for facts, a complete lack of sentiment and a marvelous sense of timing"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.

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    By Jerry Wilt on November 3, 2004

    Kessler certainly dispels that these stories are myths. He tells us what a manipulative, conniving, scheming, deceitful man that Kennedy really was.

    We are treated to the stories of Kennedy's manipulation of the stock market for his own personal gain; his illegal importation of scotch to pad his growing millions; his manipulation and theft of Gloria Swanson's monies. It doesn't stop there. Kessler tells about how Joe wanted to avert war since he was afraid he would lose millions of dollars.

    Kessler tells us how much Joe manipulated and controlled his children]so that they would conform to his standards; and how their political life was formed in order for Joe to pursue his own dreams via his children's lives.

    After reading of Joe's death, one has to wonder whether Joe's cruel and deceitful life was worth it in the end - two assassinated children; Rosemary's lobotomy; a family myth built on lies.
    By Margaret A-C Lawrence on December 13, 2009

    It isn't just Kennedy's bottomless greed that astounds, but his staggering need for power and more power - over everyone including, of course, his sons who did what they were told.
    By Edward S. Brown on January 3, 2010

    This book was a real eye-opener. Old Joe Kennedy cared about one thing: his pocketbook and how fat he could get it. And power, of course, but money is power, right? A more ruthless, cut-throat man has never lived. He used people and discarded them without blinking an eye.
    By Edward S. Brown on January 3, 2010

    Kessler's,"The Sins of the Father," is a page turner, not merely for the colorful and bombastic life of Joseph P. Kennedy. But, a gut check for those fraught with extreme ambition and a thirst for power. Joseph Kennedy answered the age old question, "How far would you go to achieve ultimate power?" His life's response was, "To the ends of the earth." That he did and more.
    ByIvanon September 10, 2011

    I have read a lot books about Joe the last few years. This is by far the best, in that it provided a lot details not mentioned in other books.

    He created artificial shortages in his alcohol business, to create more profits. He took advantage of his position as a Ambassador to England to procure shipping space on the Trans-Atlantic ships to ship his alcohol and reap war time profits. Procuring shipping space was difficult at the time as the war in Europe was heating up. He made huge money in the stock market manipulating stocks. During the war, when air transportation was tight, he frequently bumped soldiers traveling on orders; and he if he did not get his way he called the White House and got them to make it happen. When prohibition started he made huge money in illegal booze. When the stock market crashed he just happened to be in cash. He used the movie business to make money no doubt, but it was also a conveniant ploy to meet starlets most likely. When the depression hit he was buying real estate, the place in Florida, and the big place at Cape Cod, all at bargain prices. At the end of the war, he started buying commercial real estate, like that mall area in Chicago, at bargain prices, which only recently the family sold. He guessed right that business and real estate would recover after the war.
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Sins-Fathe.../dp/0446518840
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    Lambert Wilson looks as T

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    Bucky the cat from Get Fuzzy comic stip has been drawn from an ILI-Te 5w6 so/sp character. Their owner, Rob, sounds like ESI-Fi, and Satchel is probs IEE-Ne 9.







    Irrational intuitives in convo lul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Lambert Wilson looks as T
    Actually yeah. After watching another clip I could see LSE for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Bucky the cat from Get Fuzzy comic stip has been drawn from an ILI-Te 5w6 so/sp character. Their owner, Rob, sounds like ESI-Fi, and Satchel is probs IEE-Ne 9.







    Irrational intuitives in convo lul
    Now alternately I could envision this trio as being ENTp, Rob as ISFp, and Satchel as IEE.

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    Jared Haibon - ESI so/sx - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onpD84jWTE





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    Tarzan (с 11:50) - ESFP
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    Zyzz...SEE 3w2 sx/so



    Shizzio...SEE 7w8 so/sx


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    My current favorite SEE is Justin Lukach from the traveldoc series Departures. It looks like most of the third season is available on Youtube. The first two are on Netflix. He and Scott Wilson (IEE) travel the world together, and it's honestly the best travel "show" I've ever seen. Justin is so entertaining, hilarious and heart-warming.
    someday the grapes will be wine
    and someday you will be mine


    EII-Ne 2w3 - 9w1 - 7w8 so/sx

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    Jennifer Carpenter ESI

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    Gamma SF>IEE



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    Fi-ESI


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    Nomada Sin Rumbo - INFP(?)

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    Evgemiya Li - ISFJ

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    Sigourney weaver isfj
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Sigourney weaver isfj
    :facepalm: ENTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    :facepalm: ENTJ
    Idk you might want to take a closer look
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    ILI-Ni



    Mmmmm them defensive skillzzzz
    someday the grapes will be wine
    and someday you will be mine


    EII-Ne 2w3 - 9w1 - 7w8 so/sx

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    Camille Paglia - ILI-Te so/sx - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia

     

    Some feminist critics have characterized Paglia as an "anti-feminist feminist," critical of central features of much contemporary feminism but holding out "her own special variety of feminist affirmation."[36] Elaine Showalter notes Paglia's admiration for Simone de Beauvoir and The Second Sex ("the supreme work of modern feminism... its deep learning and massive argument are unsurpassed") as well as Germaine Greer,[17] but Time magazine critic Martha Duffy wrote that Paglia "does not hesitate to hurl brazen insults" at several feminists including Greer, whom Paglia accused of becoming "a drone in three years" as a result of her early success; Paglia also called activist Diana Fuss' output "just junk – appalling!"[8] Showalter calls Paglia "unique in the hyperbole and virulence of her hostility to virtually all the prominent feminist activists, public figures, writers and scholars of her generation", mentioning Carolyn Heilbrun, Judith Butler, Carol Gilligan, Marilyn French, Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood, Susan Thomases, and Hillary Clinton as targets of her criticism.[17]

    Paglia has accused Kate Millett of starting "the repressive, Stalinist style in feminist criticism."[37] Paglia has repeatedly criticized Patricia Ireland, former president of the National Organization for Women, calling her a "sanctimonious", unappealing role model for women[38] whose "smug, arrogant" attitude is accompanied by "painfully limited processes of thought".[39] Paglia contends that under Ireland's leadership, NOW "damaged and marginalized the women's movement".[40] Paglia has called feminist philosopher Martha Nussbaum a "PC diva", and accused her of borrowing her ideas without acknowledgement. She further contends that Nussbaum's "preparation or instinct for sex analysis is dubious at best".[41]

    Many feminists have criticized Paglia; Christina Hoff Sommers calls her "Perhaps the most conspicuous target of feminist opprobrium," noting that the Women's Review of Books described Sexual Personae as a work of "crackpot extremism," "an apologia for a new post-Cold War fascism," and patriarchy's "counter-assault on feminism." Sommers relates that when Paglia appeared at a Brown University forum, feminists signed a petition censuring her and demanding an investigation into procedures for inviting speakers to the campus.[42]

    Naomi Wolf traded a series of sometimes personal attacks with Paglia throughout the early 1990s. In The New Republic, Wolf labeled Paglia "the nipple-pierced person's Phyllis Schlafly who poses as a sexual renegade but is in fact the most dutiful of patriarchal daughters" and characterized Paglia's writing as "full of howling intellectual dishonesty".[43][44][45][46] In 1991, Paglia referred to Wolf as a "twit".[47]

    Gloria Steinem said of Paglia that, "Her calling herself a feminist is sort of like a Nazi saying they're not anti-Semitic."[48] Paglia said that Steinem, whom she accused of not having read her, had compared her to ****** and Sexual Personae to Mein Kampf.[49] Paglia called Steinem "the Stalin of feminism."[50]

    Katha Pollitt has characterized Paglia as one of a "seemingly endless parade of social critics [who] have achieved celebrity by portraying not sexism but feminism as the problem." Pollitt writes that Paglia has glorified "male dominance," and has been able to get away with calling the Spur Posse California high school date-rape gang "beautiful," among other things "that might make even Rush Limbaugh blanch," because she is a woman.[51]

    Paglia's view that rape is sexually motivated has been endorsed by evolutionary psychologists Randy Thornhill and Craig T. Palmer; they comment that "Paglia... urges women to be skeptical toward the feminist 'party line' on the subject, to become better informed about risk factors, and to use the information to lower their risk of rape."





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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    would you say ESI men get the "nice guy syndrome" more than men of other types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Usually I don't like to make such comments.. But... That teeth tho....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    would you say ESI men get the "nice guy syndrome" more than men of other types?
    Not really.

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    SquattinCassanova - Se-ESI (?)


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    Jasmin Ouschan...ESI 3w4 sx/so




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    Laughing Witch - Se-SEE


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    I don't personally endorse PUA @suedehead but the videos are interesting regardless. Gonna have to agree with ESI type for that one dude, definitely in the Ego block and is expressing a very Gamma attitude towards the whole thing. Yeah, sometimes it works, most the time it don't, but the information is there regardless. Yes, you can train yourself to be "Lothario Cad" as it were and some people want that lifestyle. I don't but hey, some people do and if they're going for it good for them.

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    Jasmin Ouschan - N

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    Kirk Douglas...LIE 8w7 sx/so




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    Kirk Douglas - ISTP

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    Aristotle Onassis (LIE 8w7 sp/so)



    Anthony Quinn (LIE 8w9 sp/sx)



    Nicholas Von Hoogstraten (LIE 7w8 sp/sx)



    Kirk Douglas (LIE 8w7 sx/so)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Aristotle Onassis (LIE 8w7 sp/so)

    https://www.google.lt/search?q=Laure...1-2AzB&dpr=0.9
    same stacking?

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    Ryazan - ISFJ

    Anthony Quinn - ESFP

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    if not an actress, Mimi Al Lahan could be ENTj

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    Mimi Al Lahan - ESFJ

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    He may have been posted before but I think David Mitchell is a clear ILI with a heavy Te subtype.




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    Sandu Ciorba - ESFP

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