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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    What's Se to you, how do you think it would manifest in the context of these videos? I could of course have talked about what I actually do daily instead of the technical background. Such as making decisions and choices, tasking people with things to do and making sure they get done to move the project forward. The goal of the videos was however the Ti/Fe expressiveness thing and not the other functions.
    In as far as that goal is concerned imo it was sucessful. Fi role and Fe suggestive seems to fit considering you don't know any of us and consequently are more restrained than with peole you actually know and are comfortable with.

    From the videos however I can't get a sense of your Se. I have a hard time imagining you taking on an organizational role, putting people to work and making sure they do their job for example, being forceful and applying pressure on people if need be. (this is something I don't like doing for example)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    In as far as that goal is concerned imo it was sucessful. Fi role and Fe suggestive seems to fit considering you don't know any of us and consequently are more restrained than with peole you actually know and are comfortable with.

    From the videos however I can't get a sense of your Se. I have a hard time imagining you taking on an organizational role, putting people to work and making sure they do their job for example, being forceful and applying pressure on people if need be. (this is something I don't like doing for example)
    Okay, the problem lies with your imagination then, since that's what I actually do daily and get paid for. I don't posture needlessly like a kid that has something to prove, that is ridiculous and you're probably looking for a caricature. I'm an adult (38) that knows how to be civil and friendly, especially as that is our culture. I just increase the forcefulness gradually as necessary.

    I enjoy and have naturally taken informal or formal leadership roles of small groups, from military service to every real job I've had. Being CEO doesn't interest me that much, but I like having a small team of competent people who I direct. I believe in the "speak softly but carry a big stick" ideology, preferring a diplomatic approach first but following up with force if it doesn't work. This surprises people sometimes since I'm deceptively nice at first but that is only on the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Okay, the problem lies with your imagination then, since that's what I actually do daily and get paid for. I don't posture needlessly like a kid that has something to prove, that is ridiculous and you're probably looking for a caricature. I'm an adult (38) that knows how to be civil and friendly, especially as that is our culture. I just increase the forcefulness gradually as necessary. I enjoy and have naturally taken informal or formal leadership roles of small groups, from military service to every real job I've had. Being CEO doesn't interest me that much, but I like having a small team of competent people who I direct.
    I believe in the "speak softly but carry a big stick" ideology, preferring a diplomatic approach first but following up with force if it doesn't work.
    Alright, now we are getting somewhere. Look, I get payed to do plenty of things I don't enjoy doing. For me what you do for a living does not necesserily mean its in line with your personality. If it were for me I would probably never allow anyone to determine how and what I have to do regarding anything period. I hate giving orders and respond with hostility to pressure, orders or any need to obey rules i deem as irrelevant.

    In terms of temperamnt from the video alone EP and EJ are out of the question. IJ and IP likely. Feeling elements aren't very good, which means Super-ego/id range at best. That narrows it down to logical introvert. From the video alone its clear you aren't intuitive, intuitives display associative thinking, you don't. We'll throw ILI and LII out the window now.

    Down to SLI vs LSI. Considering what you wrote joust now, but more specifically how you responded to my posts I think LSI is clear. SLI wouldn't enjoy being in charge due to Se demonstrative. The fact that you enjoy your work and can actually be assertive (it comes through in how you responded) is proof enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    In as far as that goal is concerned imo it was sucessful. Fi role and Fe suggestive seems to fit considering you don't know any of us and consequently are more restrained than with peole you actually know and are comfortable with.

    From the videos however I can't get a sense of your Se. I have a hard time imagining you taking on an organizational role, putting people to work and making sure they do their job for example, being forceful and applying pressure on people if need be. (this is something I don't like doing for example)
    He’s sitting and talking. Do you think Se leads are incapable of doing that? Like do they have to be punching people and flexing every second to be Se egos or something?

    Do you think applying pressure on people means punching and yelling at them until they get into single file lineups? Lol

    Do Si egos need to be masturbating and twiddling their nipples to ASMR videos every second?

    Also, I constructive’d your prior post accidentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    He’s sitting and talking. Do you think Se leads are incapable of doing that? Like do they have to be punching people and flexing every second to be Se egos or something?

    Do you think applying pressure on people means punching and yelling at them until they get into single file lineups? Lol

    Do Si egos need to be masturbating and twiddling their nipples to ASMR videos every second?

    Also, I constructive’d your prior post accidentally.
    Se egos are pushy annoying competitive people, such as little bears who are into BDSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Se egos are pushy annoying competitive people, such as little bears who are into BDSM.
    Lol. I am not that pushy, I’d say. I like being annoying sometimes but I wouldn’t think I’m perceived that way usually. And I don’t like either competition or BDSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Lol. I am not that pushy, I’d say. I like being annoying sometimes but I wouldn’t think I’m perceived that way usually. And I don’t like either competition or BDSM.
    It was a joke lol. Anyway, my image of SLE specifically (because Se types are different): Tyler1 . I can't think of a better example than that guy. Sterotypical SLE: Tyler1. Sure some of it is for the show, but the one thing he can't fake is his competitive nature and desire to win, to be on top, along with how he shits on people he considers inferior (Fi PolR), how he just takes over any group of people. Demanding, direct, impulsive and acts despite low information. he might be an extreme example, but I have known a handful of people in my own life who fit the same mold. They are rather common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    It was a joke lol. Anyway, my image of SLE specifically (because Se types are different): Tyler1 . I can't think of a better example than that guy. Sterotypical SLE: Tyler1. Sure some of it is for the show, but the one thing he can't fake is his competitive nature and desire to win, to be on top, along with how he shits on people he considers inferior (Fi PolR), how he just takes over any group of people. Demanding, direct, impulsive and acts despite low information. he might be an extreme example, but I have known a handful of people in my own life who fit the same mold. They are rather common.
    I see. By your definitions I’m ISTx too then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    It was a joke lol. Anyway, my image of SLE specifically (because Se types are different): Tyler1 . I can't think of a better example than that guy. Sterotypical SLE: Tyler1.
    Most so called "introverted" Se people are just maniac SLE's.

    Eh, look at Putin. LSI and many others look like that but they can still do combat apparently. OK, creative Se is pretty darn weird. Looks like they are doing ASMR smackdowns.
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