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    https://youtu.be/Fdc9cPRlcEw?si=glZOOjTDp6I5axdh

    These people think they have visited a genius with time travel tech. One could say they are deltas and the man is gamma. In the last scene they agree that all you need is love and the guy just stands there which doesn’t mean much but this post had to be made. No it did not.
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    This woman seems ESI

    Guardian of trads. Emphasizes that caring comes from external sources, as in forms of trading. Hence, she is an aggressor over a caregiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reality Denialist View Post
    This woman seems ESI

    Guardian of trads. Emphasizes that caring comes from external sources, as in forms of trading. Hence, she is an aggressor over a caregiver.
    She looks like that "God > Men > Women > Child" girl that I don't know the name of

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    She looks like that "God > Men > Women > Child" girl that I don't know the name of
    Let's pray that her doppelgänger finds @Adam Strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reality Denialist View Post
    Let's pray that her doppelgänger finds @Adam Strange.
    My impression of her is that she’s EIE. But I’ll have to watch more, later, to be more sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    My impression of her is that she’s EIE. But I’ll have to watch more, later, to be more sure.
    For the love Jesus's shaven beard and pubes. Look at her content. https://www.youtube.com/@FarfromEden/videos
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    I want to add the following, if there is a prototype of ESI she is it. Seems to tick most boxes. She has multiple sclerosis, so it has driven her to do this kind of content and ideologies, it seems.
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    looks IEI to me. "Women need to hear the truth" - ah, Ni doms and their truths.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Maybe gamma rational dyad
    https://youtube.com/@EvaandJavier?si=RvMQx-zl7E-YH7Sq

    she may be ESI-Se

    they are kind of funny to me but many don’t seem to like their humor based on the comments I’ve seen

    definitely inferior Fi humor like this one https://youtube.com/shorts/wZWAxedrJ...voapjRf13yodp1

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    Male ESI and female LIE/IEE


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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosebud View Post
    Maybe gamma rational dyad
    https://youtube.com/@EvaandJavier?si=RvMQx-zl7E-YH7Sq

    she may be ESI-Se
    Actually, I think she's SLE. She has Beta force written all over her face. He might be ESI, though. He's got that "morality first" reaction to everything.

    I've seen several examples of ESIs and SLEs getting together. For a while. Before they break up.

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    they are kind of funny to me but many don’t seem to like their humor based on the comments I’ve seen

    definitely inferior Fi humor like this one https://youtube.com/shorts/wZWAxedrJ...voapjRf13yodp1
    In this video, the wife is clearly SLE and the sister is ESI. In my opinion.
    I'm not surprised that they made a video in which he likes the sister (Identical) better than his wife (Supervisee). I am surprised that they don't see the truth in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by on a peaceful hiatus View Post
    looks IEI to me. "Women need to hear the truth" - ah, Ni doms and their truths.
    The lesson most of us refuse to learn is that people will, ultimately, believe the truth if they are simply told it "in a way they'll understand" as we tend to see it. The chief sentiment of dominants is "Nobody else seems to really think about things". Our curse, if we see it as such, is that we are akin to Casandra. The curse the Greek Gods leveled upon the poor girl was that she would unerringly be able to see the future but that, no matter how hard she tried to warn others of any impending disaster or calamity, nobody would believe her. She could point to the tide receding unnaturally fast at a time that doesn't make sense as a sign we now know is indicative of an incoming Tidal Wave and be laughed out of town right before they all die and all they built gets destroyed a few hours later.

    This is a thing I'm sure both IEI's and ILI's share in common and hence why they are "Kindred" both in spirit and in type relation. The IEI may see the ILI as unnecessarily harsh and binary in their evaluations of situations as the ILI will view the IEI as being too "soft" or forgiving but they will both get that at least they are both actually trying to "think" about the problem.

    Our weakness, our fault, is that we tend to believe that if we just put it to people in the right way. If we just tell them what they need to hear with the "correct" words (IEI) or spell it out to everyone with mathematical precision (ILI). That people will just admit we are right and "get with the program" as it were. This is a utopian delusion. Nietzsche, a most famous ILI, spoke of this with Zarathustra. The "Last Man" was his nightmare yet when he told people of it publicly they all asked for him to tell them how to be like the Last Man.

    He thought, like all of us, that other people were like him and that if he was horrified about something others would be too if he told them about it. They were not. In fact, they were ecstatic about the actualization of what was, to him, a manifestation of the abyss and the doom of all of humanity. The great "error" most people of any and all types make is that they assume that other people are exactly like them and then get confused, scared, and shocked when they find that others are, well, not.

    I've recently started reading the novel "Shogun" by James Clavell and the work encapsulates this perfectly. Catholics, Protestants, Shinto, etc. All find and admire things in the others they legitimately admire and respect while being utterly flabbergasted by the behaviors they exhibit when it doesn't fit within their own systems. The Samurai are utterly at a loss for context when John and Rodriguez fearlessly do what needs to be done to guide a ship full of heathens during a storm at sea when both have, in their eyes, refused to do what must be done when they lost face and openly insulted each other directly. It helped that they couldn't understand that they were insulting each other as few in 1600's Japan knew English/Spanish/Latin/etc. but it's not hard to figure out when one man pissed another man off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    The lesson most of us refuse to learn is that people will, ultimately, believe the truth if they are simply told it "in a way they'll understand" as we tend to see it. The chief sentiment of dominants is "Nobody else seems to really think about things". Our curse, if we see it as such, is that we are akin to Casandra. The curse the Greek Gods leveled upon the poor girl was that she would unerringly be able to see the future but that, no matter how hard she tried to warn others of any impending disaster or calamity, nobody would believe her. She could point to the tide receding unnaturally fast at a time that doesn't make sense as a sign we now know is indicative of an incoming Tidal Wave and be laughed out of town right before they all die and all they built gets destroyed a few hours later. This is a thing I'm sure both IEI's and ILI's share in common and hence why they are "Kindred" both in spirit and in type relation. The IEI may see the ILI as unnecessarily harsh and binary in their evaluations of situations as the ILI will view the IEI as being too "soft" or forgiving but they will both get that at least they are both actually trying to "think" about the problem. Our weakness, our fault, is that we tend to believe that if we just put it to people in the right way. If we just tell them what they need to hear with the "correct" words (IEI) or spell it out to everyone with mathematical precision (ILI). That people will just admit we are right and "get with the program" as it were. This is a utopian delusion. Nietzsche, a most famous ILI, spoke of this with Zarathustra. The "Last Man" was his nightmare yet when he told people of it publicly they all asked for him to tell them how to be like the Last Man. He thought, like all of us, that other people were like him and that if he was horrified about something others would be too if he told them about it. They were not. In fact, they were ecstatic about the actualization of what was, to him, a manifestation of the abyss and the doom of all of humanity. The great "error" most people of any and all types make is that they assume that other people are exactly like them and then get confused, scared, and shocked when they find that others are, well, not. I've recently started reading the novel "Shogun" by James Clavell and the work encapsulates this perfectly. Catholics, Protestants, Shinto, etc. All find and admire things in the others they legitimately admire and respect while being utterly flabbergasted by the behaviors they exhibit when it doesn't fit within their own systems. The Samurai are utterly at a loss for context when John and Rodriguez fearlessly do what needs to be done to guide a ship full of heathens during a storm at sea when both have, in their eyes, refused to do what must be done when they lost face and openly insulted each other directly. It helped that they couldn't understand that they were insulting each other as few in 1600's Japan knew English/Spanish/Latin/etc. but it's not hard to figure out when one man pissed another man off.
    The problem with Ni is that it's often wildly off-base (this is a problem Ne also has), and the rest of the time, usually, what it sees isn't particularly obscure. 4D Ni types can have occasional flashes of real brilliance, but 99% of the time, all Ni does is notice shit that other people don't seem to want to notice. I guess this is what you mean by feeling that people don't think.

    But if even IxI have such problems getting through to people, I wonder what Ni demonstrative types are supposed to do. IxI at least have the benefit of a rational extraverted function; xII just have Ne as our only decent extraverted function. Which doesn't really speak the language of Ni, and isn't really taken seriously by people who aren't Ne types in the first place (no matter how successful it makes you, it seems "weird," "childish," "unserious," and so on). So how does an xII push people into noticing things they don't seem to want to notice? And to be honest we have our own problems with Ni anyway. Holding it in mind for long is hard, and especially putting its vision into clear speech is draining.

    There have been a lot of times I've wanted to get through to people. I don't think I've ever been able, or even really changed someone's trajectory. At least Cassandra caused some drama and got locked up for a while. I often feel more like a ghost, unable to substantively change anything at all.

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    Now that I think about it, I wonder if a reason IxI aren't taken seriously is their own tendency to seem "weird." I think IxI can be a little myopic, maybe because of Ne ignoring. But this, and the times N can be wrong, get used often to justify ignoring common sense by people who should know better.
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    9. The Introverted Intuitive Type

    ...Through this realization he feels bound to transform his vision into his own life. But, since he tends to rely exclusively upon his vision, his moral effort becomes one-sided; he makes himself and his life symbolic, adapted, it is true, to the inner and eternal meaning of events, but unadapted to the actual present-day reality. Therewith he also deprives himself of any influence upon it, because he remains unintelligible. His language is not that which is commonly spoken -- it becomes too subjective. His argument lacks convincing reason. He can only confess or pronounce. His is the 'voice of one crying in the wilderness'.
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    I think this sort of description only really applies to specifics kinds of Ni base types, but not all of them are otherwordly philosophers. It's interesting that Sabine Hossenfelder made a song about Cassandra, even though most people type her as "logical" type.

    https://youtu.be/7BkZ1gXqYy4?si=IEJfZWdBgpLiwO7O
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    But if even IxI have such problems getting through to people, I wonder what Ni demonstrative types are supposed to do. [...] So how does an xII push people into noticing things they don't seem to want to notice? And to be honest we have our own problems with Ni anyway. Holding it in mind for long is hard, and especially putting its vision into clear speech is draining.

    There have been a lot of times I've wanted to get through to people. I don't think I've ever been able, or even really changed someone's trajectory. At least Cassandra caused some drama and got locked up for a while. I often feel more like a ghost, unable to substantively change anything at all.

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    Now that I think about it, I wonder if a reason IxI aren't taken seriously is their own tendency to seem "weird." I think IxI can be a little myopic, maybe because of Ne ignoring. But this, and the times N can be wrong, get used often to justify ignoring common sense by people who should know better.
    There are TIM receptive to and influenced by Ne, they will change the trajectory of things 'sometimes their own and sometimes that of others (by for instance bringing some changes in the environment so that people can feel more comfortable).

    However, I've noticed that LII is a type of whom the ideas are often stolen. People who steal their ideas often don't give them back credits. One can consider that tendency as a main way of changing the trajectory of things albeit in an indirect way.



    That said, sometimes idea stealing happens in a totally unconscious way and people genuinely think that the idea comes from them. It happened to me all the time with one of my uncles (back in the days). In some of our conversations or debates, I would talk to him and brings some ideas which he would either reject completely or seem to not have heard at all (he has the tendency to zoom out looking at you but not being attentive) but few seconds later (sometimes it can take one or two minutes but it usually happens before the conversation or debate is closed) he would bring the very idea idea(s) I suggested (that"s probably a keyword !) as if it was a personal epiphany ! When I would say to him that I've just told him "that", he wouldn't believe me and say that I was saying something else (usually something he didn't agree with before his "epiphany" !). I wonder if people here have ever experienced something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    The problem with Ni is that it's often wildly off-base (this is a problem Ne also has), and the rest of the time, usually, what it sees isn't particularly obscure. 4D Ni types can have occasional flashes of real brilliance, but 99% of the time, all Ni does is notice shit that other people don't seem to want to notice. I guess this is what you mean by feeling that people don't think.

    But if even IxI have such problems getting through to people, I wonder what Ni demonstrative types are supposed to do. IxI at least have the benefit of a rational extraverted function; xII just have Ne as our only decent extraverted function. Which doesn't really speak the language of Ni, and isn't really taken seriously by people who aren't Ne types in the first place (no matter how successful it makes you, it seems "weird," "childish," "unserious," and so on). So how does an xII push people into noticing things they don't seem to want to notice? And to be honest we have our own problems with Ni anyway. Holding it in mind for long is hard, and especially putting its vision into clear speech is draining.

    There have been a lot of times I've wanted to get through to people. I don't think I've ever been able, or even really changed someone's trajectory. At least Cassandra caused some drama and got locked up for a while. I often feel more like a ghost, unable to substantively change anything at all.

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    Now that I think about it, I wonder if a reason IxI aren't taken seriously is their own tendency to seem "weird." I think IxI can be a little myopic, maybe because of Ne ignoring. But this, and the times N can be wrong, get used often to justify ignoring common sense by people who should know better.
    Clear and direct communication is the only path I see forward for anyone who shares either or as their "intuitive" function and the insights it brings with those who just don't "get it" like we do.

    Part of what I was getting at was that what is "obvious" to most people is only obvious to themselves alone. Your "obvious" hints are only obvious because you are the one giving them to the other person and you aren't able to conceive of the possibility that others are NOT just like you!

    Again, this was a very, oh so very hard lesson for me to learn and I only did so because I learned it the hard way. Yet now I have. I'm a lot less angry at other people now.

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    typed ILE on pdb but ENTJ in mbti. well a dating app making u a millionaire sounds more like Te Ni to me anyway. also autistic. cofounder of bumble
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post

    typed ILE on pdb but ENTJ in mbti. well a dating app making u a millionaire sounds more like Te Ni to me anyway. also autistic. cofounder of bumble
    she looks like Cathy Hummels to me, ex-wife of soccer player Mats Hummels. they are a famous couple in germany and both IEI in my opinion

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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    I wanna know where the SEI got that jacket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post


    I wanna know where the SEI got that jacket.
    Probably tailor-made but I think you’ll get a response if you ask in the comments

    Apparently he used to be in the military and NASA and holds patents for interdimensional communications

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    A Psych For Sore Minds, LIE. He seems to tell lots of awkward jokes.

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    Is he LIE ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Distance View Post


    Is he LIE ?
    I believe that Jerry Lewis was LIE. He made a bunch of movies with SEE Dean Martin, and they had a relationship that could be described as Activity between two extroverts. They got really manic together and had a lot of trouble sharing the stage with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I believe that Jerry Lewis was LIE. He made a bunch of movies with SEE Dean Martin, and they had a relationship that could be described as Activity between two extroverts. They got really manic together and had a lot of trouble sharing the stage with each other.
    He uses some analogies like you do sometimes, Adam, i.e., looks N.

    I put this out there hoping you would see it, i recall you thought we was LIE in a post around here at onetime.

    He has the EJ rapid fire energy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Distance View Post
    He uses some analogies like you do sometimes, Adam, i.e., looks N.

    I put this out there hoping you would see it, i recall you thought we was LIE in post around here at onetime.

    He has the EJ rapid fire energy.
    Yes, Jerry Lewis also looks like my cousin's LIE husband. I don't talk to her husband much because he's a MAGA republican, but he's definitely LIE.

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    Jerry Lewis reminds of Denzel for some reason..



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    Christine Kamstrup Dam - ILI

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    LIE

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    A lot of what he talks about is true in certain cases, but I think that the real distinction between a woman who is good, or bad, in bed isn't so much one of learned technique, but rather is in the mind behind her eyes.

    For me, some female LSIs have this in abundance. They can be young or old, beautiful or ugly, smart or not, and if she has that spark in her eyes, I'm all-in, no brakes.
    I haven't seen this with ESIs yet. This is obviously a trick of evolution to force me to have different partners to mix up the genes more. I find ESIs to be less exciting than LSIs, but they have more of what I want, overall. It takes me longer to get with an ESI, but the relationship is more durable. And what I like about ESIs isn't in their technique, but rather is in who they are.

    The best thing about this is that they can't help who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiorale View Post

    City Hunter Korean ver.

    Both leads are SEEs.
    I'm a City Hunter fan. That version is in fact the only K-Drama that I watched in its entirety. I liked it and the music (ost) of that show was really good !

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    Brian Keating, LIE, it seems. Seems to heavy on Ni.
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