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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    You act as if I’m the only one who is reacting to your lack of self-awareness this way. Read what everyone else has said about you.

    I agree that you’re type 6 and could see you having some INTERNAL occasional melancholic-choleric feelings, but it doesn’t come across that way on the outside.



    Don’t know what your point with this is. Same here, everyone is like this with what they consider to be fuckups.



    6 is literally the most variable enneagram type along with 9. I wouldn’t base socionics type on that at all.



    Then why do you think you’re melancholic? My point was more about self-testing as “evidence” of anything being unreliable, or at the very least seems redundant if you’re so convinced of yourself already by the way.
    Because its my temperament since birth. See 4 temperaments / DISC types for work environment: D (dominance), I (influence), S (steadiness), and C (conscientiousness)

    My base temperament is this and its not something I can change:

    THE HIGH C (Melancholy)

    The Melancholy temperament has three combinations: Melancholy-Choleric, Melancholy-Sanguine, and Melancholy-Phlegmatic.

    The traits of the primary temperament, Melancholy, may be altered or modified in some significant way due to the influence of the secondary temperament. Remember, there are at least three levels of intensity of a temperament: classic, moderate, and mild. Some Melancholies will be very strong, others somewhat strong, and still others more mild.

    The Melancholy naturally wants to do things right, and is quality-oriented. Melancholies are not trying to be right, they are driven to figure out what is right. They have a cautious, tentative response designed to reduce tension in an unfavorable environment. The Melancholy’s second response is often to become aggressive to restore peace in an unfavorable situation. They influence their environment by adhering to the existing rules, and by doing things right according to predetermined (and accepted) standards.

    Melancholies are detailed-oriented, operate from a plan, and they are very private. Melancholies are introverted, logical, analytical, and factual in communication. They need information, time alone to think, and a detailed plan in order to function effectively without anxiety.

    Melancholies respond to others in a slow, cautious, and indirect manner. They are reserved and suspicious until they are sure of your intentions. Melancholies probe for the hidden meaning behind your words. They are timid, may appear unsure, and have a serious expression. Melancholies are self-sacrificing, gifted, and they can be a perfectionist.

    Melancholies are conscientious, picky, and can be sensitive to what others think of their work. They have anxiety about the present and future. They tend to have guilt feelings but fail to realize that guilt will not change the past nor will worry change the future. They allow guilt and worry to rob them of enjoying the present.

    Melancholies are well organized. However, on occasion, they may keep things cluttered, but they will know what is in the piles. They are determined to make the right and best decision so they will collect lots of information, and ask very specific questions, and sometimes they will ask the same question several times. They may take excessive time to think about their options before making a decision. Even then, they may not be sure it is the right, and best decision.

    Melancholies need reassurance, feedback, and reasons why they should do something. They can be moody, which is usually related to their negative evaluation of people or events.

    Melancholies fear taking risks, making wrong decisions, and being viewed as incompetent. They tend to have a negative attitude toward something new until they have had time to think it through. Melancholies are skeptical about almost everything, but they are creative and capable people. They tend to get bored with something once they get it figured out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphaeales View Post
    Idk for certain what the objective of this response is, but I have come across ILEs who have similar thought processes to you and are similar to you fwiw. ILEs who have similar sentiments such as "Fuck the system! Big corporation is a sham and treats people like farm animals!" and shit like that. Also your general demeanor, usage of emoji (since you keep bringing that up in past posts), the way you interact with others, and so on I've seen in other ILEs. I've never seen an ILI seriously act like this for extended periods of time, only rarely in short bursts when they're trying to be funny after they've gotten to know a person well.

    Pe and Pi is not super routine but they can obviously still have good work ethic. I've actually met SEIs who get employee of the month awards and practice good work ethic, even though they aren't consumed by their work life and make time for recreation.

    TL;DR is you wouldn't be an odd case for ILE if that's what you're trying to say.
    Its more complicated than "fuck the system" but its better to not talk about any specifics. I like emojis :3, true.
    IF ILE can be melancholic in temperament or DISC C type, then I'm ILE.
    Last edited by SGF; 08-12-2020 at 02:30 PM.

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