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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Yes the Ne optimism shows up in my words when I say “well at least he’s trying!” Or “well at least he’s a great cook!” Look at the bright side lol
    See this really interplays nicely into my own dynamic with LSE, especially at work, because I have to work with lots of ST types in my chosen industry. We work great together, but when they start to get cloudy and moody like this I have zero desire to help them see the bright side of things, as I can also get equally as cloudy. We mutually just can't help each other here. I just dig in harder to what I'm doing at work and think to myself that nothing is permanent. This impermanency allows me to sail by work place troubles and focus on what needs to be done in real time and set aside my feelings towards things (smoother sailing lies ahead...eventually).

    I just don't use the same metrics in life when judging people as LSE do, so I find myself not caring about what they judge about people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    See this really interplays nicely into my own dynamic with LSE, especially at work, because I have to work with lots of ST types in my chosen industry. We work great together, but when they start to get cloudy and moody like this I have zero desire to help them see the bright side of things, as I can also get equally as cloudy. We mutually just can't help each other here. I just dig in harder to what I'm doing at work and think to myself that nothing is permanent. This impermanency allows me to sail by work place troubles and focus on what needs to be done in real time and set aside my feelings towards things (smoother sailing lies ahead...eventually).

    I just don't use the same metrics in life when judging people as LSE do, so I find myself not caring about what they judge about people.
    You don’t have to help them with anything. They value static relationships. That means just be there and with their mood be patient and let them complain. It will pass.

    Hi LSE. How you doing?
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    Aww feel better soon okay!! I’ll see you tomorrow MY Friend
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    You don’t have to help them with anything. They value static relationships. That means just be there and with their mood be patient and let them complain. It will pass.
    To much of a concession to be honest. I will put up with this stuff for only so long, eventually I'll just quit the job. I have done this a number of times for this reason. The staticness is fine but if you are going to be fucking bitchy all the time about Te and Fi stryfe then I'm outty 5 hundo. I am a very patient man, to a fault, but at the same time I will eventually snap show if I have to hear negativity all the time (I can get negative myself so...two negatives don't make a positive). About 3 months is my maximum.

    This also ties into why Deltas fail at Fe, because what they fail to notice is their "problems" are a form of negativity and being negative is like a cancer, especially in a work place. This negativity really is a call for dual information...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    To much of a concession to be honest. I will put up with this stuff for only so long, eventually I'll just quit the job. I have done this a number of times for this reason. The staticness is fine but if you are going to be fucking bitchy all the time about Te and Fi stryfe then I'm outty 5 hundo. I am a very patient man, to a fault, but at the same time I will eventually snap show if I have to hear negativity all the time (I can get negative myself so...two negatives don't make a positive). About 3 months is my maximum.

    This also ties into why Deltas fail at Fe, because what they fail to notice is their "problems" are a form of negativity and being negative is like a cancer, especially in a work place. This negativity really is a call for dual information...
    Fair enough. Sounds like you have it down.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    there is some humour
    the least acceptance of homosexuality (the most open aversion to it) and the most often open expression of homosexuality relates to the same quadra - beta

    nonvalued Ne predisposes to avoid strange, valued Fe predisposes to strict social norms
    while
    nonvalued Si predisposes to abnormal sexual practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    there is some humour
    the least acceptance of homosexuality (the most open aversion to it) and the most often open expression of homosexuality relates to the same quadra - beta

    nonvalued Ne predisposes to avoid strange, valued Fe predisposes to strict social norms
    while
    nonvalued Si predisposes to abnormal sexual practice
    What function predisposes one to reach bizarre conclusions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    What function predisposes one to reach bizarre conclusions?
    Se Devalued and in the subconscious blocks. Idealistic thinking and feelings towards people and relationships. Setting standards that can not be matched in reality leading to misenthropy and difficulty in actual relationships. LSE

    My significant exactly
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    there is some humour
    the least acceptance of homosexuality (the most open aversion to it) and the most often open expression of homosexuality relates to the same quadra - beta

    nonvalued Ne predisposes to avoid strange, valued Fe predisposes to strict social norms
    while
    nonvalued Si predisposes to abnormal sexual practice
    Idk dude. I don't think Si/Se has anything to do with kinky. That's different. I've seen kinky people of all quadras.

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