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    @remiges

    Thanks! :)

    Yes, I still have difficulty recognizing Ne in myself. Checking again now, you're right, the Ne block is indeed longer. But, as I mentioned in the Ne block, I think it's generally in the background, almost like an Id block function. In general, possibilities, ideas, etc. spontaneously occur to me throughout the day, but I very rarely consciously generate them unless specifically prompted. That's why I don't relate to Ne.

    It's not possible within the theory to have Id Ne and Ego Ti. So, I'm still curious how a supposedly Ego block function can be nearly unconscious by default unless I deliberately bring it into consciousness. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by remiges
    Also, bringing up a possibility -> evaluating it for logical consistency -> another possibility -> evaluating it for logical consistency, Ti-Ne, iteration, is a common theme throughout this whole questionnaire.
    Thanks for bringing this to my attention as well, as I hadn't noticed this either. From my POV, I didn't generate any possibilities in writing this questionnaire.

    My understanding is that only the base function should be omnipresent throughout the questionnaire. So I find it interesting, though still consistent with an LII typing, that both Ti and Ne were omnipresent throughout the questionnaire.

    Also, I think the iteration "should" be inverted with Ti first: state a logical rule/principle -> bring up possibilities about it -> state another logical rule/principle -> bring up possibilities about it. But tbh, I didn't see it either way, and, on reflection, I would lean towards your version being more accurate.

    As far as Se - you mentioned it as digging in your heels and being assertive, but I do not think it is physically assertive, or forcing people to your will... there is still an element of trying to convince them, to show them how their conclusion is incorrect by asking questions.
    The reason I don't relate to Se PoLR is because of the opposite situation: when someone tries to demand something from me, push me around, or confront me. Then I insist on my position. I expect the other person to reason with me first. But if they don't make any argument, and just try to intimidate me, I'll withstand the pressure. However, I really choose my battles with this, and my first preference is still to find an alternative around the obstacle. But if I've already determined there is no other way (uncommon), then I can and will stand up for myself and my positions. I'm not able to completely *force* people to my will, but I've never had to.

    I don't relate to Ne PoLR at all but I mostly don't relate to Se PoLR either. I also don't relate at all to Ni or Si, so I can't differentiate by HA.

    Thanks again! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redundantoxymoron View Post
    The reason I don't relate to Se PoLR is because of the opposite situation: when someone tries to demand something from me, push me around, or confront me. Then I insist on my position. I expect the other person to reason with me first. But if they don't make any argument, and just try to intimidate me, I'll withstand the pressure. However, I really choose my battles with this, and my first preference is still to find an alternative around the obstacle. But if I've already determined there is no other way (uncommon), then I can and will stand up for myself and my positions. I'm not able to completely *force* people to my will, but I've never had to.
    This still sounds a lot like LII to me. You aren’t pushovers, pretty stubborn actually. But the PoLR is more evident in not being able to force through and be pushy if someone else is slacking, resists or won’t accept logic. Also overreacting to physical horseplay for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    This still sounds a lot like LII to me. You aren’t pushovers, pretty stubborn actually.
    I agree. LII has a tendency to put people in their place from an intellectual vantage point. Has a way of painting people as foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Chemical Bromance View Post
    I agree. LII has a tendency to put people in their place from an intellectual vantage point. Has a way of painting people as foolish.
    A real LII actually succeeds usually though lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    A real LII actually succeeds usually though lol.
    I'm not too concerned. Coronavirus will ensure the fittest survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redundantoxymoron View Post
    The reason I don't relate to Se PoLR is because of the opposite situation: when someone tries to demand something from me, push me around, or confront me. Then I insist on my position. I expect the other person to reason with me first. But if they don't make any argument, and just try to intimidate me, I'll withstand the pressure. However, I really choose my battles with this, and my first preference is still to find an alternative around the obstacle. But if I've already determined there is no other way (uncommon), then I can and will stand up for myself and my positions. I'm not able to completely *force* people to my will, but I've never had to.
    I think that is true of all introverted judging types - they know what they personally believe or personally think is accurate.

    Finding an alternative around the obstacle, wanting to find another way is Ne... but you’re still a judging type and once the options run out you’ll still stick to that judgment at the end of the day, rather than change your mind.

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