Pride - the main motive of LSEs-ESTjs?

[Beautiful sky]

One MAJOR THING:

HE'S VERY PROTECTIVE OF ME. A major aspect of an LSE type, which is not your trait.

"They may, however, show brief flashes of protectiveness and confrontation if they have been attacked in any way.
LSEs have a clear awareness of how they look to those around them."

Someone attacked our relationship and you should have seen him react. He told this person off, severed ties, and didn't care how long he know him or how "important" this person was.

[UDP]

I'm not 'protective' of you on the forum because I disagree with your take on socionics.

[Beautiful sky]

I'm not 'protective' of you on the forum because I disagree with your take on socionics.

You don't seem to get it. I'm an Ne type and weakest Se, which means I can't defend my interests and I love my ideas (for which I need support for). Which means I need a strong willed person, a protective person. That isn't you. You haven't taken that role. I don't know how I look to others around me (as Dj has pointed out several times before). This is another reason why I need to be protected as I concentrate not on how I come off but what the content of my ideas are.

Duals do it naturally. Especially LSE protect those who are seen as weak and incapable of defending themselves. I believe you've generously stood by and let me be trembled in all sorts of ways.

Sorry, you're not my dual.

[DirectorAbbie]

I'm not protective of duals on the forum. I can't tell whether they want to be protected.


Pride is a side-effect, not a cause.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

UDP said it already, but I would think of an LSE's pride as a sense of satisfaction over doing something well. That's not a bad thing, within reason.

[UDP]

UDP said it already, but I would think of an LSE's pride as a sense of satisfaction over doing something well. That's not a bad thing, within reason.

I have no idea why, but, my mind is connecting that (above) to this:

8w9's are more likely to let anger build up within themselves, which may manifest in constant bitterness and harshness. Like 8w7's, they view conflict as a way of life, but do not enjoy it as much, since when they are in rebellion against the outside world, they are also in rebellion against a part of themselves that would rather do without the hassle and zone out. They are slow to conflict - they would often rather stand "en garde" and wait for their adversary to "cross the line" - but when they involve themselves in conflict, their hostility has a relentless, sado-masochistic quality to it. They willfully numb their tender feelings, and show a tough face to the world. 8w9's are conspicuously sensitive to the issue of personal boundaries - both their own and everyone else's. "Stay out of my business, and I'll stay out of yours," they will often say in a measured tone that conveys great respect for the other while making it subtly clear that they will not be crossed. When they lighten up, they can be intensely devoted to the protection of others, especially defenseless people whom they have affection for. However, trust does not come easily to them. "Every person's survival is his own business."

And to this:



~the first two minutes when Seprihoth loses it.
I'm not saying Sephiroth the character is LSE or 8w9. It just triggered a connection.

[Marie84]

it actually makes sense if you read the LSE parts as LSI, Ij temperament instead of Ej (referring to Maritsa's posts)