Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
I think many people don't realize that it's not like we are trying to actually explain something, but more of describing it, describing what we see. We know that description A (ear) has some connection to description B (tail) and also something to do with description C (trunk). We can see it, we can taste it, but we can't state it....at the moment, we aren't sure that it's an elephant we are seeing...especially if one has never even seen an elephant. I mean, how do you describe an elephant if you've only gotten a vague impression of it...and trying to describe it to someone who may have never experienced one????
Exactly.

Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
Worse though, is that as we are trying to describe the elephant, many people (types) expect us to use perfect language...the first attempt. Somehow, we are expected to know which aspect of their language will trigger the proper imagery in their mind... If we use the wrong language, we are immediately dismissed or attacked for being illogical/incoherent. Some types even end the conversation right there, or call us a liar because some word we used held a different meaning for them than the concept to which we were referring to.
Yes. That's exactly what it's like. It's like we have to perceive AND judge at the same time. It's like having to communicate one's epiphany using C++. And when we do all that... jumping through hoops, bending ourselves over backwards... all the praise we get is... well, none at all, really. They take it all for granted. Makes you want to point something at them and go "your turn, arsehole. Let's see you use some ."

It's in your signature, isn't it? "If the perception is poor then good logic will give you a faulty answer. There is even the added danger that good logic will give a false arrogance with which to hold the false answer." The ideal world would be one full of INTJs or ISTJs listening to us with open minds, then using our perceptions as a basis for their - well, for whatever it is they're doing.

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