Quote Originally Posted by thistle View Post
You might have been influenced by me saying I relate most to IJ temperament.

In your experience is IJ temperament more likely to be robotic in their mannerisms than the other temperaments?

That's a good point about my Ne examples relating to Se, instead: because they involve objects and ways in which I can assemble them.
"robotic" i cant relate to any temperament. what's in what i said that u'd describe as "robotic"? do you mean "SEIs don't "strive" just push?i took IJ in socionic terms to mean u relate more to ESI. IJs in MBTI terms have a perceptive function that guides them. it's related partially in a particular way to conscientiousness which is also impulsivity. it means to follow ur inner impulses that come through the perceptive function. I defined Si here on behalf of a SEI as something like "doing things based on internal impulses". there is a rational function in Jungian terms about IP types that guides them instead. They make decisions more concsiously. IJs have a thing thats collection of perceptions interrelated overtime that makes them act as if they already know things while the IP seem to make a lot of calculations on the spot to make Se/Ne ideas about how they could handle something. in that sense IPs are more rigid that's valued 2D Si/Ni that keeps them thinking on one spot while IJs are continuous/fluid.

assembling objects could be Ni Ne with a Ti role and valued Te. since u said it happens rarely. if i scratch quadra values, LSEs tend to be very underhanded. EII is the reverse so u could be hating that?
a psychology thing about u giving those examples for Ne could also be that u lack something else instead which u happen to make up with Ne which u give as an example of Ne but it's a poor example if u want to "prove" Ne bc it could be too many other things. u also do seem pretty sheltered. so that could be ur life enabling u/forcing u to be stuck in Si instead of forcing u to/rewarding u for using Ne.
could be related to u having mentality like this
- To do as I say I will, try to avoid empty talk. I strive to do this as much as possible, but I am not perfect.
that i may have interpreted wrong. if an EII said it it could have a bit different meaning than ESI

ur life seems boring. EII can def struggle with that but they could also manage it/find shelter in that kind of thing. U seem stable living like that. ESIs when stagnate they suffer and indulge in something. I don't see that Se trying to break free in you. You could be indulging Ne, looking at different social scenarios and relationships when reading the books along with the Fi. The ESI I knew loved books but she couldnt do without drugs sex dressing up or traveling. We have Phoenix Fire going hard on doing her aesthetics thing. Now ESI is ruled out.
I'm afraid of the change landing me in a worse position than I am now.
Ti-Fe valuing.
*if intuitive. Fi Te ppl force things their way. this means if a change would make u in a bad position they would still take it bc they have to accocmodate Fi. then push through with Te. ESI would struggle more due to Ne PoLR.
now that i assume u have a Si comfort zone that rules out Se and thus ESI it gives context about what u said of ur "position now".
SEIs being 1D Ne makes them blind to Ne things sometimes AND they value Ne unlike ESI. SEIs dont avoid something that's too Ne for them in part bc they may fail to perceive its implications or not care enough bc they still want it and they dont lead with an introverted rational function to consider a lot further. in that way they take unintended risks. one is duck with knife and machine gun other is futuristic damaged robots. mine is Se. we go like that urs is Si. a worker bee? coincidence goes way too far. its also Te.

have to think about EII or IEE. u dont step on toes too much. u do think too much. i dont think u are Ti PoLR. Inumbra was right. prolly about ennea too.

i wonder if women are better at typing.

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