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Hopefully this post comes out in order. If not, blame the VBulletin system. I clicked it in order. Anyway:

You not smiling EVER/not caring about people to observe something like that does not give much credence to SEE typing. They still have 4D Fe, they're unconsciously going to notice when something is not jiving with the Fe atmosphere, including how much other people feel at home with it, how much they smile, etc. And then gravitate towards the ones that seem to be jutting out of it, Fe polr style.

Yeah. I'm generally not engaged with the atmopshere, nor do I really care a lot about it. I'm more of a person who likes to do their own thing and get things done, regardless of the atmopshere going on around me. Unless it's like a party or something, then I'll engage (unless it's terrible). Drink helps massively too. For me, it's not a constant situation but more of an on/off one. I'm not engaged much with the atmopshere because I don't see it as something of relevance. Especially when nothing is getting done. It's nice, but not the centre of importance for me. Sometimes I make my own if I'm bored or drunk but not often at all.

That’s not how my mind works. I can’t explain socionics very well. I’m not motivated to learn things off heart, at least for now.

But you’ve managed to get my attention, in a way that IEEs often do.

Even the question you’re asking me feels like IEE-IEI interaction. You see, I read some of your comments and ‘reasons’ for typing you IEE would have flashed through my mind but by the time IEE popped into my head, I can’t really remember the reasons or it’s too much effort to explain them Sometimes contrary pairs find it draining to explain their ideas to each other I think.

Also, the way you sort of bounce around a lot of ideas and have a bit of a bite to your communication style seems IEE. At the same time there is something over all softer (intuitive?) about your language compared to SEE.

This article comes to mind too:

http://www.socionics.com/articles/hiddena.htm

Also- I have an IEE (tritype 714) friend so it may be that you remind me of him

I said don't use vibes. And that was basically a long-winded explanation of the vibes you get. What concrete evidence do you actually have? Feelings aren't concrete. Ideas either, but sure. How do you even know that you're IEI? Assuming you are, just because I got your attention, it doesn't mean that I am an IEE.

The whole vagueness of why people assume things is another reason that I refuse to take peoples reasoning without an alright explanation seriously. Reminding people of other people doesn't count either. I get it that it's hard for you to explain things sometimes, but jumping into things is just as bad as not explaining them at all. Being put on the spot isn't good either, but I dunno. I'm not saying that I expect a perfect explanation that makes 100% sense but since you've read more than one post, I expect things to be better explained.

I don't think my languge is soft at all. I think that it's straightforward enough and that doesn't make it "intuitive" because I'm not being brash at you, or telling you that I want to kick you to the curb. I'm trying to be reasonable and that doesn't amount to jack when it comes to type. I think that you're just reading too much into it.

Also, that article's like not very good either because it's basically minimising the IMEs to words such as "wealth", "love" etc. They are much more nuanced than that. It also assumes that each person from each type is certain to want those things. That website isn't detailed, nor does it explain its sources and conclusions well, so I don't reccomend it at all.

they’re feeling under threat..? I have seen SEI do it too.

What is this crap too? Why would you smile when you're under threat? Humans aren't alligators. 0 people I know smile when they're under threat.

Why do women smile artificially. While some do, surprise, it's generally artificial. Why do people fantasize over this concept of genuine vs fake? I don't get it. If a person smiles, it's a real smile. If a person smiles and is unhappy, they're actually theoretically making themselves happy.

Yep. Or just don't smile at all.