View Poll Results: Which Identity relation is better?

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Thread: Subtypes in Identical Relations

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    any sort of mismatch in rational/irrational is really grating in my experience.

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    Dunno, from my analysis of myself, I think i'd get along great with my identicals. The only thing that would be a problem is the POLR.

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    To me the distinction between identicals of same and different subtypes is somewhat equivalent to the distinction between mirror and identity relationships when subtypes aren't taken into account. Which one of these is 'better' per se really depends on the individuals and how well they get along in general. I imagine that same subtype identicals would on average be more understanding of each other's motivations and perspectives on life, while with different subtypes there's just that much more disparity between each other's focus and priority.

    For example, I'll take two ENFp friends of mine, Ne and Fi subs respectively. The Ne sub was my best friend all through high school, but I couldn't help but be annoyed by his innate self-distracting nature. Part of this could also just be him being 7w6, but I had always found it hard to get him to stay fixed in the topic I was trying to discuss. At points he would even interrupt himself just to say something that came to mind, only to then forget what he was talking about in the first place. Needless to say, this annoyed me greatly, because while I could sort of understand how these things in his head came to mind, he had no apparent control over how his mind would deal with such nuggets of thought.

    I feel as if I had a much greater mutual understanding with the Fi subtype. Our energy levels were roughly the same, our perspectives on life and the things within it were eerily and comfortingly similar, and despite our varying fields of interest (music vs history) we found it easy to communicate them to each other. My experience with him was much more limited than with the Ne sub, but I ultimately felt a stronger sense of kinship and like-mindedness with the Fi sub.

    Again to caveat, I'm sure that there are individuals of both subtypes (on this board, no less) that I will both get along with and not. The quote in the OP sums it up pretty well I think.

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    Super-Super-super identicals are just kinda creepy. You tend to naturally avoid interacting with them, because there's a tendency to say exactly the same words at the same moment, given the same kind of stimuli.

    I'm not talking about identicals with a similar subtype, I'm referring to a different kind of cosmic alignment. I know another ENTj that looks like me, same heigth, similar voice, same humor, same intellectual interests, same kind of schools and type of work, hell we even used to be friends with the same people even without knowing each other. That's just...creeepy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Super-Super-super identicals are just kinda creepy. You tend to naturally avoid interacting with them, because there's a tendency to say exactly the same words at the same moment, given the same kind of stimuli.
    I have made a similar experience with my best friend. Sure, that's not just because we're probably identicals, but also because we share a lot of our past experiences when we were at school together, but we sometimes said exactly the same thing. That might as well be a stupid insider joke which is 8 years old. Given the fact that we both had to remember it and made the connection to the current situation, this is quite an accomplishment. It just emphasizes the similar way of thinking. However, we are rather different in our personal interests and also appearance. Otherwise, it would really be tough as we are both strong individiualists.
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    I like Newborn STAR a lot. I like his method of getting under people's skin. It's not offensive to me personally. Everybody bites, and his biting is alright with me.

    I'm glad I have a new dual on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I like Newborn STAR a lot. I like his method of getting under people's skin. It's not offensive to me personally. Everybody bites, and his biting is alright with me.

    I'm glad I have a new dual on the forum.
    He's not SLE.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    It's not about like/dislike, it's about the actual relation, which I will agree with same-sub.

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    It's weird but to be honest, if I met someone exactly like me I'm not sure I'd like them. I'd respect them, and work well with them or whatever, but I get the feeling we wouldn't really say that much to each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    It's weird but to be honest, if I met someone exactly like me I'm not sure I'd like them. I'd respect them, and work well with them or whatever, but I get the feeling we wouldn't really say that much to each other.
    That's what happened to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    It's weird but to be honest, if I met someone exactly like me I'm not sure I'd like them. I'd respect them, and work well with them or whatever, but I get the feeling we wouldn't really say that much to each other.
    • Although I was the first pick to replace their band's fired bassist, two friends passed me over in favor of someone else because they reckoned their singer and were I too similar to work together without constantly stepping on one another's toes.
    • A female friend used to date a certain artist/musician whose work I admired, and when I asked her what he was like in person she laughed, "Oh, you'd hate each other, you're both just alike."


    I haven't identified more than a handful of identicals among my real-life associates so it would be premature to declare any intelligible patterns there concerning subtype in relation to the OP. Among supposed super-identicals on the forum there are still differences in interests, attitudes, experiences, sex, goals/desires, etc. that can reduce consistency in communications. The same can be said of differences explicable through enneatype and instinct stacking, or other means. So although the OP seems sensible in itself, in practice and at present I observe too many exceptions within my meager sample base to lend it assent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    It's weird but to be honest, if I met someone exactly like me I'm not sure I'd like them. I'd respect them, and work well with them or whatever, but I get the feeling we wouldn't really say that much to each other.
    ditto...
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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