Democratic vs Aristocratic
So as a democratic type myself (self type as LIE, some have pointed out I could be ILE and I definitely agree it's possible - 4D Te/4D Ne either way and both are democratic) I am probably more bias to thinking that the democratic approach is "better". I was wondering if any of the aristocratic types on this forum could describe whether the aristocratic attitude has been more of a benefit or a hindrance to you in your life.
Last edited by QueenTiger666; 11-22-2019 at 04:16 PM. Reason: Rewording Post
I’m Aristocratic type and no Democratics are not a hindrance they just approach problem solving differently than I do. It’s good to have a different perspective
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I see, I think I worded my post badly though - what I was meaning was does having the aristocratic preference prove more of a benefit or a hindrance to you?Originally Posted by Beautiful sky
Hinderance in any specific area?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I mean I don't have a specific area in mind, but if you can think of any that you wanna share I'd be glad to read it.
Yes! Here’s one... SEI Friend has a 20 year old son who just got a girlfriend pregnant. She wants him to move out and handle life himself and make whatever decisions he wants while I am the opposite. I would say “you’re my MY (owned you-I don’t know if this is more Fi than aristocratic) so I think you should think about how this will affect your life and if you want she can move in here and we’ll help raise baby.”
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Could you try to describe the difference in problem solving?
I’ll try to find an example
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
This may not be an useful post, but I find the dichotomy useless for describing myself.
Trying to describe myself as Aristocratic over Democratic or vice versa seems like an arbitrary process, because even if I merely divide things into the quick and the dead, I could still be said to be Aristocratic.
Ijs and Eps tend to think that their rationalizations are superior to that of others (aristocratic in appearance); however this also gives them better objectivity so they tend to be less bias about the information they receive. Ejs and Ips seem to like group participation in their rationalization processes (like in brain-storming sessions) so in that sense they do appear democratic; however they often get caught up in the moment and develop biases, which in the extreme, can produce something akin to reactionary or mob mentalities. Down deep, all democrats and aristocrats want things done their way, it's just that some from both groups become more successful at it......
a.k.a. I/O
why do you put "a.k.a. I/O" at the end of every message?Ijs and Eps tend to think that their rationalizations are superior to that of others (aristocratic in appearance); however this also gives them better objectivity so they tend to be less bias about the information they receive. Ejs and Ips seem to like group participation in their rationalization processes (like in brain-storming sessions) so in that sense they do appear democratic; however they often get caught up in the moment and develop biases, which in the extreme, can produce something akin to reactionary or mob mentalities. Down deep, all democrats and aristocrats want things done their way, it's just that some from both groups become more successful at it......
a.k.a. I/O
On the socionics.com site (accessible but no longer active), I was known as I/O but I could not register with that handle on this site. I/O better represents the information processing models to which I subscribe......
a.k.a. I/O
Do you know what signatures are?On the socionics.com site (accessible but no longer active), I was known as I/O but I could not register with that handle on this site. I/O better represents the information processing models to which I subscribe......
a.k.a. I/O
Yes, but they don't seem like signatures; I prefer to make my own mark rather than use pre-stamped envelopes - old school, I guess. I also use a.k.a. rather than aka.....
a.k.a. I/O
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this aged poorly, like ur genitals will in 40 years
How did it age poorly?
cuz ur type ILE now mate. cmon
I allowed room for that in my original post, learn to read.
Ben Franklin wrote of his time as Ambassador in Paris, that in his experience, women's genitals were the only thing that didn't age badly.
Of course, he was writing in a time when 30 was considered to be over the hill and average life expectancy was 35-36.
and then u remember that queentiger has a penis
I don't know to what you are referring????? I thought your comment #21 was also answered by my comment #24. If you're referring to somewhere else, you'll have to point.....
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