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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Some of us are interested in politics.
    They just are a fruitless idea and hopeless aim, and they defeat the purpose in which they try fulfill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    They just are a fruitless idea and hopeless aim, and they defeat the purpose in which they try fulfill.
    Even if that was true, some of us still want to talk about it. Not everyone is apolitical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    Even if that was true, some of us still want to talk about it. Not everyone is apolitical.
    Yeah, but if the things the politics teach are untrue, why engage them? I suppose because it is more comfortable for the human who to go with what it has known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    Yeah, but if the things the politics teach are untrue, why engage them? I suppose because it is more comfortable for the human who to go with what it has known.
    No one is forcing you to participate in this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    No one is forcing you to participate in this conversation.
    I am not saying they are, I just do not understand why people like politics, and am curious. I have asd and sometimes do not word things best, so I probably sounded harsh without meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    I am not saying they are, I just do not understand why people like politics, and am curious. I have asd and sometimes do not word things best, so I probably sounded harsh without meaning.
    Politicians wield a lot of power. Some of us see that and think it’s interesting to talk about. Some of us don’t.

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    (Asd is autism spectrum disorder if people do not know)..
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    So it’s the idea of having an authoritative figure, or maybe people just see since politics are not to do away any soon, they need side with the “lesser evil”..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    So it’s the idea of having an authoritative figure, or maybe people just see since politics are not to do away any soon, they need side with the “lesser evil”..
    Well yes, people will think "He may have murdered a bunch of people and enacted restrictive suffocating laws, but golly gee look at this other guy who is blatantly evil!!! at least our guy pretends to actually care about this topic!!!" I'm exaggerating but people's standards are low.

    I don't think too many people seriously think anarchy will work. Almost everyone thinks we need some leader, but people could at least have higher friggen standards for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    So it’s the idea of having an authoritative figure, or maybe people just see since politics are not to do away any soon, they need side with the “lesser evil”..
    It's a combination of factors. One is that, counterintuitively, people get so worked up about national politics because it makes so little difference to the lives of average middle-class voters. Yeah, maybe this candidate wants to raise taxes more than this guy, but realistically, your taxes or your expenses are gonna go up almost year after year and your quality of life's gonna continue to decline no matter who gets elected. And because it doesn't make too much difference either way, you can afford to become ideological; it also provides a vent for your frustrations; you can attribute your discomfort to the other side, and believe that if only your guys held complete power, they'd fix everything (remember when Obama won the presidency and the Democrats controlled Congress, and the only thing they did was to subsidize the health insurance industry?).

    Another reason is that people are susceptible to propaganda (tautology -- if they weren't, it wouldn't exist). People who vote Democrat tend to be more educated and therefore more susceptible to propaganda, which seems now to be of the type of "if you're a good person/antiracist, you'll vote for us and support these policies." This tends to arrest people's brains, especially people who are really kind-hearted, and also especially narcissists or people who take pride in being smarter or morally better than others. Republicans incidentally are less unified and have even less of a coherent agenda than Democrats, so unless they're particularly pro-life or pro-gun, people vote Republican less because they support anything specific but because of hatred and distrust of Democrats, in part due to recognizing Dem hypocrisy, and in part due to conflating Democrats with various sorts of people -- the "elite"/wealthy, urbanites, pedophiles, communists, foreigners, or atheists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    Yeah, but if the things the politics teach are untrue, why engage them? I suppose because it is more comfortable for the human who to go with what it has known.
    I guess some people find it cathartic to rant about the way politics are. Personally I find it to be a massive waste of time, brain space, and add the fact that your mental health will not get better. I believe nothing in this country will truly change without a revolution and massive changes. My vote matters so little in the long run if we look at the big picture.

    I became apolitical after constantly having the news and politics pushed in my face. It's nauseating.

    The things our political system teaches:

    Division of people into left and right where both start giant fights that lead nowhere and make it hard to reach any decisions.
    Vote for the lesser evil even if it is not all that much better.
    Don't focus on the interconnected global politics and how real politics is too complicated for the average person to understand, here is a simplified version of the facts.
    Ignore history and don't think about all the ways the system oppresses people, just go "well at least it isn't so and so" or "this world is cruel and that is how it will always be".
    Ignore the fact that the system obviously finds way to withhold certain information from the public.
    @Karanime I would love to believe anarchy is feasible in the real world but it won't happen. All we can do is try to make things a little less terrible for humanity.

    It's silly but one day I want to sing songs of hope and soul for the people, just to make things seem less awful and mundane. I will then end my singing career and move on to writing books, quite possibly continuing the same themes but in more depth. Then I will take all the excess money and use it to help others directly.

    I'm not hating on people who want to discuss the reality of human existence. We shouldn't turn our heads away from these matters and just become ignorant and act like everything is fine with the world. We just shouldn't let the political system consume us and twist our sense of self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    I guess some people find it cathartic to rant about the way politics are. Personally I find it to be a massive waste of time, brain space, and add the fact that your mental health will not get better. I believe nothing in this country will truly change without a revolution and massive changes. My vote matters so little in the long run if we look at the big picture.

    I became apolitical after constantly having the news and politics pushed in my face. It's nauseating.

    The things our political system teaches:

    Division of people into left and right where both start giant fights that lead nowhere and make it hard to reach any decisions.
    Vote for the lesser evil even if it is not all that much better.
    Don't focus on the interconnected global politics and how real politics is too complicated for the average person to understand, here is a simplified version of the facts.
    Ignore history and don't think about all the ways the system oppresses people, just go "well at least it isn't so and so" or "this world is cruel and that is how it will always be".
    Ignore the fact that the system obviously finds way to withhold certain information from the public.
    @Karanime I would love to believe anarchy is feasible in the real world but it won't happen. All we can do is try to make things a little less terrible for humanity.

    It's silly but one day I want to sing songs of hope and soul for the people, just to make things seem less awful and mundane. I will then end my singing career and move on to writing books, quite possibly continuing the same themes but in more depth. Then I will take all the excess money and use it to help others directly.

    I'm not hating on people who want to discuss the reality of human existence. We shouldn't turn our heads away from these matters and just become ignorant and act like everything is fine with the world. We just shouldn't let the political system consume us and twist our sense of self.
    I am glad you see political harm. And I realize an anarchy never can lead successful unless civilization is small and moment it enlarges, it is destined fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karanime View Post
    I am glad you see political harm. And I realize an anarchy never can lead successful unless civilization is small and moment it enlarges, it is destined fail.
    Yeah and trying to get people to stick into smaller groups is hard when mass unity of people has brought so much advancement to civilization and health, although it has brought global warming down upon us.

    The best thing to do is not to become a naive optimist and say everything is fine and will be fine, nor become a naive pessimist and say everything is sht and will stay sht but to be bittersweet and to see the bad side of things but have hope and believe in things getting better for everyone. At least attempting to make things a little better for someone is better than not even trying. Even if you only gave one person joy, you still did more than some person who didn't care at all. At least one person will feel inspired and happy from your writings, and maybe be inspired himself to try to make things better.

    I hope you can manage to make your dreams of becoming a writer true. It will change something, one thing I am sure of it.

    If even a small spark can start a flame....

    Ah but some people think I'm crazy so what do I know?

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    I just don’t understand why people find them such an appeal, other than maybe it is what they have gone with their whole life and thus have its familiarity and comfort. And feel a sense of purpose belonging with it. I am a generation Z.. It seems older people are more valuing of politics. They have less do and feel belonging, and they have known such way longer and thus have harder time in a letting go.
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