Man I don't know if I'm trippin' or what, but I think one of my other threads got merged with this one o.O I have some videos answering typing questions I'm willing to share though I'm pretty settled on IEI. I think what confuses me is I change in different settings, but I think I don't view how I come off quite accurately possibly based on some self-fulfilling prophecy shit as a child. Apparently I come off a lot warmer than I realize.
I'm just going to put it in this thread because my stuff keeps getting merged when i do separate threads lol, but, are there any good resources on significant resources for IEI-Fe vs. IEI-Ni ?
lol you're not wrong like at all. Puppy/dog play is a turn off for me but I can see a SLE hunk being really into it if I scratch behind his ears and tell him what a good boy he is.I know this isn’t the most PC or flattering thing to say, but I think that the skills required to get along with dogs overlap those required to get along with SLE’s. Both live in the real world, both are very immediate, and both crave love and understanding and appreciate faithfulness and loyalty.
I should note, I love all animals, including both cats and dogs, always have, but I was originally a cat person (though I could name many dog breeds). I transitioned to dog ownership after my first sinus surgery and finding out I'm very allergic to cats. I will always have a deep love for cats, but I think dogs are overall better pets, having owned both.
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IEI-Attention-Whore
You know it
There’s something about you— I’ve noticed we have similar interests/tastes in things but I have a feeling that if we had any closer contact we’d clash. That might not be true but I’m usually right when it comes to vibes. I’m gonna lean Delta NF because of that (if I’m EIE then we have similar strengths~).
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
Fair enough! Honestly, I kind of want to be delta. I've been more politically invested recently and I think the way deltas approach things is smart.
I shared some lengthy questionnaire vids and got typed as IEI-Ni with strong Ti, which I tend to agree with. Strong Ti has been brought up A LOT when people spend enough time observing/interacting with me it seems, but I doubt it shows much in how I communicate in these forums, which is often quite lightI definitely value both Ti and Se too, which gave further leverage to IEI, although I will admit I feel I also have fairly strong Si or value it.
And lol, hard to say for certain if we'd get along in person. I'm fairly friendly, but I'm also pretty selective in my friendships
@bouncingoffclouds
Can you pm me a link to the video please?
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Post a pic if you like, VI helps tremendously.GreetingsI've had the hardest time figuring out if I'm EII or IEI. I initially felt the most drawn to IEI, but was convinced of being EII. I have now changed my mind again. I am undoubtedly 4w5 in enneagram and INFP in MBTI. I'm also Sx/So, but very close on those, slight Sx bend. Is there anything that could possibly help me to solidify which type I am?
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I can't take this anymore
And I'm almost pretty sure
I've been here before
Socioville Discord: https://discord.gg/yAfc4ZU
I had some up for a while and removed them. A lot of “Fe creative”, I believe an ILI, “IEI over EII” etc. though in the past I was told I looked like an EII by one soI also had shared a couple videos from the past prior to knowing about Socionics and got more IEI then. Someone said “something else”, but didn’t seem to know what. I did some lengthy videos responding to questionnaires, but there was only one person who responded they would take a look who I felt comfortable sharing with, he said IEI-Ni with strong Ti. I’m actually pretty settled on this based on what I’ve read, but I’m open to the possibility of being wrong. I don’t think it’s something anyone can ever fully know for sure.
To be honest I think typology has somewhat made me lose my sense of self rather than the opposite. Yet here I still am
I move my hands a lot when speaking, I guess mostly with something I’m passionate about or if I’m teaching in a sense. I have recently been lovingly made fun of for it. What function is this an indicator of?
I can't find whatever video there was, but you don't read like IEI. Childlike Ne vibe. I have a hard time seeing provoke/pull/resist/overcome with you.
Is hand gesturing Ne?
Also I mentioned this elsewhere, but I’m confused on my Si and maybe I am misunderstanding it. In the one sense, I feel pretty aware of my body, like when something is wrong and often what is wrong. I also have a pretty good memory. Not necessarily with something like, where I put my keys, but with more important, long-term and the like stuff...or cramming before a test (I am extremely procrastinating and I tend to do well in this mode). On the other hand, I hate spending time “pampering” myself. I see my sister take her time tending to her appearance and physical self-care and to me it’s such a tedious chore. I make myself look decent often (sometimes I’m walking out the door in pj’s and messy af hair though) with some individualistic flairs, but I do it quickly and probably somewhat sloppily lol. I’m not sure if this is connected to Si or what.
I take care of the essentials so I’m not gross, but yeah I am not the type to spend a lot of time in the mirror perfecting myself.
I am open to other interpretations! Socionics has been the hardest typing system to figure out wtf I am. Mbti and enneagram were pretty obvious and consistent pretty fast. Although I can’t say IEI fits like a glove, the more and more I’ve read it seems to fit better than any other type. Though maybe there is a type I am missing, and maybe this is a highly flawed system just like the rest ;p The psychological and personality realm are pretty murky still, much to still be understood and discovered. It’s all in its infancy really
Si has nothing to do with memory. I don't know where that strange claim(?) comes from. Si is inner impressions from the body, inner state, health, from the environment etc.
Perfecting yourself and stuff can be Si creative (in ESE and LSE) or Si demonstrative or something else. When Si is a base function it takes up whole of consciousness and often inhibits the individual by foggy irrational random impressions.I take care of the essentials so I’m not gross, but yeah I am not the type to spend a lot of time in the mirror perfecting myself.
Most important thing is to collect enough experience from relationships and working with people until you figure out the relationships. That's really the only way. Then this becomes clearer. It can go fast or it can take many years.I am open to other interpretations! Socionics has been the hardest typing system to figure out wtf I am.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Didn’t the dude who came up with Socionics marry his dual? Makes me extremely skeptical on that too. Not to mention all the sexist undertones in the old descriptions. When people refer to the old descriptions I’m kind of like, ehhhhh
as far as quadras, when I first read them I felt like I connected most with alpha (which I understand is indeed childlike), least with gamma. However now I think alpha is probably too... uncaring? I am quite different in different realms which is probably part of the confusion also. Which I hear is common for IEI...
I almost want to change this to “what is my type” to open the door to more possibilities. I’m also recovering from a lot, which has made me act quite different from my usual self at times which probably doesn’t help, and I have issues with obsessing and anxiety :/ that’s part of the long-winded posts lol Not sure how that plays in socionics, if at all. I know mental health issues can mask types in mbti for example.
Last thought, I come off pretty extroverted online and with people I like, but am otherwise pretty introverted I think, though I care about people at large and am not one for favoritism. I’m selective of who I spend my own personal time with, but in a group I want everyone to be treated with care and respect, unless they have proven to be extremely harmful (sexism, racism etc.), then I can change my attitude
No hand gesturing is sx/so 8w7
Funny you mentions SLE’s in prison too because I was thinking about how this one guy in the forensic unit at a particular job seemed to exemplify SLE and I actually found him pretty funny and cool. Got put in isolation for being too aggressive though :/
If I stick around it may become more clear, although I think video chat is probably way more likely to yield true results. I actually was part of a video chat community for years, and I mean YEARS, and it’s crazy how different people come off on voice/video vs. text. Usually more like-able too lol. So much gets convoluted in text.
I mean yeah I’m light and the like online especially. The internet has historically been a place I like to hang and have fun, I got enough shit going on in life outside of it. I’m open to interpretations though! I do have some interview videos if you are interested, via direct message. I score highest on IEI on aim to know and such, followed by EII, then I think IEE and SEI. I will tell you I am not the same in all realms though. I will also tell you I am an extreme type 4 in enneagram (by the account of people who know me best as well). Not sure if this helps. My results on Aim to Know are somewhere on this thread. I often get Fe and Ti in my VI via this forum (used to have pics up). Someone watched my videos and noted strong Ni too so I am not sure, I am willing to share the vids
Sure, PM me. I'm no expert & I can't promise I will be able to tell what you are if I haven't encountered your type of IEI before (or whatever you are).
This is basically how I type: best fit to other people I've met + intertype relations especially with me or my identical + sex style / quadra traits + functions and a few of the dichotomies.
FWIW I have had what I think was partial dualization with an IEI. Early on she would channel different quadras, and her judgement & way she interacted with me would get contaminated by whoever she had been around that day, like tracking gamma mud into my space. I had to call it out & break her out of that, which she said she appreciated, since it let her settle into her own emotions/identity. I've noticed with IEIs it takes a lot of conversations of me batting down habitual persona smokescreens, before they realize I "get" Ni. So maybe that what this is.
Full disclosure I'm starting to suspect whether I'm too chill to be SLE, but I'm 90% sure I am. I'm in the middle of writing a "What's My Type?" of my own to confirm if SLE e9 is possible and to rule out self-delusion on the chance I'm SLI or LSI. I think socionics is dominated by theorists with Polr & aspirational Se, so the FORCE stuff gets hammered.
Yeah I heard someone else say that about Si too, not connected to memory. It probably comes from the association with MBTI
I am actually older, and have a ton of relationship experience to base off. Do you have any good resources that could help.
I know I undervalue Te. Te is a weak point and I tend to sort of drift through life. I do what I have to to survive and I do well academically based on... something else, something that makes me able to do shit last minute well, but I’ve had 20 jobs (I left them all). Trying to fit into modern society/work realm is miserable for me
@bouncingoffclouds, I watched your videos again and while you do seem IEI to me, you also have some echos of ILE.
Please bear in mind that I generally suck at typing, because my entire approach is based on previous correlations, rather than on strict definitions.
Ugh I replied to you on my phone, but it logged me out. Is ILE ENTp? I wanted to mention relating to Aylen discussing “underdog syndrome”. While I don’t have these sympathies with someone like Donald Trump, I do with a lot of people in the world and actually had an epiphany when I was 17 sitting on a bus that I wanted to look out/be kind to the underdog. It may be part of why I work in behavioral health.
Yes, ILE is pretty close to the Myers-Briggs definition of ENTp. Call it the same.
Your sympathy for the underdog serves you well in dealing with SLE's, whose one-dimensional Fi and two-dimensional Fe cause them to not read people very well, or understand people's motives very well. (I have a similar problem.) And since they are Se-dom's who tend to act instinctively and immediately, this can cause them to be repeatedly hurt when they break things (and relationships) without knowing why. And this can make them overly cautious.
A lot of SLE's get broken by this process, like a dog with an inconstant master. (A lot of SLE's are in prison.) This causes them to usually work at a lower potential than they are otherwise capable of doing, because who wants to hurt people?
This is where the IEI with her Ni comes in. IEI's are advisors to and diplomats for the SLE kings. Or so the story goes.
If you want to interact with an SLE, let him take you on new adventures while chasing you, physically. You, in turn, can advise him on when to act and how to act. Weirdly enough, an SLE who will punch the lights out of the toughest guys will listen to IEI's. Maybe with some mocking, maybe not. Because IEI's and SLE's have the levers connected which actually operate on the other's gearboxes.
Maybe this # 9 dude will listen to me then
Are there any good threads that show VI's for all of the types?
You smell like IEI to me. Random, irrational posting behavior. Can send video pls
^does that turn you on?
Yes it does now send urs to me
send urss to me
I dont have videos only nudes
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Nobody "Ok"s my nudes now leave the room
I wasn't going to say it here since I wanted to respond to your pm at some point after I had collected my thoughts on your type but since you are already considering it, I will say I also thought you were IEE after watching the videos a couple days ago and by reading your posts. I thought the anxiety you have could be a pretty relevant reason to see yourself as introverted too. I do not struggle with anxiety in the way you do so I can't say for sure.
I also didn't want you to think I was throwing you out of beta. I am not a gatekeeper like that. I like you and wouldn't mind sharing a base function with you. I just don't think we do. Your perception looks more expansive, and bouncy, to me than my own. I tend to narrow things down. Ne valuing seems more likely for you. SEI is an interesting suggestion but I think you are an NF. I have been observing your posts and the way you express things is interesting to me. In text you do bring high energy to the forum which gives some information on how your mind works. It is also what the forum kind of needs right now.
The initial j vibe I had went away when I saw your new longer vid. I know you did it while tired. That showed. I was tired when I watched it.IME, IEE is the delta type that can fit into most groups easily, even the "merry" quadras, if they want to and be liked by many. ILE don't have this quality. No offense to them.
Writing this made me think of Raver (RIP) and how he could mix it up with all quadras so easily. He was pretty introverted, by his own account, compared to other IEE. I once thought he was EII-Fi because of it. Anyway, one of my long time close friends is an IEE and she is pretty amazing. We don't talk much anymore. I kind of miss her. I should check her fb or something. If she says it is ok I will pm you some pics or videos of her for comparison. I guess just try it on for awhile to see how it fits. You can always change your mind if it doesn't. Although some would see that as an indicator of Ne too. lol
Since you are an adult your cognition is probably set in enough to find your type in socionics. I still suggest reading Jung too. Maybe that will help. I wouldn't rule out EII-Ne either.
This link is good for making Jungian functions easier to understand:
http://www.cgjungpage.org/learn/reso...logy#Contents2
Excerpts from:Feeling is often confused with emotion -- in fact, Jung himself sometimes talks of the two together almost as if they were the same thing, but when he does make it clear he says explicitly that any function can lead over into emotion, and the emotion itself is not the function. Neither is feeling a kind of muddled thinking, as the thinking type is inclined to believe; it is the function by which values are weighed, accepted, or refused.
Jung speaks of both 'feeling judgements' and 'feeling situations'; the realm of feeling includes the two, but in the latter case one is nearer the emotional end of the scale, though the valuing element enters in too. In a 'feeling situation' one values, i.e. judges the atmosphere and behaves accordingly. Women are usually adept at this, but there are also men who are feeling types. They function best in situations where personal relationships are important; intermediaries of every sort from diplomats to salesmen need to have well-developed feeling.
Feeling and thinking are inimical to each other. ' In science where thinking is the main function ... the lowest microbe has to be granted the same concentration as the sun.' 12 But feeling disapproves of this, and insists on the difference in their values being recognized.
Feeling is a rational function; one does not normally feel that a thing is valuable one moment and worthless the next; feeling types have an ordered scheme of things, a hierarchy of values to which they hold, and a strong sense of history and tradition. It is a discriminating function, and where there is little or no feeling you find -- as in an extreme example of extraverted thinking -- a tremendous accumulation of facts, some of value and others completely worthless.
Feeling is specially concerned with human relationships, and with the value (or lack of value) of people, and their modes of behavior towards one another. It is not surprising, therefore, that it is an important element in many religions, and especially in both Christianity and Buddhism.
When feeling has priority over the other functions, one can speak of a feeling type, and when the type is extraverted, feeling will be governed by and adjusted to the environment; this type is more often found among women than among men.
The extraverted feeling type is well adjusted to the world, valuing on the whole what is generally valued and finding no difficulty in fitting in with her time and milieu. This is particularly noticeable when she marries, for she always chooses such an eminently suitable husband that one might well think she had planned it all, but in fact she falls in love quite genuinely with the 'right' kind of man.
She is specially concerned with personal relationships and has often tact and charm, smoothing awkward situations and pouring oil on troubled waters; and it is she who makes social and family life possible. She is naturally a good hostess, and is thoroughly at home in groups, large gatherings, and every social and communal activity. The feeling type who becomes aware of unhappiness or injustice has usually a real desire to help, and a great deal of excellent social work is based on this function. At best she is sympathetic, helpful, and charming; at worst superficial and insincere. So long as her feeling remains personal it is genuine, but if it is pushed to extremes it becomes unrelated and artificial, losing its original human warmth, and giving an impression of pose and unreliability.
Introverted feeling is governed by subjective factors, and the type is outwardly very different from the warm, friendly extravert, often giving an impression of coldness; but the feeling, in reality gathers intensity with its lack of expression, and one may truly say of this type that 'still waters run deep'. Whilst appearing reserved, they have usually much sympathy for and understanding of intimate friends, or anyone suffering in need. In a woman of this type feeling often flows secretly into her children; she is not demonstrative, but has all the same a passionate love that will become apparent if the child is seriously ill, or if she is separated from it in some way. Introverted feeling also expresses itself in religion, in poetry and music, and occasionally in fantastic self-sacrifice.
The introverted feeling type is inadaptable. He or she is disconcertingly genuine, and if ever forced to play a role, is likely to fall to pieces, for this reason being sometimes described as schizoid. But in intimate circles to which they are attached by strong emotional ties their value is well known, and they make constant and reliable friends.
What Jung means by feeling is often misunderstood; there is no doubt what he means by sensation: it is that which reaches us through the senses. As sense-perception sensation is (dependent upon the object causing the sensation, and also upon the recipient. In the former case -- i.e. where the emphasis is on the object -- the sensation is said to be extraverted. When sensation has priority, instead of merely seconding another function, we can speak of a sensation type. In this type no objective sensation is excluded; in other types, especially the intuitive, much that is sensed scarcely reaches consciousness; intuitives, for instance, often forget they have a body -- they feel they could almost fly.
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The opposite function to sensation is intuition, though, like sensation, it is an irrational function. 'Intuition,' says Jung, 'is a perception of realities which are not known to consciousness, and which goes via the unconscious.' It is more, however, than a mere perception, for it is an active creative process which seizes upon the situation and tries to alter it according to its vision. It has the capacity to inspire, and in every 'hopelessly blocked situation [it] works automatically towards the issue which no other function could discover.' 13 Whenever a judgment or a diagnosis has to be made in the dark intuition comes into play. Scientists and physicians, inventors, certain classes of business men and politicians, judges and generals all must make use of this faculty at times, and of course ordinary people as well.
Wherever you have to deal with strange conditions where you have not established values or established concepts, there you will depend upon that faculty of intuition.14
The extraverted intuitive type lives mainly through this faculty of intuition; the important things are all possibilities. He or she dislikes intensely anything that is familiar, safe, or well-established. He is no respecter of custom, and is often ruthless about other people's feelings or convictions when he is hot on the scent of something new; everything is sacrificed for the future. Neither religion nor law is sacrosanct, so that he often looks like a ruthless adventurer; but he has in fact his own morality based on loyalty to his intuitive view. For him not to 'take a chance' is simply cowardly or weak.
The danger to this type of man is that he sows but never reaps. He squanders his life in possibilities while others enjoy the fruits of his energy and enterprise. It is almost impossible for him to carry a thing through to the end, or at least beyond the point where its success is established. Naturally his personal relationships are very weak; he finds it difficult to stick to one woman, and home soon becomes a prison. On the other hand, as the wife of such a man once said, life with him is never dull.
The extraverted intuitive is concerned with what is commonly known as the world of reality; the introverted intuitive is concerned with the collective unconscious, the dark background of' experience -- all that is subjective, strange, and unusual to the extravert.
The peculiar nature of introverted intuition, when given the priority ... produces a peculiar type of man, viz. the mystical dreamer and seer on the one hand, or the fantastical crank and artist on the other. The latter might be regarded as the normal case, since there is a general tendency of this type to confine himself to the perceptive character of intuition. As a rule, the intuitive stops at perception; perception is his principal problem, and -- in the case of a productive artist -- the shaping of perception. But the crank contents himself with the intuition by which he himself is shaped and determined.15
This is the type that sees visions, has revelations of a religious or cosmic nature, prophetic dreams, or weird fantasies, all of which are as real to him as God and the Devil were to medieval man. Such people seem very peculiar today, almost mad, as in fact they are, unless they can find a way to relate their experiences with life. This means finding an adequate form of expression, something collectively sanctioned, not just a living out of fantasies. They can sometimes do this by finding, or even forming a group where their vision is of some value. In primitive communities these people have value and command respect -- they are of the stuff from which the prophets of Israel were fashioned -- but except as mystics in religious communities there is little place for them in the world of to-day. Usually they keep quiet about their experiences, or form esoteric sects or little groups concerned with 'other world experience'. Ordinarily they seem rather odd, and quite harmless, but if gripped by their inner vision they may become possessed by a force which is powerful for good or evil, and is highly contagious: both religious conversion and mob violence start in this way.
As a rule, the intuitive contents himself with perception, and if he happens to be a creative artist, with the shaping of perception; he will paint 'in iridescent confusion, embracing both the significant and banal, the lovely and the grotesque'. William Blake is a good example of an introverted intuitive who was both artist and poet.
Since human nature is by no means simple, one rarely finds the absolutely pure type; often the main function is sufficiently clear to club the person a thinker, an intuitive and so on, but it is seconded by another function which modifies and blurs the picture. Jung in fact refers to his description of types as 'somewhat Galtonesque family portraits', for human nature refuses to be classified in a precise and simple way. All the same, the concept of types has great practical value as an aid to understanding in personal relationships and in education. It is of help to husbands and wives to realize that their partner 'works' in a different way and is not simply being obtuse, to teachers to realize that an introverted child, for instance, is not unhappy or unadapted if it does not join in activities with the same zest as extraverted pupils, and to the psychotherapist in treating his patient. It is very common among neurotic people to have developed one function to such perfection that the others are perforce neglected; intuitives, for instance, usually neglect sensation, and consequently their own bodies, so that they may become physically ill; thinking types neglect feeling and so get into serious trouble where personal relationships are important. Mental (and sometimes therefore physical) health depends on the development of the neglected function, so that the personality may become more nearly whole.
Most people use one function (or its modification), more and a very highly complicated people use two functions, differentiated personality would make use of three functions. The inclusion of the fourth function belongs to what Jung has called the individuation process, and the reconciliation of the opposing trends of one's nature; but to understand what is meant by this we must first consider Jung's concepts of the personal and collective unconscious in more detail.
An Introduction to Jung's Psychology
by Frieda Fordham © Frieda Fordham 1953, 1959, 1966.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Thank you so much Aylen. It seems like the timing on all of this happened pretty perfectly. I had just read something on IEE-Ne yesterday when looking over romantic patterns that really struck me. I also read your post on Ni yesterday and i was like, woah, lol. I couldn't fully relate. There are aspects I feel I can relate to in the sense of time, but I've gotta admit, all the signs pointing to Ne are pretty strong, and many people have pointed this out. The signs were there, in the more I was reading, and I don't know why I kept passing by IEE, but I agree on not completely ruling out EII either. I have a lot of research to do and I still have to read the Jungian function part of your post. IEE definitely fits more than SEI, there is a lot about IEE that is ringing a lot of bells to tell you the truth. Combine the scattered way of the ILE with the more diplomatic way of the IEE, bingo. Going through the actual functions in their positions was a trip and also showed me that reading the functions and learning the system will make someone figure out their type wayyyyyy more than reading mere type descriptions. I should have done this sooner with IEE, but I'm doing it now. I like you mentioning the "bounciness" when you consider my username : )
I too, thought of Raver. I didn't even know him, but when I saw the post about his loss and saw he was a raver, saw his type, which I didn't know much about, but I do know plenty about ENFP in MBTI and my sister was probably one too (although I'm not sure what she was in Socionics, but I'll figure it out... we did have a ton in common), anyway it touched me. I've run across some of his posts and even his avatar, I know I would have liked him and it pains me that you guys lost such a cool dude. For some reason discovering I may very well be an IEE made a lot of thoughts and connections run through my head and I truly did think of him. That may sound crazy. I lost a friend of sorts in a community I was a part of for a very long time as well, as well as ofc my sister and another cool friend. All of these people were very, very good people and they all died of similar causes... so although I did not know Raver, I had a sense of what the loss might be like for many here. I'm very sorry. I can only say that the spirit of the person does live on and in the case of my sister especially, I carry many aspects of her spirit with me and have used it in my work with helping others. The combination of my sister's loss and my time working in behavioral health (which actually started weirdly right after her passing), has done wonders on my own development and understanding of people. I still have a ton to develop within myself though of course, a ton, and a lot to improve upon.
I do relate to the deltra quadra more than the alpha quadra I believe as well. My dad is a powerful beta type and he was very influential throughout my life, but even he constantly tells me how I more and more seem so much like my mom, in mannerisms and everything, who I know is a delta. I have been able to be friends with people who are even different from myself politically and I feel like, given some immense shifts in my life, my brain chemistry, my body, my habits etc. that happened recently, and due to influence of others, I convinced myself I was more beta like. The past days though I've been seeing myself shift back to how I was before the sort of storm. I've tended to care what others think, and during my storm (which did have a lot of positive within it) I went into a wild FUCK WHAT EVERYONE THINKS mode lol. One person pointed out how much more aggressive I was acting than normal and asked me what was up. He has known me quite some time and said, "I've never seen you like this" It was relieving in a sense to not care, but in another sense I started to feel this sick feeling, like this was not myself. I didn't like being so intense although I'm not really saying this is beta behavior either. I had some hateful lashouts where although I was right on things, was just, a bit too much and left me feeling winded in the end. Anyway, I could go on with what was going on, others things I noticed, have reflected on now, and other things I was trying to do, and some of it is actually pretty good... I made good things happen, but in a fucked up way lol. I'll stop here.
Thanks for all your help and kind words. Thank to everyone in helping get me typed. I have a lot of research to do. I'm convinced I'm an Ne type and I do agree the back and forth on my type is an indicator of it lol.
I wasn't going to say it here since I wanted to respond to your pm at some point after I had collected my thoughts on your type but since you are already considering it, I will say I also thought you were IEE after watching the videos a couple days ago and by reading your posts. I thought the anxiety you have could be a pretty relevant reason to see yourself as introverted too. I do not struggle with anxiety in the way you do so I can't say for sure.
I also didn't want you to think I was throwing you out of beta. I am not a gatekeeper like that. I like you and wouldn't mind sharing a base function with you. I just don't think we do. Your perception looks more expansive, and bouncy, to me than my own. I tend to narrow things down. Ne valuing seems more likely for you. SEI is an interesting suggestion but I think you are an NF. I have been observing your posts and the way you express things is interesting to me. In text you do bring high energy to the forum which gives some information on how your mind works. It is also what the forum kind of needs right now.
The initial j vibe I had went away when I saw your new longer vid. I know you did it while tired. That showed. I was tired when I watched it.
Writing this made me think of Raver (RIP) and how he could mix it up with all quadras so easily. He was pretty introverted, by his own account, compared to other IEE. I once thought he was EII-Fi because of it. Anyway, one of my long time close friends is an IEE and she is pretty amazing. We don't talk much anymore. I kind of miss her. I should check her fb or something. If she says it is ok I will pm you some pics or videos of her for comparison. I guess just try it on for awhile to see how it fits. You can always change your mind if it doesn't. Although some would see that as an indicator of Ne too. lol
Since you are an adult your cognition is probably set in enough to find your type in socionics. I still suggest reading Jung too. Maybe that will help. I wouldn't rule out EII-Ne either.
This link is good for making Jungian functions easier to understand:
http://www.cgjungpage.org/learn/reso...logy#Contents2
Excerpts from:
An Introduction to Jung's Psychology
by Frieda Fordham © Frieda Fordham 1953, 1959, 1966.
pff i didnt even see them >:<
Is that an invitation
Lol, okay I think I can send to @sbbds i actually want to ask that soundofconfusion dude, something tells me he's some sort of master typist. am i wrong?
also I found the VI stuff, lol this scares me https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...4&d=1505425481
thing is i look pretty diff in a lot of pictures so idk. i could see ile and lii so far. many i could wipe off the board, iei works too...still have a few to get through
everyone have the match <50% so look for each other as not good
I disagree even how he types himself
I'd look at your videos, where you have no glasses
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