Hunter S Thompson

[717495]

Also I would point at Hunter's attitude towards people in general as evidence of his being a logical type. He has a very obvious need for people,for love and admiration and being seen as unique in a way (4 fix probably), and was very warm and affectionate, and yet he seems to be the type of person who was always distant in some way, never truly accessible, even to the people closest to him. To me this is pretty much typical anti-Fi.

Um have you read Jung's Fi description?

Which ESIs would you offer as examples?

I think he comes off a lot like Johnny Depp who I type ESI, or like one of my best friends who's Se-ESI, but most of these seem have the same quality http://gallery.socionix.com/Gamma/Se-ISFj/

[Absurd]

or like one of my best friends who's Se-ESI, but anyone from this list is a pretty decent comparison to Gamma IJ.

I recall you having a lot of LSI and ESI friends.

[717495]

I have one LSI best friend, but also have an LSE best friend.

[Absurd]

I have one LSI best friend, but also have an LSE best friend.

Ahh, that's great.

[Slacker]

ROFL I was going to say either the same type or the dual of everyone who posts in this thread. But really I don't know, maybe Beta.

[Park]

Is it my turn now?

You're next in line for ganbang, so yes.

[Absurd]

You're next in line for ganbang, so yes.

SEE.

[Gilly]

anyway, i think it seems to come down to how we interpret socionics and ..stuff, heh. gilly, i hope you'll change your mind about hunter once you retype yourself (obviously baited comment )

You think I'm anxious to have him as my mirror?

I have had people actually say similar things about me that have been said of HST's personality, though I won't lay claim to all of his magnificence.

[Gilly]

I don't really relate to his philosophy so much as his lifestyle and manner of self-expression.

[Lotus]

for me he's one of those rare kinds of people, where i can't decide whether i want to be him, or have sex with him. i was introduced to him by Ashton i think, who i don't think i was paYing anY attention to at the time because i didn't reallY care who this old dude in a Youtube video was. but i ended up reading him later on bY some coincidence. mY dad's a huge fan and gave me a bunch of his favorite books.

he can totallY be mY identical. he's one of those writers i read with a highlighter in hand. i agree with Se-XSI too. whichever side of the se/ni fence i'm on though, i'm bringing him with me

[Gilly]

@gilly: ya, but his life *is* his philosophy...no? anyway...

Well, yeah, at least the part of his philosophy that matters. He was too much of a hippie for me though.

[Lotus]

therumdiary.jpg

he was so hot.

[Creepy-female]

I read Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas when I was in highschool and had no idea what drugs were. I didn't really understand what was going on or what the book was about. I still don't think it would make sense to me because the only drug I've done is pot.

The feel of the book was reminiscent of American Gods.

I went to a party once with a guy whose favorite book was Fear And Loathing. He was a world wise street urchin who was hungry for something that didn't exist. All of the people there were grasping at something just out of their reach. I had thought we were hitting it off at first but in reality I was probably creating something that wasn't there because I was so lonely.

I got high and danced with myself because the other party goers were focused on getting drunk and fucked up. I kept dancing and trying to have conversations with people which didn't work very well. People would occasionally shoot me a strange look or query him as if to say "where did you get her".

He had to go out and smoke a cigarette in the bitter cold literally every 5 minutes. Eventually he proceeded to get high out of his mind. I would tug at his sleeve or turn towards him to try to connect. His eyes were black and empty and he seemed to ignore me entirely. He eventually went into the other room without a word.

I searched for a clean patch of floor and curled up in the corner till my high subsided. He walked me to my car at 4 am and I went to hug him and sort of elbowed him instead. He never called.

[munenori2]

Why is Johnny Depp always Hunter S Thompson?!

[717495]

They're like the same person :\

[Gilly]

They're really not.

[Gilly]

Damn girl. You need to find real people.

[Gilly]

American Gods.

Pretty similar stuff IMO.

But yeah, unfortunately for the world HST was an out of control hedonist, and I think a lot of his real message got buried beneath that image, which people with nothing to live for pick at like lonely vultures. Little do they know they might see past the drugs if they would read the words.

[Gilly]

PS dolphin please publish, for the good of the world. Stuff just like this. Freaking awesome.

[ashlesha]

se-lsi

[strrrng]

overall the evidence points to Se-ESI. for one, his writing style is very erratic and stream-of-consciousness-esque, replete with disparate anecdotes, associations and impressions. this IMO is indicative of result > process. LSIs tend to be more systematic and methodical thinkers (Se-subs slightly less so but nonetheless). read someone like heidegger and you'll see that a specific topology is being mapped out, step-by-step, it's as if an entire portion of reality is being honed in upon; whereas with hst themes and ideas are expressed as situational relevance dictates, there's no ideological undertones or broader cohesion, really. I can't say much about positivist/negativist, other than that he doesn't consolidate ideas in the way that positivists do.

another thing is Fe-devaluing. there's nothing especially sensational about him in an emotional sense, he's more direct and deadpan, not really seeking attention or 'playing the game' in the way Fe-valuers do. LSIs are especially aware of the 'rules' and how to methodically go about expressing things to receive 'bursts' of Fe that sustain continuity and point them in the right direction; hst is more emotively contained and independent, expressing the substance of his views without any additional flair or loft. this is especially relevant given that he was likely sx/so (sx primary regardless), which is where you get most of the extremism and the sense that he's on some kind of quest in his escapades. I think the poetic, dramatic tinge redolent of betas is missing here, he's much more ruggedly individualistic and extreme in a kind of comical, exploratory and somewhat understated way. he also has the dry awkwardness that you get with a lot of Fi-valuers who don't give a fuck about getting attention or putting on a show.

lastly, he's not an aristocratic type. there's no code or sense of propriety detectable in his behavior and works, it's more like he just takes things as they come and moves on; he'll relate ideational and thematic undertones, but in a much more tangible and viscerally accessible way, it's kind of like he's isolating fragments that are part of a larger process and attempting to elucidate the unspoken internalities of the situation in as simplistic and understated a manner as possible. there's never any broader (socio-political) appeals or explicitly defined context (i.e. camus explicating a collectively-oriented position on suicide, or kierkegaard relegating people based on styles of sin), things just occur, in all their moral and ideational import, and pass. this is especially relevant given that he was immersed in the political realm, you can kind of see how all his beliefs and attitudes were shaped by Fi principles and values, there's no added emotional indulgence (i.e. how he offhandedly talked about nixon's mendacity, expressing a definite sentiment, but without any ideological or intellectual emphasis). overall he's just a bit too thematically exploratory and open-ended in his energy for beta. his extreme and outlandish elements are easily explained by him being a p-sub Se/Ni type and sx-primary, especially considering the casual and glib way they're often expressed.

enneagram-wise I would say 6w7-4w5-8w7... and sx/so.

[suedehead]

Bump.

[silke]

ESI sx/so works. I remember reviewing his writing for the Result/Process trait and it checked out as Result, which eliminated any ILI, EIE, or LSI typings for him.

[yeves]

Dalai Lama's undisclosed twin

[Park]

LOL

[suedehead]

[Amber]

looks very Se IJ possibly E9

[aixelsyd]

https://youtu.be/NHeSC_Ws5Ic

I think LSI

[kinderlich]

Hold in mind...he is Entp and you will realize... he is! . (Ummm this is how beta Quadra does things U guess with Ni and then check with your rational fncs...we are really effective! #preensbrightly. And the types without Ni ...think we are #crazypants .)

[khcs]

Hunter S. Thompson

[kinderlich]

I feel bad for Johnny Depp (IEE) because he kind of got stuck permanently in the role of playing Hunter Thompson.

[kinderlich]

I like his books because the way they sound.

[khcs]

Hunter S Thompson

[Aramas]

Hunter S. Thompson

Saw this pic on Google. Screams IEE to me, especially the eyes. Compare the eyes of people like Ghislaine Maxwell, Tyler Weinman, and Aleister Crowley.

[khcs]

Hunter S Thompson - ENFP Huxley ???

[Aramas]

@khcs IEE is often termed "the reporter" right? And that's what he was too. I think I read that on Socionics.com.

[Djangr]

SLE